fishgutmartyr

There isn't really that much going on right now in Giant's land. People are just rehashing stuff. Wait until training camp, that's when all the good stuff starts up again.

That's been a tradition in Giant's offensive play-calling since Parcells. I bet you could count the number of times they passed on first down on your fingers for the entire time Parcells was there. The third and short bit has been going on since Fassel.

What a shame. He might have been a very good WR, had that knee worked out. At least he was a 2nd day draft pick.

Oh man, you aren't kidding...

I'll even take him a step or two slower, so long as he teaches Webster and Deloatch some technique.

Our ability to stay healthy--it's crippled us for 3 years running.

I agree. They can't become vets unless they play.

There were so many good plays last season, it was probably the most fun I've had watching the Giants in a decade. I think it was against Kansas City. The catch by Amani Toomer that by all rights he should have been downed, but managed to run it into the endzone anyway. I still don't know how he didn't break his leg on that play, let alone stay upright.

Tell me you're not listing Palmer as a starting quarterback . Besides, wasn't Shockey already out for the season when Collins got injured?

Toomer had more amazing plays this past year than I can recall in any other season. I thought his sternum was "just" bruised, and he had a broken collarbone. No matter, to call any of that a nick is insane.

Same here--It was the first time my dad ever heard me curse! He stopped his 4 minute/4 letter diatibe to tell me to watch my mouth. :lol: There was another game a year or so later against Dallas at home--The defense was putting up a heroic effort, the stadium was rocking, and we were in the lead despite a totally ineffective offense. Staubach pulled off a 2 minute drill, and we lost, and the camera focused on Harry sitting on the bench, despondent. I never felt so much for a player than I did for Harry that day. Craig Morton going to the Superbowl in '78 pissed me off, too. Then it has to be Minn in '97 and SF in 2002. I spent all of 2000 waiting for the other shoe to drop, so I wasn't that upset with the loss.

Burress is our only wide-receiver? But I thought Kerry Collins would make this offense sing with our talent? We're in trouble if Barber gets injured? Hey, if we have multiple injuries on our o-line, we're sunk too. Or the linebackers, defensive line, wide receivers, etc. In other words, no shit. Shockey's broken collar bone last year was one of those "annoying nicks and bruises?" Where are these "glaring holes"? Your quote sites a couple of potential problems as "if" statements, and talks about Barber not getting an injury, which he hasn't had in years. Will we win the NFC East? Too close to hazard a guess, but we're definitely in the hunt.

I disagree. Not because the teams are poor, but because the East is going to beat the crap out of each other. The team that wins the division is going to be the team that manages a sweep of one of the other three teams. Most of the series are going to be splits. I wouldn't be surprised if there are two teams with 10-6 records, with tie-breakers determining the final standings.

If we get through this schedule and get to the championship game, we're not losing. The big if is getting through this schedule without having an entire group of players on IR.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that the coaches liked him last year. If he's improved, he might be useful.

Yeah, that's another way of putting it.

The guy was constantly dinged even before going on eternal IR. It's a shame, because when he was able to stay on the field for more than a play or so, he was actually pretty good. But he's never on the field, so any talent he has is moot.

Lavar Arrington replaces Kendrick Clancy? Huh. Tim Lewis is writing some innovative schemes, that's for sure.

Having your 1st round pick not start his first year because of the pre-existing talent level is hardly a dilemma.

I don't know if you could consider this a bust, but I think that Mario Williams is going to seem like it for a long time. When you think about Houston passing on Reggie Bush and how the Houston fans reacted to that, he is going to have to be outstanding almost immediately in order to get past the circumstances in which he was drafted. That he's a defensive lineman, the liklihood of that happening is going to be very small. I think he's going to be good, maybe even with Houston, but it won't be recognized until he ends up on another team.

I'm not so worried about our depth at linebacker as you should be with your starters...

With the flubbed first surgery, this is really the first time Taylor is coming into camp completely healthy. With all of his nagging injuries last year having to do with his legs, I'd hazard a guess that they were stemming from the surgery last year. That being said, it's "shit or get off the pot" time. I wouldn't look too deep into Carter's contract. I think it was more of an insurance signing in case we didn't pick up Moss. Carter managed to go through last season relatively uninjured (at least for him). Still, he didn't contribute anything of significance, so I wouldn't really consider him a lock for anything.

I was going to ask "How so?" until I realized that you were going to bring up his "even seasons," just like I brought up his "odd seasons." That's really another reason he drove me crazy: he could actually play very well, but the things in which he was bad, he was very bad. Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't be respected for what he did, I just think that the regard that he is held at by some fans is higher than what he actually achieved.

I would have to say Carlos Emmons, until another former eagle joins the roster.

I can understand what you're saying, Gspotter. I'll even agree with you, in that he did flash. But I spent more Sundays frustrated with him than not, and never felt the confidence with the team that I had this past year with him at the helm.