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Holmes is a back end of the roster type. I hope we draft CB and S in the mid rounds, 3-5, and/or do post draft pickups. Our secondary is thin.

I like picks 1-2, but we'd have to trade up to get Penix. The rest of the draft is good too.

Didn't DJ also "wow them" at the Senior Bowl practices or something? Oh god, Spencer Rattler wowed people at the Senior Bowl practices this year too, even though he was only average in the regular season, and downright shitty at times....fuck I hope Schoen doesn't take Rattler in the 2nd or something.

I feel like the combine is the place to just confirm what you may have already known or suspected about a guy.

Sounds awful. I am not aligned with McCarthy as a #1 pick. So many of his completions are underneath or simple stop or out routes. It was also a run heavy offense that never really leaned on him in the passing game.

But we have Illuminati now

"With the 6th pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the New York Giants select Rome Odunze, WR, Washington." "The Baltimore Ravens have traded the 30th pick to the New York Giants. With the 30th pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the New York Giants select Michael Penix, QB, Washington."

https://www.giants.com/news/reports-giants-agree-to-terms-with-ol-austin-schlottmann-minnesota-vikings-nfl-free-agency-2024?fbclid=IwAR3LdLca2T_3fvdowQWfcYf9y7ic1ReG38T_QGYOk-KC8LCtIle6a1N3qLw Reports: Giants agree to terms with OL Austin Schlottmann Backup Center. Good to fill out that position.

Yeah Stinnie is a throwaway signing. A backup at best if he somehow does worse than McKethan and Ezeudu.

That'll show em!

Schoen and Co just need reset and start a new era, i.e. take a shot at a QB all together, or else they're going to be part of the overhaul and reset themselves, and find themselves out the door. A reset, getting a new QB, buys them at least two more years. Jayden Daniels if available or if somehow you can trade up for him. If not, you gotta trade up with your 2nd (and then some) to go after Penix or Nix.

Oh I would fire the HC too in the above scenario. If after 3 years you have the same problems you had at the start of your tenure, and you post back to back 10+ loss seasons, you deserve to be fired. THEY will have doubled down on this QB, and be responsible if the OL still sucks.

Here's my criteria for firing Schoen this offseason, IF he does not draft a QB. 1) 10 loss or more season 2) OL still sucks (is bottom 10 or 5 or whatever) 3) QB play sucks and/or DJ is injured and misses time or has to play injured again.

When you look closely, it's more mixed. For instance, Bobby Okerke was a great signing. Resigning Lawrence and AT to those contracts looks like a brilliant move now, considering the current cap and market expansion. Overall I wouldn't call his record good but I wouldn't call it a disaster. His main problem and potential downfall will be a) The QB situation, and b) failing to fix the OL.

Why would they get a pass on him though? Didn't they choose to sign him to the big deal? They also chose to go into the 2023 season with big holes at G and question marks at RT.

Nick McCloud has been fairly decent for us, and bringing him back on a cheap deal is a good move. I'd still like to see us draft both a Safety and CB in the 3rd and 4th rounds, assuming we go WR and QB in rounds 1-2.

Schoen has a bit of a pickle...if he doesn't draft a QB, and if the season is another 10 loss season, he's clearly on the hot seat. But if he takes a QB, even in the 2nd with a guy like Penix, he extends his career with the Giants at least another two years.

Jayden Daniels or Michael Penix here we come.

My ideal draft right now: - #6 WR Rome Odunze - 2nd round (Giants trade their #47 pick and a 2025 2nd round pick to whomever to move up and take Michael Penix) - 3rd: Best CB or S - 4th: Best CB or S - 5th: OL or DL depth - 6th: OL or DL depth

C'Mon Jayden Daniels!

He's a backup QB at best. The hope is we draft a QB now. I'm still a big fan of Penis, I mean Penix, in the 2nd.

Plus factoring in our offensive line woes, I'd like an outlet for our QB to chuck it to if/when under pressure and he has to get rid of the ball quickly to a guy who can go up and snatch it like Odunze.

Given that we have two shrimp WR in Robinson and Mckenzie, and a scrawny guy in Hyatt and Slayton, my bet is Schoen goes with Odunze over Nabers, since Odunze has the bigger frame and superior ball skills.

Would you guys stop ruining my aspirations of getting Penis, I mean Penix!