mastershake Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Through 3 games, the giants OL have given up 9 sacks, and with their RBs have 40 rushes for 72 yards, averaging less than 2 yards per rush. Steelers 16 runs, 7 yards Bears 14 runs, 48 yards (18 of which came on one run from Barkley) 49ers 10 runs, 17 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Well Gettleman did say he wanted to fix the Oline. Guess he fixed it for the other team though. We really need to hire from outside this offseason. Mara really need to be out in his place as well he isn't his father and he will never be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 John Mara is replicating the Wellington-esque “no idea what the fuck I’m doing but I’m trying really hard to not fuck it up” we just weren’t alive for it. Ask that old fuck shredder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, Giants1027 said: John Mara is replicating the Wellington-esque “no idea what the fuck I’m doing but I’m trying really hard to not fuck it up” we just weren’t alive for it. Ask that old fuck shredder The last good GM the team has was Accorsci and he was Wellys hire. JR rode on the coat tails of all the talent EA brought in to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 The biggest problem is Gates doesn't know what the fuck he's doing out there. I'm not sure we know where we are with Hernandez or Zeitler until Gates gets acclimated.... if he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Andrew Thomas. Worse OT in the league minus Bobby Hart. https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-ol-andrew-thomas-stats-162435147.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 lol, now that is not syncing up with what I'm seeing at all. And I've seen about 50% of the Bengals season so far. Hart is unbelievably awful. Thomas and Hart are not in the same conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I was going to respond here but my critique is directed at DG... so I'll take my remarks to that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, mastershake said: Andrew Thomas. Worse OT in the league minus Bobby Hart. https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-ol-andrew-thomas-stats-162435147.html "Worst OT in the NFL" Has only given up a single sack and more pressures facing down of the best pass rushers in the NFL. What the fuck is the article doing with its life lol From PFF The fourth-overall draft pick out of Georgia was thrust into the team's starting left tackle spot after veteran offensive tackle Nate Solder opted out of the 2020 season due to COVID-19 concerns. Since then, Thomas has gone up against some of the league's premier pass rushers against whom Thomas has held his own. According to Pro Football Focus, Thomas has allowed just nine pressures (including one sack) in 102 pass-blocking snaps for a 94.6 pass-blocking efficiency rate. I honestly think you don't even want to be a fan of this team anymore Shakes lol but I think we all feel that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said: "Worst OT in the NFL" Has only given up a single sack and more pressures facing down of the best pass rushers in the NFL. What the fuck is the article doing with its life lol From PFF The fourth-overall draft pick out of Georgia was thrust into the team's starting left tackle spot after veteran offensive tackle Nate Solder opted out of the 2020 season due to COVID-19 concerns. Since then, Thomas has gone up against some of the league's premier pass rushers against whom Thomas has held his own. According to Pro Football Focus, Thomas has allowed just nine pressures (including one sack) in 102 pass-blocking snaps for a 94.6 pass-blocking efficiency rate. I honestly think you don't even want to be a fan of this team anymore Shakes lol but I think we all feel that way. He's allowed 13 pressures in 3 weeks, 2nd most in the league after Bobby Hart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Meanwhile, the Jets 11th overall pick Mekhi Becton has been a stud thus far. His size and athletic ability have been on full display and experts have been raving about his performance, though he did have to leave Week 3 against the Indianapolis Colts because of injury. Overall, he’s allowed just one sack and one hurry while his PFF grades are all above average for the season. Moving on to Tampa Bay where Tristan Wirfs is playing at right tackle to protect Tom Brady with the Bucs, the 13th overall selection has also allowed just two pressures (two QB hits) in three games. And finally, Jedrick Wills, who went 10th overall to the Cleveland Browns has allowed two pressures with one sack and one hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, mastershake said: He's allowed 13 pressures in 3 weeks, 2nd most in the league after Bobby Hart Did you even read the PFF quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, mastershake said: He's allowed 13 pressures in 3 weeks, 2nd most in the league after Bobby Hart And he's only given up one sack. Yeah worst OT in the NFL lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, BlueInCanada said: Did you even read the PFF quote? Yeah, the figures aren't good for Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Here are the PFF scores through week 3: Thomas = 55.5 Becton = 76.9 Wirfs = 73.9 https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/andrew-thomas/59701 https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/mekhi-becton/59818 https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/tristan-wirfs/64818 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said: And he's only given up one sack. Yeah worst OT in the NFL lol Sacks aren't the only way and OT can fail. 13 total pressures. 2nd most in the league. Is that good? Are we supposed to disregard the 12 pressures that weren't sacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, mastershake said: Here are the PFF scores through week 3: Thomas = 55.5 Becton = 76.9 Wirfs = 43.9 Who has Becton gone up against again? Oh right he didn't have a cha CE to face Bosa and the great Dline that is the Colts lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, mastershake said: Sacks aren't the only way and OT can fail. 13 total pressures. 2nd most in the league. Is that good? 9 pressures according to PFF. Guess it depends on what site you source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, mastershake said: Yeah, the figures aren't good for Thomas. He's graded above average against some of the best pass rusher in the NFL lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, BlueInCanada said: Who has Becton gone up against again? Oh right he didn't have a cha CE to face Bosa and the great Dline that is the Colts lol Yeah, DeForest Buckner and Justin Houston are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, mastershake said: Yeah, DeForest Buckner and Justin Houston are terrible. He faces Houston who he gave up a sack too. Thomas went up against Kahlil Mack and Blitzburg and gave up a sack. Lol yeah he's the worst tackle in the NFL. Becton had been the lone bright spot for the Jets. You act as if Thomas has been doing his Solder impersonation. Also take note Becton left the game against Indy he isn't going to make it a full 16 games which his size in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, BlueInCanada said: He faces Houston who he gave up a sack too. Thomas went up against Kahlil Mack and Blitzburg and gave up a sack. Lol yeah he's the worst tackle in the NFL. Becton had been the lone bright spot for the Jets. You act as if Thomas has been doing his Solder impersonation. Also take note Becton left the game against Indy he isn't going to make it a full 16 games which his size in the NFL. The source on the yahoo link says PFF right away. 13 pressures aren't good no matter who you're paying against. Other teams have good pass rushers and blitz a lot as well. Chicago isn't the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I think stats can be a little misleading at this point in the year. We were the 4th-ranked defense headed into the 49ers game. Is there any human being who thinks our defense is the 4th best in the league this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, mastershake said: The source on the yahoo link says PFF right away. 13 pressures aren't good no matter who you're paying against. Other teams have good pass rushers and blitz a lot as well. Chicago isn't the only one. Yahoo didn't use PFF then. PFF literally just out this article out yesterday saying this: According to Pro Football Focus, Thomas has allowed just nine pressures (including one sack) in 102 pass-blocking snaps for a 94.6 pass-blocking efficiency rate. So whatever floats your boat lol 13 pressures can mean anything by Yahoo's metrics it could literally mean that a player was within a yard of DJ. I believe PFF only rates soemthing a pressure if it forces the QB to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedDogs Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Well.... Thomas took a step back, Gates took a step forward, Zeitler knows what to do but can't do it anymore, and Peart is probably already better than Fleming, who's as good as anyone else on the OL. Hernandez was all over the place, but mostly.... not so good. If you told me before the season that Gates and Fleming would exceed expectations, I'd have thought that meant we had a good OL. Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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