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The Giants with Lawrence Taylor didn't even go 19 -0, now Chase Blackburn is going to do it? <img src="http://www.sportswrath.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" />

 

 

I'm high on Blackburn as a solid punishing MLBer. He's no LT, but then LT could not have played in the middle at his size......not to mention his imptatience.

MLBer can not just bull rush all the time. I have to laugh when people criticize Blackburn for his play at OLBer......that's NOT his game. When he''s played MLBer for us we have been ROCK solid.

 

Having said that, add LT as an Outside LBer to THIS team and 19-0 would be a strong 50/50 proposition.

 

The 2009 NY Giants are loaded with talent, dripping with it......most of it proven talent. How many teams would even CONSIDER cutting a David Tyree? ask yourself that question.

 

Its a shame we did not draft Rothlingsberger and then bag Shawn Merriman.........Merriman is the best pass rushing OLBer since LT.......Merriman is a freak of nature just like LT was.

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July 30, 2009

Pierce testifies as threat of charges looms

 

Antonio Pierce has arrived at the courthouse in Manhattan to give his testimony to the grand jury investigating the Plaxico Burress shooting. But he’s not there just to testify as a witness against Burress. He’s also there to testify for himself.

 

It’s an important distinction, from what I’m told, because Pierce is testifying voluntarily, as a potential defendant (and thanks to Melissa Grace of the Daily News for filling me in on the details and for being all over this case from the start). He had to waive his right to immunity before his testimony began, and as you know the Manhattan District Attorney has informed Pierce’s lawyer that the linebacker could be facing criminal charges.

 

From what I’ve heard, the threat of those charges is very real and he could be charged and possibly indicted by early next week. I believe the charge would be the same one facing Burress — possession of a loaded and unlicensed weapon in Manhattan — though we won’t know for sure until the charges are announced. If it’s the same charge, it carries a mandatory minimum of 3 1/2 years in prison (and a maximum of 15 years).

 

(One detail I’m a little unclear on is how a grand jury could be considering an indictment of Pierce when he hasn’t officially been charged yet, but I’m hoping to have that cleared up at some point today).

 

While there’s no way to predict exactly when the grand jury will announce its decision on indictments, or when the DA will (or will not) announce any charges against Pierce, I’ve been told that it’s possible either decision could come before the end of this week. More likely, though, we’ll know the fate of both Burress and Pierce by early next week.

 

Pierce and the rest of the Giants are scheduled to report to training camp at the University at Albany on Sunday. The first team practice is scheduled for Monday morning.

 

Obviously if Pierce is charged and/or indicted, a lot of questions will be raised about his availability this season. A lot might depend on court and trial dates — and as we’ve seen with Burress’ case, those can be purposely delayed for many months. Also, as I reported a few days ago, the NFL is eyeing Pierce’s situation and he could be punished for violating the Personal Conduct Policy. Commissioner Roger Goodell has the power to fine or suspend a player even without a conviction (or even charges), and since he hasn’t ruled on the Burress case yet it’s still unclear if he’s willing to let a player play while he’s awaiting trial and facing a possible long prison term.

 

To speculate on what Goodell will decide to do, or what could happen to Pierce and when it could happen would be jumping the gun, of course (no pun intended). All we know for sure is that a few weeks ago there appeared to be no reason to worry about Pierce’s status. Now it looks like everything has changed.

 

Either Pierce or his lawyer, Michael Bachner, is expected to make a short statement to reporters after he testifies today. For that and all the details on today’s events, keep checking the Daily News’ continuing coverage right here.

 

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/07/pierce-testifies-as-threat-of.html

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I dont know what everyones problem is on this board. Maybe most Giants fans are idiots, I didnt wanna beleive it. Blackburn has done nothing but be productive and everytime his name gets brought up everyone here doesnt wanna hear it. Your a bunch of fools. Im not saying we go 19-0 with him starting. But to just not give credit where credit is due is stupid. Fuck shit up this year Blackburn.

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I dont know what everyones problem is on this board. Maybe most Giants fans are idiots, I didnt wanna beleive it. Blackburn has done nothing but be productive and everytime his name gets brought up everyone here doesnt wanna hear it. Your a bunch of fools. Im not saying we go 19-0 with him starting. But to just not give credit where credit is due is stupid. Fuck shit up this year Blackburn.

 

He's no Brian Urlacher. You're fooling yourself. Meanwhile, I would like to see Pierce's declining ass on the bench...just, not for Chase Blackburn.

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I am an idiot. I don't see the point in replacing a heady, tenacious MLB with limited athletic ability, with a heady, tenacious MLB with limited athletic ability. That doesn't mean I don't like Blackburn; just that I like him where he is, and don't think he's an upgrade to Pierce.

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I am an idiot. I don't see the point in replacing a heady, tenacious MLB with limited athletic ability, with a heady, tenacious MLB with limited athletic ability. That doesn't mean I don't like Blackburn; just that I like him where he is, and don't think he's an upgrade to Pierce.

 

 

Well this is living proof of your idiocy

 

replacing an old beer bellied duffus with a criminal charge staring him in the face with a young 245 lb 6 foot 4 impact tackler and blitzer who has proven there is no drop off when he has played makes perfect sense to most people

 

I would not play Pierce in a sandlot game of Rikers Island Vs Sing Sing

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Well this is living proof of your idiocy

 

replacing an old beer bellied duffus with a criminal charge staring him in the face with a young 245 lb 6 foot 4 impact tackler and blitzer who has proven there is no drop off when he has played makes perfect sense to most people

 

I would not play Pierce in a sandlot game of Rikers Island Vs Sing Sing

 

Of course, Jack. I don't even think cheerleaders will improve the team. I must be insane.

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NY Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce finishes testifying in Plaxico Burress gun possession case

by Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger

Friday July 31, 2009, 12:55 PM

 

Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce, shown entering court on Thursday, finished his testimony on Friday in front of a grand jury in the Plaxico Burress gun possession case.

 

NEW YORK -- Antonio Pierce entered a Manhattan court room at 10 a.m. Friday and spent almost two hours in front of a grand jury, fielding questions from jurors and the prosecution about his role in the Plaxico Burress case.

 

The grand jury will now decide whether to indict Pierce on the same gun-possession charges Burress is facing.

 

"Mr. Pierce's testimony was clear, coherent and consistent," his lawyer, Michael Bachner, told reporters as the Giants' middle linebacker, wearing a black suit, white shirt and no tie, stood behind him. "The grand jurors paid very careful attention. They had a lot of questions for him, which I think demonstrates the responsibility they know they have in this case.

 

"And we are extremely confident that they are going to come down with the conclusion that we've been saying for many many months -- that Mr. Pierce acted responsibly, intelligently and as any responsible citizen would have acted under similar circumstances. And we're confident that there will be a no bill and we hope the grand jury will reach the same conclusion."

 

Pierce did not address reporters. Bachner fielded only a few questions, one of which was why he was so confident there will be a "no bill" in his client's case.

 

"We're confident of that because we're confident the facts support the proposition that Mr. Pierce acted as any civilian in a similar circumstance would have acted," Bachner replied. "It's easy to go backward and try to retrace steps, but Mr. Pierce acted under a stressful situation to save what he thought was the life of a teammate. And it's really clear once all the testimony came out that no one could have acted any differently."

 

Unlike Burress, Pierce didn't ask the jury for compassion.

 

"Mr. Pierce did not ask for sympathy," Bachner said. "Mr. Pierce asked that the grand jury weigh the facts because the facts are sufficient to demonstrate that Mr. Pierce committed no impropriety."

 

Bachner said he's uncertain if Pierce was the last witness to testify and said a timeline on a decision will be determined by jury deliberations. Decisions on Burress and Pierce could come on Monday.

 

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/07/ny_giants_linebacker_antonio_p_2.html

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Burress will get 2 years, he'll be out in 6 months, Pierce will get nothing, but will get a one game suspension from Goodell

 

 

You think so? I don't think Goodell does anything in regard to Pierce, especially if the grand jury doesn't seem fit to even indict him. I don't see how Pierce's actions violated the law OR the NFL's personal conduct policy. If Goodell were to suspend Pierce even for one game, I think there will be uproar in the NFLPA.

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You think so? I don't think Goodell does anything in regard to Pierce, especially if the grand jury doesn't seem fit to even indict him. I don't see how Pierce's actions violated the law OR the NFL's personal conduct policy. If Goodell were to suspend Pierce even for one game, I think there will be uproar in the NFLPA.

 

Pierce took a gun which was evidence in a felony and transported it over state lines

 

He's going to jail. the DA's office is looking for 3.5 years for both Plaxico and Pierce

 

They announced that already

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Pierce took a gun which was evidence in a felony and transported it over state lines

 

He's going to jail. the DA's office is looking for 3.5 years for both Plaxico and Pierce

 

They announced that already

 

 

I think your man crush for Blackburn is clouding your judgement. Pierce is not going to jail. My guess is that the Grand Jury doesn't indict him. And even if the DA does, he won't spend a day in jail, because no judge or jury will convict him. Watch and see. Key thing here is that it wasn't his gun. He did not bring it out that night. Plaxico is responsible for what happened. Pierce drove him to the hospital like a reasonable person would and then took his gun home. I don't blame him, I wouldn't want to keep that in my vehicle for long. His actions were reasonable and understandable under the dire and difficult circumstances.

 

DA is just threatening him to get him to testify against Burress. The DA doesn't want Pierce, he wants Plaxico.

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I think your man crush for Blackburn is clouding your judgement. Pierce is not going to jail. My guess is that the Grand Jury doesn't indict him. And even if the DA does, he won't spend a day in jail, because no judge or jury will convict him. Watch and see. Key thing here is that it wasn't his gun. He did not bring it out that night. Plaxico is responsible for what happened. Pierce drove him to the hospital like a reasonable person would and then took his gun home. I don't blame him, I wouldn't want to keep that in my vehicle for long. His actions were reasonable and understandable under the dire and difficult circumstances.

 

DA is just threatening him to get him to testify against Burress. The DA doesn't want Pierce, he wants Plaxico.

 

I dont think the DA negotiates deals on TV........Air Horn was accessory to a felony crime.......he'll do some time

 

Burress 3 yrs

Air Horn 6 months

 

they dont execute in NY but they take the gun law dead serious as a counterbalance

 

PS- testify to what? are you suggesting the case against burress needs any more witnesses or evidence LOL

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You think so? I don't think Goodell does anything in regard to Pierce, especially if the grand jury doesn't seem fit to even indict him. I don't see how Pierce's actions violated the law OR the NFL's personal conduct policy. If Goodell were to suspend Pierce even for one game, I think there will be uproar in the NFLPA.

he was there...and did admittingly take the gun...I am just saying if anything does happen to him it will come from Goodell as a one game suspension

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I dont think the DA negotiates deals on TV........Air Horn was accessory to a felony crime.......he'll do some time

 

Burress 3 yrs

Air Horn 6 months

 

they dont execute in NY but they take the gun law dead serious as a counterbalance

 

PS- testify to what? are you suggesting the case against burress needs any more witnesses or evidence LOL

 

I don't do man crushes

 

My goal is to convince the Giants to play the best personnel possible

 

I never heard Chase speak, and know little about the guy other than like Tyree he makes things happen on the field

I also like his size, speed, nastiness, and hard hitting ways at MLBer (not so much at OLB)

 

I like my coaches on the sidelines and up in the booth- NOT on the field

 

Pierce is a physical weakling.....as for his field coaching, opposing QBs often quick count when Pierce is trying to re-position other players rather than pay attention to his own positioning and game- causing our linemen to be back on their heels when they should be set

 

The sad part is the Giants are now rallying around Air Horn due to his gun toting stupidity....not looking at what a terrible issue he has become at MLBer

This guy is the teflon Don getting yet another pass for non performance reasons....the coach on the field talk makes me want to vomit

Their is no fall off- quite the contrary when Blackburn is our "coach on the field"

 

Enough- get rid of this loud mouthed weak hitting, late hitting, no coverage liability

 

My opinion, and I'm entitled to one

 

As a matter of fact I've had about enough of General Coughlin too.....hes not inspirational enough for my taste

 

I doubt anyone wants to run though a brick wall after a Coughlin halftime speech

 

As a further matter of fact I'd like to see the Tisch's buy out the Mara's altogether and get us a cheering squad for the new building next year :o )

 

I want the Giants to build a dynasty for the ages- 4-5 SBs in a row.....it wont happen if players are kept on the field for sentimental reasons......and our players have no eye candy to try to impress

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I think your man crush for Blackburn is clouding your judgement. Pierce is not going to jail. My guess is that the Grand Jury doesn't indict him. And even if the DA does, he won't spend a day in jail, because no judge or jury will convict him. Watch and see. Key thing here is that it wasn't his gun. He did not bring it out that night. Plaxico is responsible for what happened. Pierce drove him to the hospital like a reasonable person would and then took his gun home. I don't blame him, I wouldn't want to keep that in my vehicle for long. His actions were reasonable and understandable under the dire and difficult circumstances.

 

DA is just threatening him to get him to testify against Burress. The DA doesn't want Pierce, he wants Plaxico.

 

 

You were saying Jack?

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