CrazedDogs

can't say that I follow offensive line coaches in the NFL all that closely, so Bricillo or almost anybody other than Stoutland or Munchak wasn't on my radar, but I did notice that the Raiders had a surprisingly competent offensive line. So I'm about as fired up for an assistant coach as I ever am.

This is how Wink left Baltimore too. Just one example of many. Coaches resign all the time, it isn't unusual.

LOL, dude, you shared your opinion right here, in considerable detail. You just didn't like how I framed it. But I definitely wasn't wrong. Nobody with any competitive nature at all would agree with you on this.

lol, but that difference of opinion clearly is that Wink = some average dude in an office done wrong. do we know that? Mutually agreed to part ways doesn't equate to 'fired'. Sounds like there was a settlement.

LOL, no, you asked who cared. A rhetorical question perhaps, but none the less a useless rhetorical question to your point given the folks running the team are obviously going to care. And no, I don't think someone who tries to manipulate opinions via the media necessarily deserves to be fired. It's a valid tactic. Lots of coaches operate that way. In his own way, I'm Daboll does as well. For ex. - the game balls to McKinney, and later to Wink. Parcells was known for it. I don't see that as a 'fire the man' level issue. I see it as a 'get your ass on the same page' level issue. And by the way, a couple aspects of my 'reading between the lines' take on this were off ---- Wink was informed before the Wilkins brothers were fired, not after. And apparently that's when he flipped out (if he even flipped out at all). I don't see anything wrong with it at all. Seems like perfectly normal workplace dynamics given the high stakes and competitive natures of all involved. You're evaluating this like we're talking about some dude at an office making an average living, and the poor bastard is being driven to quit to save the employer unemployment insurance cost. I'd take issue with that too. But we're not talking about some average guy engaged in at will employment. We're talking about a man with a multi-million-dollar contract.

You lost me, what kind of logic is that? Its literally Schoen's job to care about Mara's money. Its not Daboll's 'job', but it impacts him, so I'm sure he cares as well. And even I care about where Wink goes to coach next, so I'm guessing Schoen and Daboll sure have an opinion on it too. Wink is good, I wouldn't want to face his D twice a season. He can go back to the AFC or he can sit on his ass in 2024. He's under contract. Someone was going to the media to leak the Wink/Daboll conflict. Someone was going to the media to air out grievances with specific players (I thought McKinney was a dumbass too, so I just laughed at it, but still --- pretty shitty by a so called 'player's coach'). Someone just up and walked off their job paying over $1 million a year. I think we all should understand a little better now why things came to an end in Baltimore. Someone is a little bitch and his name is Wink.

I think that's too much money for Barkley. So I hope not. He played at a $6-8 million level in 2023. He'll be a year older in 2024. He'll come at a good guy premium and I'm cool with that, but I want to see my team win too, and not merely have a roster full of guys who are nice to root for.

I saw most of that too, so he's just a no-call, no-show. Hadn't seen the part about the argument being a joke story though. I feel kind of bad for Wink now.... this is past unprofessional and into the area that I have to wonder about his mental health. What NFL will want to hire him after this?

He's a good coach, I don't think they wanted to fire him.... I think they wanted to keep him if he were willing to at least pretend not be a big baby. And also, why fire him if you can get him out without owing him money while controlling which team he can go to? This is good for us. Wouldn't want to see him twice a year in DC.

I think Corum will be an outstanding NFL back if he lands on a team with a good OL. He's got rare vision and a solid build for taking what the D gives him.

WOW! reading between the lines a bit, there's a clever bit of gamesmanship from Daboll and Schoen. Drew Wilkins is one of Wink's friends and he has been mentoring Wilkins towards a DC gig of his own. So Wink was being 'retained', but then Daboll and Schoen go behind his back and can the closest guy to Wink on the staff, probably knowing that Wink would lose his shit and resign.... thereby saving them the hassle (financial and otherwise) of canning Wink directly. Smart! And so Wink comes off as kind of a pussy. Its a tough business and Wilkins was the one position coach on D whose group had clearly underdeveloped and underperformed. Daboll canned his friend who wasn't cutting it, Bobby Johnson. Wink couldn't stomach the same deal on his side of the ball. Thats the reason one of them is a head coach, and the other is out of a job.

WOW! reading between the lines a bit, there's a clever bit of gamesmanship from Daboll and Schoen. Drew Wilkins is one of Wink's friends and he has been mentoring Wilkins towards a DC gig of his own. So Wink was being 'retained', but then Daboll and Schoen go behind his back and can the closest guy to Wink on the staff, probably knowing that Wink would lose his shit and resign.... thereby saving them the hassle (financial and otherwise) of canning Wink directly. Smart! And so Wink comes off as kind of a pussy. Its a tough business and Wilkins was the one position coach on D whose group had clearly underdeveloped and underperformed. Daboll canned his friend who wasn't cutting it, Bobby Johnson. Wink couldn't stomach the same deal on his side of the ball. Thats the reason one of them is a head coach, and the other is out of a job.

They weren’t locked in, they could have won the division with a win and some help. Man the dejection on their sidelines is beautiful.

nope. Cutlets was undrafted and then benched.

lol, I just mean they’re going to want someone who won’t be a sideshow distraction.

LOL I suspect that as mildly odd his public persona is, his private life may be surreal. I don't see the Giants going for such a creative personality type for their QB. Sure not at 1st overall.

Caleb Williams gets manicures and carries a purse.

I'm not sure those numbers hold true when its a top athlete, and a surgery performed by a top surgeon. No clue who did Penix's surgery or about how severe his injury was, I'm just saying in general that my ACL repair as a 40 something weekend warrior, performed by the neighborhood ortho (which is mostly where those stats will come from, not a handful of top athletes), isn't the same thing as a heisman contending college football star. I'd want to take a close look at it, but I'm not scared off by a few surgeries. Not these days. Hell, give the guy a Tommy John and put another five yards on his deep ball.

The more I'm reading about this, the shadier it gets.... but not on the refs side of things. Note that Detroit sent three players to the ref to report as eligible. Obviously, they were trying to game the system, and it backfired. Serves them right.

Not if you bend her over.

Thibs just got blocked by a QB. Cut the bum.

Eh bring back DeVito. Taylor is a choker.

Xavier McKinney is playing like shit. All game, arm tackles.

They should just say fuck it in that tush push, instead of fighting it pull the QB forward and let the pushers take out the QBs knees.

Nothing wrong that I saw. Ball was loose. edit to add, the officials can stop and adjust the clock as they need, there’s no reason to flag the defense because they aren’t doing the officials job for them.