Guest StrahansGap Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Should the Giants fire this guys ass or what? I wouldn't even put him in charge of strength & conditioning of a cheerleading squad. Too many fucking injuries in the last few years. This years injuries alone have been so devastating, that someone has to start receiving some blame. Obviously, something is seriously wrong. I say we fire his ass!!!!!!!!!! Someone has to be held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Pulled hammies and stuff of those sorts, yeah, its conditiong. But how in the world does one plan against injuries like Sintims and TTs??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Pulled hammies and stuff of those sorts, yeah, its conditiong. But how in the world does one plan against injuries like Sintims and TTs??? By not blitzing TT with 20 seconds on the clock before hafltime in a meaningless preseason game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 By not blitzing TT with 20 seconds on the clock before hafltime in a meaningless preseason game... So, this thread should be titled....."Perry Fewell", or "Tom Coughlin"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeMesiS Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I think its time to fire the QB coach. Mike Sullivan... All the QB look unprepare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 So, this thread should be titled....."Perry Fewell", or "Tom Coughlin"? True. I think both are mediocre at best coaches, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 True. I think both are mediocre at best coaches, anyway. You think TC is mediocre?? I think he's a great coach. Fewell isnt great by any means, but Id slate him SLIGHTLY above average.....SLIGHTLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 You think TC is mediocre?? I think he's a great coach. Fewell isnt great by any means, but Id slate him SLIGHTLY above average.....SLIGHTLY. I greatly dislike Tom Coughlin and think we could have done a lot more than we did with the teams we've had since 2007. I'm one of the few that doesn't blame Plaxico Burress for that meltdown of an 08 campaign. He's poor at game management, stubborn and reluctant to make changes to his coaching staff (there is absolutely no reason our special teams coach should have a job in the NFL)----which is my biggest gripe, and he's unwilling to change with the modern game of football...even if just SLIGHTLY. I would consider both Fewell and Coughlin VERY slightly above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I greatly dislike Tom Coughlin and think we could have done a lot more than we did with the teams we've had since 2007. I'm one of the few that doesn't blame Plaxico Burress for that meltdown of an 08 campaign. He's poor at game management, stubborn and reluctant to make changes to his coaching staff (there is absolutely no reason our special teams coach should have a job in the NFL)----which is my biggest gripe, and he's unwilling to change with the modern game of football...even if just SLIGHTLY. I would consider both Fewell and Coughlin VERY slightly above average. Coughlin is an excellent example of competent mediocrity but he is a stabilizing influence.......the problem is the game planning and in game non-adjustments now that Eli is calling a lot of ahudibles......he has to take some of the blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Coughlin is an excellent example of competent mediocrity but he is a stabilizing influence.......the problem is the game planning and in game non-adjustments now that Eli is calling a lot of ahudibles......he has to take some of the blame Yeah, exactly. The game planning and failure to make adjustments is the reason we lose to teams with the better coaches like Green Bay, Philly, etc. Talent-wise, we match up well against them but they seem to continuously have our number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I greatly dislike Tom Coughlin and think we could have done a lot more than we did with the teams we've had since 2007. I'm one of the few that doesn't blame Plaxico Burress for that meltdown of an 08 campaign. He's poor at game management, stubborn and reluctant to make changes to his coaching staff (there is absolutely no reason our special teams coach should have a job in the NFL)----which is my biggest gripe, and he's unwilling to change with the modern game of football...even if just SLIGHTLY. I would consider both Fewell and Coughlin VERY slightly above average. I dont blame Plax for the meltdown. To me it was not a meltdown, but a key component we were used to having suddenly dissapeared. And I think the egirls knew how to expose that. And I do think it was that one game, because we still beat a very good Carolina team w/o Plax. But you do have a point, not having Plax, a coach should have been able to adjust. Or was it to soon to make the necessary adjustments? Thats what I cant figure out. To me, TC is a type of coach that if you buy into his strict ways, you'll be great. Problem is we have too many diva players nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I dont blame Plax for the meltdown. To me it was not a meltdown, but a key component we were used to having suddenly dissapeared. And I think the egirls knew how to expose that. And I do think it was that one game, because we still beat a very good Carolina team w/o Plax. But you do have a point, not having Plax, a coach should have been able to adjust. Or was it to soon to make the necessary adjustments? Thats what I cant figure out. To me, TC is a type of coach that if you buy into his strict ways, you'll be great. Problem is we have too many diva players nowadays. I think that's partly where my gripe lies with Coughlin. He's from the old school. There's nothing wrong with that at all. But you have to have some ability to adapt and change. And while ya, it seems like he's lightened up a bit with his rules and his treatment of the players, his coaching style doesn't mesh with the modern NFL player, like you said. You still hear from former Giants saying how he was virtually unapproachable and impossible to hold a conversation with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StrahansGap Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I greatly dislike Tom Coughlin and think we could have done a lot more than we did with the teams we've had since 2007. I'm one of the few that doesn't blame Plaxico Burress for that meltdown of an 08 campaign. He's poor at game management, stubborn and reluctant to make changes to his coaching staff (there is absolutely no reason our special teams coach should have a job in the NFL)----which is my biggest gripe, and he's unwilling to change with the modern game of football...even if just SLIGHTLY. I would consider both Fewell and Coughlin VERY slightly above average. I honestly think that we would've won that super bowl if Barney Fife was the coach. Nobody was going to beat us that year. Not the 85 Bears, not the cowboys of the 90's. NOBODY!!!! That said, plax ruined everything in 08'. Stupid motherfucka shot himself. The reason for this thread? I wish palmieri would shoot himself!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I think that's partly where my gripe lies with Coughlin. He's from the old school. There's nothing wrong with that at all. But you have to have some ability to adapt and change. And while ya, it seems like he's lightened up a bit with his rules and his treatment of the players, his coaching style doesn't mesh with the modern NFL player, like you said. You still hear from former Giants saying how he was virtually unapproachable and impossible to hold a conversation with. True, times change, so I guess people need to as well. It makes it even more confusing that he has been this way, but the players believed enough to win a SB. I dont know, maybe its just me. Win a SB and Im behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 True, times change, so I guess people need to as well. It makes it even more confusing that he has been this way, but the players believed enough to win a SB. I dont know, maybe its just me. Win a SB and Im behind you. Well, a lot of people look at the 07 season and since Coughlin "won" the Super Bowl (I'd argue that without Spagnuolo, we weren't winning jack shit that year) argue that he should get off lightly and get a pass when we have shitty seasons. Reality check. That Super Bowl was nearly 5 seasons ago. You don't get complacent because you won one Super Bowl during a decade. Coughlin deserved a lot of blame for last season. He deserved a lot of blame for 08. He deserves a lot of blame for not being able to win playoff games other than 2007. But instead, he got a contract extension. I can only hope that if the team underachieves again this season (like the last several seasons) he will finally get the criticism that's been lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well, a lot of people look at the 07 season and since Coughlin "won" the Super Bowl (I'd argue that without Spagnuolo, we weren't winning jack shit that year) argue that he should get off lightly and get a pass when we have shitty seasons. Reality check. That Super Bowl was nearly 5 seasons ago. You don't get complacent because you won one Super Bowl during a decade. Coughlin deserved a lot of blame for last season. He deserved a lot of blame for 08. He deserves a lot of blame for not being able to win playoff games other than 2007. But instead, he got a contract extension. I can only hope that if the team underachieves again this season (like the last several seasons) he will finally get the criticism that's been lacking. Although I am a homer that lives with Blue colored glasses on, I still agree with this. I love TC for that SB, but like you said, I dont wanna get complacent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I'm highly disappointed in this thread. I thought I would have been enlightened by Nas on the benefits of Yoga by this point in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I'm highly disappointed in this thread. I thought I would have been enlightened by Nas on the benefits of Yoga by this point in the thread. Nas will get back to you after his Jazzercise class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I'm highly disappointed in this thread. I thought I would have been enlightened by Nas on the benefits of Yoga by this point in the thread. Fuck yoga. Real men do ballet. But seriously, I had some back problems that I don't think I could have licked without yoga techniques. We joke about that shit, but it really works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Fuck yoga. Real men do ballet. Hellz yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StrahansGap Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Another big injury from goff. Thanks palmieri. Way to keep your players from getting injured. Dipshit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Another big injury from goff. Thanks palmieri. Way to keep your players from getting injured. Dipshit.... Can't blame him for ACL tears, that's an impact/twisting injury, not a conditioning issue. You can't strengthen a tendon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 no more practice!!! only group positive thinking sessions!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgutmartyr Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 How do you blame a strength and conditioning coach for injuries in a year when there was no strength and conditioning program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStroud Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Fuck yoga. Real men do ballet. But seriously, I had some back problems that I don't think I could have licked without yoga techniques. We joke about that shit, but it really works. my daughter does ballet let me tell you its grueling, and the strength and flexibility it gives you is only paralleled by gymnastics If these guys were qualified in ballet they would not be having these injuries it appears girly but its tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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