and yeah i heard about wagner being involved in the cy young race and it's a joke. first of all he's not even the best closer in the NL--as usual that title belongs to trevor hoffman
hoffman 1.83 era 0.96 whip 4 blown saves
wagner 2.14 era 1.07 whip 5 blown saves
hmmm, better save percentage, better era, better whip, pitches for a team that's 1/2 game out of first place in the tighest division in the majors and the leader in a tight wild card race. i'm not saying that hoffman should be in the cy young race either, but if any closer should be there it's him. in '98 the guy was 53/54 in save opportunities and the pads won 98 games and he lost out to glavine who didnt even have that great of a season that year, and gagne had to be perfect to win a cy young, so neither guy should even be inthe conversation