Just Like Clemens

[mickeef2]

I guess Manny felt the need to get back at the Sox and rejuvenate his career after his days with the team ended. Thankfully, we're still clean and our legacy is intact.

[MakeMeSomeFoodHo]

I guess Manny felt the need to get back at the Sox and rejuvenate his career after his days with the team ended. Thankfully, we're still clean and our legacy is intact.

bwahahahahahahahahaha..yeah, Mark Belhorn, Bill Mueller, Daivd Ortiz, Pedro, Nomar, Damon ect never did steroids while playing for the Red Sox...face it Mickeef..your 2004 championship team was full of juicebags.

[fringe]

the under wins :lol:

[MakeMeSomeFoodHo]

the under wins :lol:

hahahahahaha

 

 

you couldnt have been more accurate.

[BullsOnParade]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[LorfTVP]

No respect for Mueller? I always thought that he was one of those gentlemen of the game like Mike Sweeney, Sean Casey, Tony Clark, etc.

[Herc]

sean casey? you mean the guy who went from 25 homeruns a year to single digits in one season?

[Plow]

Just wanted to quote mcqueef from the Arod thread

 

I wouldn't be so quick to suspect a guy like Manny. From all accounts, the guy works harder than anybody else no matter what team he's on, so I'd have to see some proof before I convict him.

-mcqueef

 

just wanted to make sure you are held accountable for what you said

 

 

 

[mickeef2]

You are right, Plow. Manny Ramirez is a PHD user. I'm just glad he didn't start doing it until after leaving the Sox.

 

On a related note- A Rod's back tonight!

[MakeMeSomeFoodHo]

You are right, Plow. Manny Ramirez is a PHD user. I'm just glad he didn't start doing it until after leaving the Sox.

 

On a related note- A Rod's back tonight!

we all know youre not a smart guy, but are you really this dumb?

[so-cal dub]

Oh we're supposed to believe he NEVER touched a PED while with the Sox? Get the fuck outta here and the next person to get popped is going to be Varibitch or Ortiz as soon as Selena Roberts dries the well on Arod.

[Lubeck]

Oh we're supposed to believe he NEVER touched a PED while with the Sox? Get the fuck outta here and the next person to get popped is going to be Varibitch or Ortiz as soon as Selena Roberts dries the well on Arod.

 

That well is bone dry. Not even top 100 at Amazon and it hasn't even been a week.

[Herc]

That well is bone dry. Not even top 100 at Amazon and it hasn't even been a week.

 

thats what happens when you write a book full of anonymous sources

[MakeMeSomeFoodHo]

thats what happens when you write a book full of anonymous sources

and by a women who obviously hates men. first the duke lacross team, now alex.

[fringe]

and by a women who obviously hates men. first the duke lacross team, now alex.

that's good knowledge. plus she blames everything on the fact that he grew up without a father- how trite.

[Herc]

i think jason whitlock (my fav writer) sums it up perfectly

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9542614...dibility-issues

 

Bio hazard: A-Rod author has

credibility issues

 

by Jason Whitlock

 

Jason Whitlock brings his edgy and thought-provoking style

to FOXSports.com. Columnist for the Kansas City Star, he

has won the National Journalism Award for Commentary for

"his ability to seamlessly integrate sports and social

commentary and to challenge widely held assumptions along

the racial divide."

 

A-Rod biographer/hunter Selena Roberts is

beginning to remind me of Rev. Al Sharpton.

 

Sharpton separated the crime from the culture, too.

When he gallivanted around New York in the '80s

seeking justice for alleged victim Tawana Brawley,

his target was the culture of racism more than the

six white men falsely accused of rape.

Tuesday, as I listened to Roberts defend her New

York Times columns that painted the Duke lacrosse

players as rapists, cowards and liars during an

interview on Jim Rome's nationally syndicated radio

show, I couldn't help but notice she went with the

Sharp-tongue defense.

 

"I wrote about the culture at Duke, and there's no

doubt about that. I stand by that today," Roberts

said. "I separated the criminal investigation from the

culture."

 

Maybe it's a New York, freedom-fighter thing, this

amazing ability to ignore the innocence of the

criminally accused while making your justifiable

point that America suffers from and with racism and

sexism.

 

Roberts' writings/rantings on Duke lacrosse have

become relevant again because she's asked us to

trust her anonymous investigative reporting and

speculation about Alex Rodriguez, the confessed

steroid cheat and home run hitter.

 

According to Roberts' new book and her interview

blitzkrieg, Rodriguez used steroids in high school,

tipped pitches to opposing batters, tipped Hooters

waitresses a paltry 15 percent, was nicknamed "Bitch

Tits" in the locker room and is caught up in being

perfect because his father abandoned him as a child.

 

Her sourcing for the most damaging allegations, by

her own admission, is either anonymous or non-

existent. She wants us to trust her, and her New

York Times- and Sports Illustrated-highlighted

résumé.

 

Unlike Bob Costas, the producers at ESPN and the

steroids-obsessed baseball journalists, I don't trust

Roberts or her book, and I expressed some of my

reasons in a Kansas City Star column that ran on

Sunday.

 

The Times and SI can kiss my ass. Jayson Blair

worked at The Times. Mike Price won a settlement

against SI for the lies the magazine published about

him. And years ago, an SI writer wrote a profile

about me for the Columbia Journalism Review and,

among other journalistic crimes, lifted a quote from

an old column and passed it off as something I said

to him.

 

Never trust a publication. Hell, the more prestigious

the publication, the more pressure there is for the

writers to cut corners in pursuit of a good story.

 

Place your trust in the writer. And Roberts' reaction

to the exoneration of the Duke lacrosse players calls

into question her credibility. By refusing to

acknowledge her mistakes in the Duke case, she

creates the impression that her agenda trumps the

truth.

 

She looks like a feminist version of Al Sharpton.

 

Jim Rome asked Roberts about the questionable

sourcing for the allegations she levels against A-

Rod.

 

"You give people a litmus test, Jim," she said. "You

say to them, you go back to them over and over

again and you say, 'Is it consistent what they're

saying to me? Have they changed at all? Do they

have a credibility issue? Is there anything in their

past that might make me wary of this person?' "

 

You see, Selena Roberts thinks like me. Is there

anything in her past that would make me wary of her

allegations against A-Rod?

 

Rome asked her specifically about my column

contending that the Duke lacrosse case should make

us suspicious of her reporting about Rodriguez.

 

"First of all (Jason) needs to go back and read the

columns that I wrote about Duke lacrosse," she said.

"It doesn't exactly jibe with what he's saying now. I

have always separated what the crime was ... and

what the culture was. It didn't have to rise to the

level of a crime to rise to the level of a column. And I

wrote about the culture at Duke, and there's no

doubt about that. I stand by that today."

 

She later added: "What I did about Duke is I

separated the criminal investigation from a culture.

Now we know what is irrefutable about that night.

These women had pornographic pictures taken of

them and distributed on the Internet. These women

had racial slurs yelled at them. That is indisputable.

There were broomsticks waved at them. That is

indisputable. The issues that happened that night,

separate from the crime, were in my opinion — and

people can disagree with this — were worth writing

about."

 

Here's what's also indisputable: At no time in her

original Duke lacrosse-bashing column did she

mention anything about pornographic pictures,

racial slurs or broomsticks waved at strippers. She

wrote about rape, robbery, strangulation and a hate

crime. You can read the column for yourself here.

 

You can read a detailed analysis of Roberts' many

Duke lacrosse errors at this blog.

 

It is embarrassingly disingenuous for Roberts to

suggest that her columns about Duke lacrosse

weren't founded on the belief that the players

sexually assaulted the false accuser. Her refusal to

admit this mistake and apologize makes me wonder

what other truths she's willing to fudge.

 

During her interview with Jim Rome, she claimed she

went into her investigation of Rodriguez believing

he had never used steroids. She said that A-Rod's

interview on 60 Minutes convinced her of his

innocence.

 

"I didn't think he was dirty," Roberts said. "I thought

he was clean."

 

This is nearly impossible for me to believe. Roberts

is a cynic, at least she is in her column writing.

When she worked for The New York Times, she

wrote numerous columns about A-Rod with the

same theme: Rodriguez is a phony. Read this, this

and this and then read this blog for examples of

her A-Rod cynicism.

 

In those columns, does she come off like someone

who would take Rodriguez at his word? She comes

off like someone who doesn't believe a word that

comes out of A-Rod's mouth.

 

What I'm about to write is pure speculation.

 

Selena Roberts believes America is a safe haven for

sexism (I happen to agree, but that's beside the

point). She wanted the Duke lacrosse players to be

shining examples of how deep-rooted and protected

our sexism is, and she was more than willing to

ignore their innocence to make her point (this

repulses me).

 

Selena Roberts believes professional sports — the

money, fame and power they primarily give young

men — are corrosive of good values and a haven for

sexism (I happen to agree, but that's beside the

point). She wants Alex Rodriguez to stand as a

shining example of what's wrong with American

sports, and she just might be willing to ignore

flattering truths about A-Rod and publish hearsay

and gossip to make her point (and this is unfair).

 

She's written a celebrity-gossip book, "A-Rod: Game

of Innuendo." Maybe you despise Rodriguez so

much that you don't care about her methods and

whether the rest of the alleged mainstream media

characterize her work properly.

 

I bet the Duke lacrosse players and Tawana Brawley's

victims could explain to you why you should care.

 

You or someone you love could be the next

criminally innocent, shining example of a New York

freedom fighter's social agenda.

 

 

[Lubeck]

I like Whitlock. Sometimes I disagree with him but most of the time he is spot on and he is almost ALWAYS writing about controversial issues and taking a strong side.

[Herc]

im almost always in agreement with him on the controversial issues. plus he always cites the wire so he's A+ in my book