The Brett Favre's last day at Lambeau summary..........

[boohyah]

.......I couldn't think of a better way for it to happen. But more on Brett later.

 

 

Some casinos in Vegas have us as 14.5 point underdogs. They must want to give away money that weekend.

 

Seriously, the Giants have defeated the odds every week so far, and I'm sure we're going to do so again on Feb 2nd.

 

We're hearing all week how tough the Packers were, how cold it was going to be, Eli didn't have any starts on the North pole. And yet when it was all said and done, not only did we control the Packers yesterday, we actually kept them in the game, every which way possible.

 

For all the games he's been lauded for in the last few weeks, I was never more impressed with Eli than I was yesterday, never. In one word, poise. He got hit more in that game than in the others. You gotta give it to him, 21-40 doesn't sound great, but there were so many missed catches and some of those deep passes he made were on the money. It does help that Plaxico was out of his mind, but Eli was in control yesterday. He was focused, the cold wasn't an issue, the game was. Compare him to Favre, who IMO looked completely out of it and looked like he didn't want to be there. As soon as he threw the pass, he put his hands into his warmer. Nothing, no emotion, he never gave his team a lift and in the press conference, went straight into his "I don't know if I'm going to retire or not" spiel. Seriously Packer fans, the guy knows you're up his ass, it's time for him to go.

 

Plaxico couldn't have done much better and made Al Harris look like a chump. Toomer was fine and Smith and Boss showed some rookiness, but overall this receiver corp is making plays and is very confident right now. Plus Eli's throwing into areas where they are subject to getting killed, although Bigby made one hit on Plax, overall these guys are getting passes thrown to them in motion. This is going to be important against the Pats, because Harrison is one dirty fucker, but the Pats Linebackers read plays well and cover better than our guys over the middle. Jacobs went hot and cold again, driving Barnett back 8 yards was impressive, but he did nothing up the middle, unlike Bradshaw, who is simply running hard and hitting the holes much better and he's giving the team their second wind. Our best stretches of the game are when he's in there. You can't say enough about the offensive line right now, they impose their will and seem to be taking it personally to make sure Eli is getting time. Plus they are hodling the pocket and Eli is much more confident stepping into it.

 

The stats on defense aren't impressive, but the only stat that matters is that down the stretch, the Packers kept going 3 and out. They totally took the steam out of them, shut down the run game completely. Thank goodness Ross was back, didn't hear his name called much and that's a good thing. Amazingly, teams keep gong after Webster and they are getting burned, can anyone figure out Webster at this point because I can't ever remember any Giant player turning it around like this. Here's another thing you can't figure, how more discliplined the young players played and how undiscliplined the vets played in the secondary. McQuarters carelessly holds the ball out in front of him and then starts twisting and turning to get extra yards, and loses it. Webster intercepts, gets pulled from behind and then instead of taking a risk, falls to the ground. As for Madison, fuck him, how boneheaded was that. At some stage in your career you gotta say, okay I'm going to stop acting like I think I'm hot shit and just play. 3 weeks ago, I wouldn't be saying this but Webster has played Madison out to be some other teams corner next year. James Butler in coverage is going to be a huge problem for us in the SB, he's terrible.Go figure Gibril, he's playing great since he got back, his offseason is going to be real interesting.

 

Our front line and linebackers seemed to be getting nowhere earlier, but by the end of the game they were killing them. Osi, as the game goes on keeps getting closer and closer to the QB and Strahan was mandhandling the lineman late in the game. Anybody who doesn't think Justin Tuck is the MVP of this team needs to watch him yesterday, the guy is a freak. How scary would this line be right now if Kiwi was playing. Linebackers played well and Pierce's one handed tackle could have been the single best game of the game, outstanding, and I've been down on Pierce because I just expect so much more from him. Spags pressed all the right buttons yesterday and he may just have one more game with us, because it just amplified him even more as a head coach. I think it's a mistake, but I think that it's going to be a mistake that's made after the Superbowl.

 

Special teams weren't so special yesterday. Our coverage was fine, but kicking wasn't. Tynes was having a great day on kickoffs to begin with. Feagles had a so-so day on punts. I also thought that we simply weren't aggressive enough on that fumble of the kickoffs, replays showed one of 2 of our guys slowing up once the ball hit the returners hands. As for Tynes, it was a bad snap, but Feagles couldn't have handled it any better and Tynes should have made it. But as is for Tynes, he simply can't make anything happen, and that's why I can't deal with him. I know kicking is rhythmic, but shit, when the ball was snapped high, Feagles had to make an adjustment, why couldn't Tynes?. I don't care about the 47 yarder and that he made it, well I do, but the feeling about this guy is that he could cost us games like this and yesterday he almost did. As crazy as it sounds, if they cut the guy tomorrow, I'd shed no tears, because I'd hate to be in the Superbowl needing him to kick a field goal to win or tie and have the fate of a team, a team playing out of there skins right now, to rely on him, a guy who has one job to do and needs everything to be perfectly set up for him to be successful..........or not.

 

I mentioned Spags, but Gilbride has been as good in the playoffs, honestly you scratch your head wodering where this has been. If you can call a game like this and have Eli executing it as such, then where has it been. As for Coughlin, I didn't want him here at first, he's not been a great fit, but the overall picture this year is that he's done a good job, and I was genuinely happy for the guy. For all that talk on Spags and now Gilbride, this has been Coughlin's best job ever, and the harmony on the team and the reduction of penalties have shown this.

 

Mark it down, 10.45pm, February 3rd, Superbowl 42 champs.............THE NEW YORK GIANTS.

[Virginia Giant]

Some casinos in Vegas have us as 14.5 point underdogs. They must want to give away money that weekend.

 

 

Not to mention New England has covered only once since thanksgiving.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jacobs kills me man, he starts the game with blowing up harris, and I think he's going to have one of his good games. Next thing you know he is taking it outside and can't get the corner, getting tripped up from behind. Thanks God for Bradshaw, that dude fights for every fucking inch.

[boohyah]

Not to mention New England has covered only once since thanksgiving.

Jacobs kills me man, he starts the game with blowing up harris, and I think he's going to have one of his good games. Next thing you know he is taking it outside and can't get the corner, getting tripped up from behind. Thanks God for Bradshaw, that dude fights for every fucking inch.

 

I know people will think I'm on my Rodney Hampton trip, but Jacobs could look at a few of his tapes and think to himself, "shit, if Rodney does that at 210-220lbs, imagine what I could do at 260".

 

I agree on Bradshaw, he fights, you have to love that.

[Treehugger]

Pierce's one handed tackle could have been the single best game of the game, outstanding

I'm not sure what a 'game of the game' is, but that was one fucking awesome play.

 

Bottom line: Eli outplayed Brett, no doubt. I don't know where this kid wondered off to mid season but it's sure great to have him back.

 

SUPERBOWL BITCHES!

[boohyah]

I'm not sure what a 'game of the game' is, but that was one fucking awesome play.

 

Bottom line: Eli outplayed Brett, no doubt. I don't know where this kid wondered off to mid season but it's sure great to have him back.

 

SUPERBOWL BITCHES!

 

 

Game of the Game makes perfect sense, if you're a retard.

 

So quit discriminating against the retards okay Tree?

[Treehugger]

I've only got one question: When's the replay?

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

The only corner back that turned into a gem that had an up and down first couple of years....was Mark Collins. It took him up until the last couple of games of his 2nd year before he started to grasp the system adn actually know what he was doing out there. But he was never the early big bust that Webster was....but he was the last relevant example. He became a shut down corner.

[Virginia Giant]

I know people will think I'm on my Rodney Hampton trip, but Jacobs could look at a few of his tapes and think to himself, "shit, if Rodney does that at 210-220lbs, imagine what I could do at 260".

 

I agree on Bradshaw, he fights, you have to love that.

Right. I'm not trying to piss of Jacobs, when he's on he's a beast, but he has to put his pads down and go through the line. I know he has speed and wants to break one outside and hammer a D back, but get us 4 yards on first down, second down and then get a first down on 3rd and short. Go through the line, wear them big-ubs in the middle down, thats when you break plays.

 

 

 

 

Everyone of my buddies who has watched the Giants recently keeps telling me they'd rather have Bradshaw, that dude just does not quit. I'd like to see a comparison between him and Jacobs on yards after 1st hit.

[JayD]

Right. I'm not trying to piss of Jacobs, when he's on he's a beast, but he has to put his pads down and go through the line. I know he has speed and wants to break one outside and hammer a D back, but get us 4 yards on first down, second down and then get a first down on 3rd and short. Go through the line, wear them big-ubs in the middle down, thats when you break plays.

Everyone of my buddies who has watched the Giants recently keeps telling me they'd rather have Bradshaw, that dude just does not quit. I'd like to see a comparison between him and Jacobs on yards after 1st hit.

 

 

Bradshaw had a few shots early in the game, and didnt do jack with it. I dont think he's ready to start by any means. Its working out just fine the way we are using him.

[Virginia Giant]

Bradshaw had a few shots early in the game, and didnt do jack with it. I dont think he's ready to start by any means. Its working out just fine the way we are using him.

I'm not at all saying Jacobs should be scrapped or even lose carries, I like how it's working right now too. But i also gotta admit I was happy when Coughlin didn't hesitate to bring in Bradshaw much earlier than usual.

 

 

 

 

The way i look at it, we're not anywhere near where we are minus one either one, BUT, in the playoffs, if I HAD to lose one of the two, looking back, i take Bradshaw. His runningstyle energizes the team, think what jacobs could be like if he fought like Bradshaw fights.

 

 

 

 

And i know this comes off as anti Brandon, it really isn't, i love the guy, look at my sig, but with 2 weeks before the biggest game for us in almost a decade, we gotta have something to nit pick.

[boohyah]

I'm not at all saying Jacobs should be scrapped or even lose carries, I like how it's working right now too. But i also gotta admit I was happy when Coughlin didn't hesitate to bring in Bradshaw much earlier than usual.

The way i look at it, we're not anywhere near where we are minus one either one, BUT, in the playoffs, if I HAD to lose one of the two, looking back, i take Bradshaw. His runningstyle energizes the team, think what jacobs could be like if he fought like Bradshaw fights.

And i know this comes off as anti Brandon, it really isn't, i love the guy, look at my sig, but with 2 weeks before the biggest game for us in almost a decade, we gotta have something to nit pick.

 

 

It's not anti Brandon at all. I think most of us salivate at what he has the potential to do. He's still only a 3rd year back and he's never been fully healthy. But let's face it, when you see what Ward did earlier in the season and Bradshaw is doing now, you have to wonder.

[JayD]

What has Brandon averaged per carry during the playoffs?

[BIGBLUE01]

.......I couldn't think of a better way for it to happen. But more on Brett later.

Some casinos in Vegas have us as 14.5 point underdogs. They must want to give away money that weekend.

 

Seriously, the Giants have defeated the odds every week so far, and I'm sure we're going to do so again on Feb 2nd.

 

We're hearing all week how tough the Packers were, how cold it was going to be, Eli didn't have any starts on the North pole. And yet when it was all said and done, not only did we control the Packers yesterday, we actually kept them in the game, every which way possible.

 

For all the games he's been lauded for in the last few weeks, I was never more impressed with Eli than I was yesterday, never. In one word, poise. He got hit more in that game than in the others. You gotta give it to him, 21-40 doesn't sound great, but there were so many missed catches and some of those deep passes he made were on the money. It does help that Plaxico was out of his mind, but Eli was in control yesterday. He was focused, the cold wasn't an issue, the game was. Compare him to Favre, who IMO looked completely out of it and looked like he didn't want to be there. As soon as he threw the pass, he put his hands into his warmer. Nothing, no emotion, he never gave his team a lift and in the press conference, went straight into his "I don't know if I'm going to retire or not" spiel. Seriously Packer fans, the guy knows you're up his ass, it's time for him to go.

 

Plaxico couldn't have done much better and made Al Harris look like a chump. Toomer was fine and Smith and Boss showed some rookiness, but overall this receiver corp is making plays and is very confident right now. Plus Eli's throwing into areas where they are subject to getting killed, although Bigby made one hit on Plax, overall these guys are getting passes thrown to them in motion. This is going to be important against the Pats, because Harrison is one dirty fucker, but the Pats Linebackers read plays well and cover better than our guys over the middle. Jacobs went hot and cold again, driving Barnett back 8 yards was impressive, but he did nothing up the middle, unlike Bradshaw, who is simply running hard and hitting the holes much better and he's giving the team their second wind. Our best stretches of the game are when he's in there. You can't say enough about the offensive line right now, they impose their will and seem to be taking it personally to make sure Eli is getting time. Plus they are hodling the pocket and Eli is much more confident stepping into it.

 

The stats on defense aren't impressive, but the only stat that matters is that down the stretch, the Packers kept going 3 and out. They totally took the steam out of them, shut down the run game completely. Thank goodness Ross was back, didn't hear his name called much and that's a good thing. Amazingly, teams keep gong after Webster and they are getting burned, can anyone figure out Webster at this point because I can't ever remember any Giant player turning it around like this. Here's another thing you can't figure, how more discliplined the young players played and how undiscliplined the vets played in the secondary. McQuarters carelessly holds the ball out in front of him and then starts twisting and turning to get extra yards, and loses it. Webster intercepts, gets pulled from behind and then instead of taking a risk, falls to the ground. As for Madison, fuck him, how boneheaded was that. At some stage in your career you gotta say, okay I'm going to stop acting like I think I'm hot shit and just play. 3 weeks ago, I wouldn't be saying this but Webster has played Madison out to be some other teams corner next year. James Butler in coverage is going to be a huge problem for us in the SB, he's terrible.Go figure Gibril, he's playing great since he got back, his offseason is going to be real interesting.

 

Our front line and linebackers seemed to be getting nowhere earlier, but by the end of the game they were killing them. Osi, as the game goes on keeps getting closer and closer to the QB and Strahan was mandhandling the lineman late in the game. Anybody who doesn't think Justin Tuck is the MVP of this team needs to watch him yesterday, the guy is a freak. How scary would this line be right now if Kiwi was playing. Linebackers played well and Pierce's one handed tackle could have been the single best game of the game, outstanding, and I've been down on Pierce because I just expect so much more from him. Spags pressed all the right buttons yesterday and he may just have one more game with us, because it just amplified him even more as a head coach. I think it's a mistake, but I think that it's going to be a mistake that's made after the Superbowl.

 

Special teams weren't so special yesterday. Our coverage was fine, but kicking wasn't. Tynes was having a great day on kickoffs to begin with. Feagles had a so-so day on punts. I also thought that we simply weren't aggressive enough on that fumble of the kickoffs, replays showed one of 2 of our guys slowing up once the ball hit the returners hands. As for Tynes, it was a bad snap, but Feagles couldn't have handled it any better and Tynes should have made it. But as is for Tynes, he simply can't make anything happen, and that's why I can't deal with him. I know kicking is rhythmic, but shit, when the ball was snapped high, Feagles had to make an adjustment, why couldn't Tynes?. I don't care about the 47 yarder and that he made it, well I do, but the feeling about this guy is that he could cost us games like this and yesterday he almost did. As crazy as it sounds, if they cut the guy tomorrow, I'd shed no tears, because I'd hate to be in the Superbowl needing him to kick a field goal to win or tie and have the fate of a team, a team playing out of there skins right now, to rely on him, a guy who has one job to do and needs everything to be perfectly set up for him to be successful..........or not.

 

I mentioned Spags, but Gilbride has been as good in the playoffs, honestly you scratch your head wodering where this has been. If you can call a game like this and have Eli executing it as such, then where has it been. As for Coughlin, I didn't want him here at first, he's not been a great fit, but the overall picture this year is that he's done a good job, and I was genuinely happy for the guy. For all that talk on Spags and now Gilbride, this has been Coughlin's best job ever, and the harmony on the team and the reduction of penalties have shown this.

 

Mark it down, 10.45pm, February 2nd, Superbowl 42 champs.............THE NEW YORK GIANTS.

 

Is that when you want us to mark it down? Because the game is on Feb 3rd.

[boohyah]

Is that when you want us to mark it down? Because the game is on Feb 3rd.

 

 

I spoke to Roger Goodell and they've moved the game up to accomodate my mistake.

 

 

Fuck you Blue, I fixed it, OK!!!

[Nesta]

I want Madison gone as well.

Pick up a good corner in fa, draft a lb.

[Virginia Giant]

What has Brandon averaged per carry during the playoffs?

In the three games combined.....

 

 

Jacobs: 48 carries for 155 yards = 3.2 ypc

 

 

Bradshaw: 39 carries for 163 yards = 4.2 ypc