Mr. P Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Looks like OL David Diehl restructured his contract, lowering his base salary from $4.2M to $1.2M. That clears another $1.5M in cap space. https://twitter.com/#!/TheBlueScreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Good, Reese is making this work. This may turn into a strong offseason for the superbowl champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'm not sure all this restructuring is good for upcoming years... we maybe in cap hell for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'm not sure all this restructuring is good for upcoming years... we maybe in cap hell for years to come. The new media deal should kick In within a year or two which will raise the cap by a good amount. My guess is upwards Of $10 million. Just trust Reese, he obviously knows the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashTalker92 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 The new media deal should kick In within a year or two which will raise the cap by a good amount. My guess is upwards Of $10 million. Just trust Reese, he obviously knows the deal. Let's hope you're right. If it's ok to help the team then every team would be doing this same pony trick. Let's all remember everyone dump their cash at Madoff in saying " just trus him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 The new media deal should kick In within a year or two which will raise the cap by a good amount. My guess is upwards Of $10 million. Just trust Reese, he obviously knows the deal. The cap increases for everyone.. it still means we'd be in cap hell compared to other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Do the "option" years affect salary if we choose not to pick up the option? Not totally sure how that works, we obviously would not be paying the guy but does that money still count against the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 The cap increases for everyone.. it still means we'd be in cap hell compared to other teams Giants seem to be right up against the cap most years but are able to still adequately replace the players they lose through the draft (or they are already on the roster) and by making good free agent acquisitions that don't break the bank....so as long as we keep that going, I'm not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Giants seem to be right up against the cap most years but are able to still adequately replace the players they lose through the draft (or they are already on the roster) and by making good free agent acquisitions that don't break the bank....so as long as we keep that going, I'm not worried. I don't recall the Giants or any team for that matter do THAT much restructuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I don't recall the Giants or any team for that matter do THAT much restructuring. If you think about it, the restructures so far have been Eli, Baas, and Diehl.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 The cap increases for everyone.. it still means we'd be in cap hell compared to other teams Not quite, Jerry Reese knows what he's doing, and by then some of our guys can be cut without much of a cap hit. Like Canty, Rolle, Diehl etc... It's really not a big deal as long as we resign some of our homegrown core guys. Nicks, Phillips, JPP, Cruz etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I don't recall the Giants or any team for that matter do THAT much restructuring. Happens all the time Last year off the top of my head, Rolle, Jacobs, and Webster all restructured. I think the jets had like 5 guys restructure. It's not as big a deal as you making it. It's not ideal, but it works. And the cap rising helps us. It's not like we are the only team up against the cap. Pretty much any team with a franchise QB is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Happes all the time Last year of the top of my head, Rolle, Jacobs, and Webster all restructured. I think the jets had like 5 guys restructure. It's not as big a deal as you making it. It's not ideal, but it works. And the cap rising helps us. It's not like we are the only team up against the cap. Pretty much any team with a franchise QB is. Yep the key is managing the cap and keeping good talent around your franchise QB for as long as you can to compete for that trophy for as long as possible....until you have to rebuild.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Do the "option" years affect salary if we choose not to pick up the option? Not totally sure how that works, we obviously would not be paying the guy but does that money still count against the cap? I'd assume that the salary in the option years would not count against the cap in the option years unless the option was actually picked up by the team and/or player. As for original bonus money, I don't know if that's prorated over the base agreement or if that's prorated over the base agreement + option years. Might have to keep an eye on T2's deal on spotrac given the Giants have an option to release him after 1 year. Not sure how that'd affect his 11 million guaranteed in regards to the cap. Would that bonus get accelerated into next year, thereby all but forcing the Giants to pick up the option? Is that where injury settlements come in to play? Don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Giants seem to be right up against the cap most years but are able to still adequately replace the players they lose through the draft (or they are already on the roster) and by making good free agent acquisitions that don't break the bank....so as long as we keep that going, I'm not worried. Me neither...and most of these FA's are just looking for a fat payday. Most don't pan out with their new teams as they get complacent and say why risk too much...I got mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Not quite, Jerry Reese knows what he's doing, and by then some of our guys can be cut without much of a cap hit. Like Canty, Rolle, Diehl etc... It's really not a big deal as long as we resign some of our homegrown core guys. Nicks, Phillips, JPP, Cruz etc... Restructuring by means of converting salary to bonus money, like Eli did...only worsens the cap hit in out years. Look up my post on T2's deal where I went through it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Restructuring by means of converting salary to bonus money, like Eli did...only worsens the cap hit in out years. Look up my post on T2's deal where I went through it all. Yea I mostly understand the process of restructuring contracts. My point was the new media deal will help the cap situation is the upcoming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmenroc Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Yea I mostly understand the process of restructuring contracts. My point was the new media deal will help the cap situation is the upcoming years. Yes, the cap increase will certainly help consume any potential cap hit we'd take...but at the end of the day, we'd still take a hit for cutting said players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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