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More than just a great name.....he's 6'4", ran the 40 in 4.40 and was Memphis all time leading reciever. Fast and tall....yet a little raw....equals: give the guy a chance to see if he's cut from NFL cloth.

 

I have absolutely no problem with Cruz and Calhoun being groomed for down the road. Plus, WR's get hurt so often that it's nice to have options on the bench that have actual talent

He also dropped a bunch of easy catches this preseason.

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That's a real bummer....I read recently that he still wasn't 100% since his injury.

 

 

 

 

I'll always remember that sack on Brady in the Super Bowl....I wish the kid luck wherever he winds up.

 

Bernard and Canty better step the fuck up this season.

Funny.....that's the exact same thing that jumps out in my mind whenever I hear his name. I remember following the Patriots blog and listening to the guys whine and they were furious that a rookie like Alford got through the line and smacked Brady hard. I remember one guy saying, "I just want to get a gun and shoot myself in the eye". I laughed my ass off.

 

And yeah....I hope he continues his NFL career and wish him the best of luck. He's already got a superbowl ring and gave us a good memory.

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More than just a great name.....he's 6'4", ran the 40 in 4.40 and was Memphis all time leading reciever. Fast and tall....yet a little raw....equals: give the guy a chance to see if he's cut from NFL cloth.

 

I have absolutely no problem with Cruz and Calhoun being groomed for down the road. Plus, WR's get hurt so often that it's nice to have options on the bench that have actual talent

 

Don't know much about Calhoun, but Cruz could be a real steal.

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Funny.....that's the exact same thing that jumps out in my mind whenever I hear his name. I remember following the Patriots blog and listening to the guys whine and they were furious that a rookie like Alford got through the line and smacked Brady hard. I remember one guy saying, "I just want to get a gun and shoot myself in the eye". I laughed my ass off.

 

And yeah....I hope he continues his NFL career and wish him the best of luck. He's already got a superbowl ring and gave us a good memory.

 

 

Alford will eventually be 100%, and some team is going to sign that kid, and he'll be a pro-bowl-caliber player soon enough.

 

And God forbid he lands in the NFC East.....I can see that fat fuck in Philly signing him.

 

This is going to be a move the Giants regret.

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He also dropped a bunch of easy catches this preseason.

A couple of those passes he dropped the other night would've taken an acrobat to catch (one was too high and the other thrown behind him on a full blown run). Although, he did drop one that hit him right on the numbers. Cruz dropped a cherry as well. Hopefully, those are anomolies and not regular muffs. That one Cruz missed was because he tried to trap it on his chest instead of guiding it in with his hands. If I remember the Calhoun drop, it seemed he started looking upfield a nano second before catching the ball. Those things can be trained out of an athlete (knock on wood)

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Whimper just got the axe.

 

I'm still upset about Alford......I like him far better than Benard! And he's a lot cheaper and younger.

 

"Guy Whimper, a player the Giants once hoped could be a left tackle of the future. Whimper was converted to guard but didn't pan out there either. The addition of former Eagles guard Shawn Andrews made Whimper and his $1.176-million base salary expendable" (Mike Garafolo)

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With about 20 minutes to ge before cuts have to be in....here's a running tab on the Departed 24:

 

1.DT Dwayne Hendricks

 

2.OL Jim Cordle

 

3.OL Dennis Landolt

 

4.DE Tommie Hill

 

5.QB Dominic Randolph

 

6.TE Scott Chandler

 

7.TE Bear Pascoe

 

8.S John Busing

 

9.WR Tim Brown

 

10.RB Gartrell Johnson

 

11.OL Jacob Bender

 

12.QB Rhett Bomar

 

13.FB Jerome Johnson

 

14.DL Nate Collins

 

15.WR Derek Hagan

 

16.DE Alex Hall

 

17.DT Jay Alford

 

18.OL Guy Whimper

 

19.OL Herb Taylor

 

20.CB Courtney Brown (injured reserve)

 

21.RB Andre Brown

 

22.CB Seth Williams

 

23.S Matt O’Hanlon

 

24.S Sha’reff Rashad

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Here's the list from the daily news :

Here, then, is a running tab on the Departed 24:

 

1.

 

DT Dwayne Hendricks

2.

 

OL Jim Cordle

3.

 

OL Dennis Landolt

4.

 

DE Tommie Hill

5.

 

QB Dominic Randolph

6.

 

TE Scott Chandler

7.

 

TE Bear Pascoe

8.

 

S John Busing

9.

 

WR Tim Brown

10.

 

RB Gartrell Johnson

11.

 

OL Jacob Bender

12.

 

QB Rhett Bomar

13.

 

FB Jerome Johnson

14.

 

DL Nate Collins

15.

 

WR Derek Hagan

16.

 

DE Alex Hall

17.

 

DT Jay Alford

18.

 

OL Guy Whimper

19.

 

OL Herb Taylor

20.

 

CB Courtney Brown (injured reserve)

21.

 

RB Andre Brown

22.

 

CB Seth Williams

23.

 

S Matt O’Hanlon

24.

 

S Sha’reff Rashad

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2010/09/giants-begin-making-final-cuts.html#ixzz0ybSmyfIK

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Offense (24)

Quarterbacks (2): Eli Manning, Sage Rosenfels,

Running Backs (4): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, D.J. Ware, Darius Reynaud

Fullbacks (1): Madison Hedgecock

Wide Receivers (6): Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Hakeem Nicks, Ramses Barden, Victor Cruz, Duke Calhoun

Tight Ends (2): Kevin Boss, Travis Beckum

Offensive Linemen (9): David Diehl, Rich Seubert, Shaun O'Hara, Chris Snee, Kareem McKenzie, Will Beatty, Adam Koets, Shawn Andrews, Mitch Petrus

 

Defense (26)

Defensive Linemen: (9): Justin Tuck, Barry Cofield, Chris Canty, Mathias Kiwanuka, Osi Umenyiora, Rocky Bernard, Dave Tollefson, Jason Pierre-Paul, Linval Joseph

Linebackers (8): Jonathan Goff, Michael Boley, Keith Bulluck, Bryan Kehl, Clint Sintim, Chase Blackburn, Phillip Dillard, Gerris Wilkinson

Cornerbacks (5): Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas, Aaron Ross, Bruce Johnson, D.J. Johnson

Safeties (4): Antrel Rolle, Deon Grant, Kenny Phillips, Michael Johnson

 

Specialists (3)

Kicker (1): Lawrence Tynes

Punter (1): Matt Dodge

Long Snapper (1): Zak DeOssie

 

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Beat me by a minute!

 

Wish Alford could've stuck around. He's the one cut that has me a bit bummed. I'm very surprised that Duke Calhoun has seemed to have passed Derek Hagan, leading to the latter's being cut. And I have a hard time believing we are seriously only going with Boss and Beckum at TE. I thought Pascoe was a gamer. Not shocked about the Bomar cut once we traded for Rosenfels. Hopefully Rhett can make it on the PS.

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Cool....both Cruz and Calhoun stuck.

 

Also....glad to see they kept a fifth CB

 

Surpirsed they kept 8 LB's. I figured Wilkensn or Kehl would go down the road

 

 

Is the 53 man roster listed above the straight skinny? I just checked on Garafalo's page and I didn't see him post the final roster yet. I agree with your points, Bleedin', just don't know if that 5th CB is any good at all. I supposed I'm glad for Calhoun, but I remain a skeptic. Hopefully he shows something. I imagine he won't be dressing for most games, though. I'm also surprised that both Kehl and Wilk made it.

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Is the 53 man roster listed above the straight skinny? I just checked on Garafalo's page and I didn't see him post the final roster yet. I agree with your points, Bleedin', just don't know if that 5th CB is any good at all. I supposed I'm glad for Calhoun, but I remain a skeptic. Hopefully he shows something. I imagine he won't be dressing for most games, though. I'm also surprised that both Kehl and Wilk made it.

Yeah...I believe the list is accurate. Of course, by tomorrow morning the Giants might have signed a couple of guys from other teams waiver list which means this list isn't exactly sealed in stone yet. I think they could pick up a TE and it wouldn't surprise me if they got a vet punter. Time will tell.

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Wish Alford could've stuck around. He's the one cut that has me a bit bummed. I'm very surprised that Duke Calhoun has seemed to have passed Derek Hagan, leading to the latter's being cut. And I have a hard time believing we are seriously only going with Boss and Beckum at TE. I thought Pascoe was a gamer. Not shocked about the Bomar cut once we traded for Rosenfels. Hopefully Rhett can make it on the PS.

 

Me too....this was a bad move. I can understand if he were on the downside of his career, but I can't see how we can keep Gerris "coulda-shoulda-woulda" Wilkinson over Alford.

 

I get the fact that Alford is the least healthy guy in a crowded position, I just figured this kid had enough promise to wait it out a few more weeks.

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http://www.giants.com/news/headlines/story.asp?story_id=44278

Giants Get to 53

By Michael Eisen, Giants.com

 

EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - The Giants today concluded a significant two-day restructuring and reduction of their roster by releasing 24 players to reach the NFL regular season limit of 53 players.

 

Among those players who were waived were Rhett Bomar, who threw more passes than any other Giants quarterback this preseason; defensive tackle Jay Alford; running backs Andre Brown and Gartrell Johnson; and tight end Bear Pascoe. The club terminated the contract of three veterans: wide receiver Derek Hagan, offensive lineman Guy Whimper and safety John Busing.

 

Also waived were quarterback Dominick Randolph; fullback Jerome Johnson; wide receiver Tim Brown; tight end Scott Chandler; offensive linemen Jacob Bender, Herb Taylor, Jim Cordle and Todd Londolt; defensive linemen Tommie Hill, Alex Hall, Dwayne Hendricks and Nate Collins; and defensive backs Seth Williams, Courtney Brown, Matt O'Hanlon and Sha'reff Rashad.

 

Hall and Courtney Brown were waived injured.

 

The current roster includes two rookie free agent receivers - Victor Cruz and Duke Calhoun, all five of the Giants' healthy 2010 draft choices, and eight linebackers.

 

It also includes quarterback Sage Rosenfels and running back/return specialist Darius Reynaud, who were acquired yesterday in a trade with the Minnesota Vikings.

 

"We put the roster together in the best interest of our football team, the best way in which we felt would possibly balance off our numbers and still be very much aware of the way in which you would rank the ability level of all the players on the team," Coach Tom Coughlin said. "You'd like to think you're ready to go in the first game and hopefully we won't have to make a subtle adjustment as we go along."

 

The Giants open the regular season Sunday, Sept. 12 at home against the Carolina Panthers. If they make no changes, the opening day roster will look like this:

 

Offense (24)

Quarterbacks (2): Eli Manning, Sage Rosenfels,

Running Backs (4): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, D.J. Ware, Darius Reynaud

Fullbacks (1): Madison Hedgecock

Wide Receivers (6): Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Hakeem Nicks, Ramses Barden, Victor Cruz, Duke Calhoun

Tight Ends (2): Kevin Boss, Travis Beckum

Offensive Linemen (9): David Diehl, Rich Seubert, Shaun O'Hara, Chris Snee, Kareem McKenzie, Will Beatty, Adam Koets, Shawn Andrews, Mitch Petrus

 

Defense (26)

Defensive Linemen: (9): Justin Tuck, Barry Cofield, Chris Canty, Mathias Kiwanuka, Osi Umenyiora, Rocky Bernard, Dave Tollefson, Jason Pierre-Paul, Linval Joseph

Linebackers (8): Jonathan Goff, Michael Boley, Keith Bulluck, Bryan Kehl, Clint Sintim, Chase Blackburn, Phillip Dillard, Gerris Wilkinson

Cornerbacks (5): Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas, Aaron Ross, Bruce Johnson, D.J. Johnson

Safeties (4): Antrel Rolle, Deon Grant, Kenny Phillips, Michael Johnson

 

Specialists (3)

Kicker (1): Lawrence Tynes

Punter (1): Matt Dodge

Long Snapper (1): Zak DeOssie

 

A mild surprise is the inclusion of both Cruz and Calhoun. Cruz, from UMass, seemed to be a lock after an excellent training camp and his performance in the preseason, when he led the NFL with 297 receiving yards and tied for the lead with four touchdowns. Calhoun, a product of Memphis, scored the game-winning touchdown against New Engalnd on a 60-yard reception from Bomar. Their ascension, on offense and special teams, led to Hagan's departure.

 

"It was a tough call," Coughlin said. "Derek Hagan is a very good special teams player and he made our team a year ago because of that. We felt like our situation, particularly at the gunner spot, had not emerged the way we wanted to. Calhoun did a nice job the other night. He and Reynaud, along with a couple of other guys - D.J. Johnson - will get an excellent opportunity to help us in that regard. We need the power and the speed going down the field because of the young punter (Dodge) and we didn't get many plays made out of the gunner position in preseason.

 

"We certainly had an eye toward who can help us on special teams and there are always thoughts on that when you put your roster together - who's going to perform in what categories. That had a lot to do with our trade for (Reynaud). It's going to be reflected in the added responsibility we put on a lot of people to help us become a stronger special teams outfit than we were in the preseason. We kept eight linebackers and a lot of thought went into that - not that they're all going to be active. There's always great attention given to special teams. We were a team coming into training camp that had a lot of work to do and a lot of transitional spots that had to be taken care of. We hope we're moving in that direction."

 

This is Coughlin's 15th season as an NFL head coach and cutdown day never gets easier. A couple of today's transactions were particularly unpleasant.

 

One was Pascoe, who was the team's only healthy tight end for much of training camp.

 

"There was an awful lot of sentiment for Bear, because of what he was able to do," Coughlin said. "There was an entire week in practice when he allowed us to practice. I had to cut some snaps out, he was the guy that kept us going. And when you'd go to him and think he might be a little fatigued, he'd say just the opposite - 'Bring it on coach, I can do it.' That attitude is a tremendous thing."

 

Bomar made tremendous strides this summer. He played the Pittsburgh game because Manning and Jim Sorgi were hurt and his 77 passes were 42 more than any other Giants quarterback threw this preseason. Ultimately, however, the Giants wanted a backup with NFL regular season experience and dealt for Rosenfels.

 

"Bomar's progress has been outstanding," Coughlin said. "He's worked very, very hard. He did receive a lot of attention, he did make progress and he did show us what he can do."

 

Alford, a 2007 third-round draft choice who missed all of last season after undergoing knee surgery, got caught in a numbers crunch at defensive tackle.

 

"It was competitive at that spot this year," Coughlin said. "Even though we still feel like we have a ways to go to have the front that we say we have, it was a very difficult choice to have to make. Based on the competitiveness at the spot and the ability to rank the guys in terms of their production, we really didn't, in all fairness, have a lot of choice."

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