BurnThePhilFans Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Eli aka "Cool as ice" - 17 fourth quarter comebacks for wins. I basically expect him to win games for us now when he gets the ball down by a score with 3 minutes to go in the game. That is when he is at his best. Elway's record is 40. Eli has 17 in 4 seaons as a full starter. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Honestly, I'm kinda surprised this doesn't get mentioned more. Since his rookie year he's had a knack for coming from behind in pressure situations and winning games late. Any hate aside, I'd be interested in seeing Eli's 4rh quarter comebacks compared to Ben's and other young QB'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnThePhilFans Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 Honestly, I'm kinda surprised this doesn't get mentioned more. Since his rookie year he's had a knack for coming from behind in pressure situations and winning games late. Any hate aside, I'd be interested in seeing Eli's 4rh quarter comebacks compared to Ben's and other young QB'. I believe Ben has either the same amount as Eli or 1 more... BUT that is in 5 full seasons as a starter compared to Eli's 4. I don't get why announcers mention that every time Ben falls behind they talk about his comebacks but Eli is right there with him and it hardly gets mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I believe Ben has either the same amount as Eli or 1 more... BUT that is in 5 full seasons as a starter compared to Eli's 4. I don't get why announcers mention that every time Ben falls behind they talk about his comebacks but Eli is right there with him and it hardly gets mentioned. Yeah, as i said for some reason Eli isn't mentioned when they talk about modern come from behind QB's. And in reality, trying to be unbiased, when the chips are down and you need a QB to drive down the field with time running out, you'd be hard pressed to find a more reliable QB to lean on. That really is his niche, calm cool and relaxed, quick pace, process the info fast and get the score. For all his faults people like to come up with, when it time to win a game, I'm glad we have Eli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Eli aka "Cool as ice" - 17 fourth quarter comebacks for wins. I basically expect him to win games for us now when he gets the ball down by a score with 3 minutes to go in the game. That is when he is at his best. Elway's record is 40. Eli has 17 in 4 seaons as a full starter. Thoughts? God, I hope not- my heart couldn't take 40 of those. I'd much prefer him to break Joe Montana's record of 4 super bowl wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 God, I hope not- my heart couldn't take 40 of those. Thats very true as well. It's much better to have the game locked up in the 4th and rely on the D. 40 super bowl 42's? yeah, that'd be hard on the pump station. BUT, it's nice to know it's there when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifoefum Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 And how many times did he lead the offense to a game tying, or lead changing score, only to have the defense give it back and lose the game? It happened a few times in his first couple seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 And how many times did he lead the offense to a game tying, or lead changing score, only to have the defense give it back and lose the game? It happened a few times in his first couple seasons. Party Pooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 damn, 17? i know he's got a knack for it but i didn't realize he had that many already--and half of elway's record? that shit's getting shattered before eli turns 32--take that to the money, blood and sperm bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jranieli Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Honestly, I'm kinda surprised this doesn't get mentioned more. Since his rookie year he's had a knack for coming from behind in pressure situations and winning games late. Any hate aside, I'd be interested in seeing Eli's 4rh quarter comebacks compared to Ben's and other young QB'. Remember his first win against the Cowboys? I have had issues with Eli after that but that was the first game I realized that he has the potential to lead this team. He looked very simular to his brother on that drive by reading blitzes. Just like what he does now I would love to see that stat. I never compare Eli to Big Ben because I think in a way they are very similar QB's and will always have that 4th Qtr comeback in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Remember his first win against the Cowboys? I have had issues with Eli after that but that was the first game I realized that he has the potential to lead this team. He looked very simular to his brother on that drive by reading blitzes. Just like what he does now I would love to see that stat. I never compare Eli to Big Ben because I think in a way they are very similar QB's and will always have that 4th Qtr comeback in them. Yeah, thats the game he audibled to Tiki for the game winning score. He played well in the Steelers game that year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksm7 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Eli aka "Cool as ice" - 17 fourth quarter comebacks for wins. I basically expect him to win games for us now when he gets the ball down by a score with 3 minutes to go in the game. That is when he is at his best. Elway's record is 40. Eli has 17 in 4 seaons as a full starter. Thoughts? actually, the dog is pretty sure elway is credited with 47 fourth quarter comebacks, but that is neither here nor there...just out of curiosity, where did you get the manning number from? the dog thought as of the bears game last year, he had 7 fourth quarter comebacks to his credit, which means he has had 10 in his last 18 wins, which seems high, but certainly possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Yeah, as i said for some reason Eli isn't mentioned when they talk about modern come from behind QB's. And in reality, trying to be unbiased, when the chips are down and you need a QB to drive down the field with time running out, you'd be hard pressed to find a more reliable QB to lean on. That really is his niche, calm cool and relaxed, quick pace, process the info fast and get the score. For all his faults people like to come up with, when it time to win a game, I'm glad we have Eli. The call him Easy E. And as much as his over-calmness makes me nervous... I no longer worry about time ticking. The pinacle was that last drive in the Super Bowl. I stood the entire time... in the same spot.. staring at the TV.. speechless.. emotionless.. just knowing something great is about to happen. And when Plax caught the ball in the end zone.. I remained speechless.. emotionless... because I wasn't surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesta Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 actually, the dog is pretty sure elway is credited with 47 fourth quarter comebacks, but that is neither here nor there...just out of curiosity, where did you get the manning number from? the dog thought as of the bears game last year, he had 7 fourth quarter comebacks to his credit, which means he has had 10 in his last 18 wins, which seems high, but certainly possible... For once, I have to agree with the dog. I can only count 15. That's including Buffalo where Eli did nothing, and the OT wins vs. Cinci and Carolina. Still, 15 is impressive nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 For once, I have to agree with the dog. I can only count 15. That's including Buffalo where Eli did nothing, and the OT wins vs. Cinci and Carolina. Still, 15 is impressive nonetheless. What is considered a 4th quarter comeback though? Would it still be considered a 4th quarter comeback if he brings the team back and they still lose or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesta Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 What is considered a 4th quarter comeback though? Would it still be considered a 4th quarter comeback if he brings the team back and they still lose or what? If that's the case, I would imagine he has more than 17. but I don't think that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorized56 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I remember reading about this at Vacchiano's blog earlier in the year. It was before the game against Pitt. http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/20...meback-kid.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksm7 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 What is considered a 4th quarter comeback though? Would it still be considered a 4th quarter comeback if he brings the team back and they still lose or what? no - the team has to win as a result, otherwise a number of QBs would have a high amount of 4th quarter comebacks...the dog would guess elway would be much higher...by that rationale, one would credit Romo with two fourth quarter comebacks at the ravens game alone, and they still lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxi-xxv Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 no - the team has to win as a result, otherwise a number of QBs would have a high amount of 4th quarter comebacks...the dog would guess elway would be much higher...by that rationale, one would credit Romo with two fourth quarter comebacks at the ravens game alone, and they still lost... although I agree that no 4th quarter comeback credit is given if a team thus loses. I would think to be considered a 4th quarter comeback you have to at least lead or have the game tied at the end of regulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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