O'Hara - Giants offense didn't adjust

[JMFP]

The entire article is pretty good.....actually, it's pretty fucking depressing, but it confirms what I suspected with my untrained eyes.

 

Coming from a mellow veteran like O'Hara, this is a damning indictment of Gilbride's inability (or maybe unwillingness) to make adjustments.

 

To be sure, the #1 problem was that the line was getting torched, and Gilbride can only work with the guys he has. But, if the comment below are accurate, Gilbride did NOT work with what he had.....he just sat there and allowed his guys to get curb stomped.

 

http://nypost.com/2013/09/26/ohara-giants-o-line-didnt-adjust-to-panthers-beatdown/

 

 

 

Shaun O’Hara saw the same thing everyone else did, saw how the Giants offensive line was getting manhandled and abused early and often Sunday in Carolina. Thinking back to his days playing center in the middle of all that chaos, O’Hara wondered why offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride did not come up with some badly needed adjustments.

 

“The thing I was kind of hoping I would see is after the first couple of possessions [was] them saying, ‘You know what? We’re struggling. Let’s just go no-huddle, let’s go up-tempo, let’s change something up,’ ’’

 

O’Hara, currently an NFL Network analyst, told The Post. “That was always the way I felt when I was playing was the best way to get out of it. We’re struggling in a couple of different phases, let’s not sit here and try to draw up the perfect play and try to figure out who’s messing up. Let’s change it up, let’s go fast break and let’s put the pressure on the defense, let’s put them on their heels.

 

“Carolina’s defense just pinned their ears back and they were coming after ‘em. They weren’t even thinking about the run game, and when you see that, I look at it, let’s throw ‘em a curveball here, let’s be the aggressor and let’s make them react to what we’re doing, not vice versa.’’

 

O’Hara played center in the NFL for 11 years, the last seven with the Giants. He saw this season’s version of the offensive line dominated by the Panthers as Eli Manning was sacked four times in the first quarter and six times in the first half of a 38-0 loss. O’Hara was looking for a faster pace to slow down the Panthers, a change in approach that never came before halftime.

 

“I feel like Eli likes that, I feel like when I was playing, I liked it for a number of reasons,’’ said O’Hara, who also is a regular on the Giants postgame show on the team’s website. “Number one, it made the defense kind of vanilla, it made them say, ‘Alright, we don’t have time to send in an exotic blitz by formation,’ they just kind of call out a base defense and they roll. Number two, it gets them kind of tired. After the third sack you had to be sitting there saying something’s up, we’re not doing a good job of protecting, so maybe we should run the ball, call a couple of quick screens.’’

 

Taken aback by the horrid showing by the offensive line, O’Hara — known for his playful jabs to his fellow linemen — took to Twitter after the game: “Just heard NYG flight home was delayed. Apparently Eli was sacked while waiting to board!’’

 

O’Hara acknowledged left tackle Will Beatty, who allowed three sacks, “had a tough game.’’ Channeling his inner offensive lineman, O’Hara couldn’t resist adding, “I will say I thought the holding call they called on the touchdown run was petty. That to me was the killer right there.’’

 

The player who replaced O’Hara at center, David Baas, missed the season opener with a knee injury and O’Hara said, “He didn’t look very fluid in the Denver game, he looked like it was his first game back.’’ O’Hara also sees right guard Chris Snee struggling to stay on the field despite a hip injury.

 

“He’s battling through, a lot of guys probably would have tapped out by now and say I need some time off,’’ O’Hara said.

 

O’Hara also has noticed Snee might be trying to do too much to help rookie right tackle Justin Pugh.

“A lot of times veteran players play worse than the rookie sometimes because they’re so worried about telling the rookie what to do that they forget about what they’re supposed to do,’’ he said. “It kind of becomes a domino effect.

 

“I look at that group and say they’re still a talented group and they’re very smart. Guys are gonna get beat physically in the NFL, but that group, mentally, they can handle the wrinkles in the game plan you want to throw in week and week out. Pugh is a rookie, but in conversations I’ve had with him he’s a smart kid, I think he’s a quick learner. I feel like they can handle any end-game adjustments and that stuff. I can very well see the Giants going into Kansas City and coming away with a win.’’

 

[Storm]

I honestly feel that Pugh is currently our best offensive lineman.

[Bigblue25]

Hey Carolina only had one sack in the 2nd half...they adjusted something

[Bigblue25]

I honestly feel that Pugh is currently our best offensive lineman.

He seemed to be on skates against Charles Johnson he was pushed into Eli's lap on almost every play. I do agree though...he's our best olinemen

[Herc]

if anyone would know it'd be our former center who played in this system

[TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt]

if anyone would know it'd be our former center who played in this system

Ayup...its amazing most of the players past and present are not acolytes of Saint Gilbride... but the fans always seem to give the guy an out....

[Herc]

yeah well haven't you heard? he was part of the organization when we won two superbowls. our ball boys are the best too for the same reason

[JMFP]

Ayup...its amazing most of the players past and present are not acolytes of Saint Gilbride... but the fans always seem to give the guy an out....

 

 

Gilbride has a system that works well when everything goes well....that's about the most I can say about the guy.

 

I just watched the "Book of Manning".....I was reminded Eli was a fucking stud in college......dude beat Alabama, LSU, and won the Cotton Bowl.....last time Ole Miss won the Cotton Bowl, Eli's dad was the QB.

 

Both Super Bowls won at the end of the game.....NFL record in 4th quarter comebacks in 2011.....I have a pretty good idea that Eli is a huge reason why this team has 2 championships during his tenure here.

[Chuck Wagon]

 

 

Gilbride has a system that works well when everything goes well....that's about the most I can say about the guy.

 

I just watched the "Book of Manning".....I was reminded Eli was a fucking stud in college......dude beat Alabama, LSU, and won the Cotton Bowl.....last time Ole Miss won the Cotton Bowl, Eli's dad was the QB.

 

Both Super Bowls won at the end of the game.....NFL record in 4th quarter comebacks in 2011.....I have a pretty good idea that Eli is a huge reason why this team has 2 championships during his tenure here.

 

 

Which is why...the case can be made that he is the greatest Giant ever......yeah...I totally went there.

 

 

C. Wgaon

[JMFP]

 

 

Which is why...the case can be made that he is the greatest Giant ever......yeah...I totally went there.

 

 

C. Wgaon

 

Clearly, Joe Morris is the greatest Giant ever, and possibly the most important person in the 20th century.

 

But, if we are talking the second best.........LT, Eli, Simms.....it's quite an argument.

[Herc]

 

 

Which is why...the case can be made that he is the greatest Giant ever......yeah...I totally went there.

 

 

C. Wgaon

 

it's not a silly argument. two superbowls including the greatest superbowl win ever is nothing to sneeze at

[Steitzenhaus]

I remember after the first championship the following season teams began to employ three step drops and quick routes to help neutralize our pass rush. I'd hope after last week Coughlin, Gilbride and the rest of the staff recognize that we can't run our offense right now. We have a quarterback and great receivers they need to find a way to get something going.

[Nas]

I remember after the first championship the following season teams began to employ three step drops and quick routes to help neutralize our pass rush. I'd hope after last week Coughlin, Gilbride and the rest of the staff recognize that we can't run our offense right now. We have a quarterback and great receivers they need to find a way to get something going.

 

Ok, Run It

[Iceman_NYG]

 

Ok, Run It

Whats wrong with you?? too much Xanax?