IntlGrounding

I'll give you some time to wrap your head around that one. I didn't know calling out your obsession would upset you so much. I would have just saved my breath and gone straight for the jugular in my first post.

Not really. You've resorted to arguing a sub point I made in a seperate thread full of points that you have conveniently decided to ignore. Now you are hoping to paint me as obsessed with your team to justify your obsession with mine. I'm sorry. Unlike you, I have not made threads that point and laugh at rival players when they did something that many on my own team have been doing. Therein lies the difference. But, I can understand. I'ts easier to have 1st grader level arguments when the facts don't stack up in your favor. Although I must apologize for insulting the first graders. I'm sure most of them wouldn't stoop to your level. I know, through your admissions to Socaldub, that it is very important for you to win internet fights so I expect more of the same.

Methinks the mickeef2 doth protest too much.

I was trying to be nice and joke around a little bit...but apparantly I've gotten you all worked up. So you're basically resorting to "NO I'M NOT YOU ARE!!!"....Nice example of an intelligent argument from one who is supposed to be shaping the minds of our youth. Heaven help us. No Yankee fan I know calls it Yankee Universe or even acknowledges it. I know this is a safer route for you to take then arguing actual facts but I can understand that this is what your intelligence level allows. Take a deep breath and when you want to have an intelligent discussion let me know.

Typical retort when one does not really have a response. Pretty weak.

Although I think your drinking too much of the Red Sox Kool Aid and it clouds your judgement, I wouldn't bother making a thread about you. You're still a Giant fan so that redeems you a little bit.

There is not one clubhouse in baseball that doesn't know that steriods was being used. there is not one person in the MLB offices that didn't know. They all purposefully looked away and everyone is guilty and no one can claim the morale high ground and point fingers I've been saying this pretty clearly all along. I call it facts when calling out a hypocrite. Keep up the spin machine. You'll make your fellow sox fans proud It'll be fun until it's someone on your team. Unlike you, I won't have people lining up waiting to shove it back in my face because I was so obsessed with my rival that I had to throw stones when my team lives in a glass house. Well you can keep guessing or I can tell you the actual fact. The guy who was busted worked for the NY clubhouses. That's all they went with. Mitchell, the one chosen to compile the report, has a stake in the Red Sox and is buddy buddy with the front office. There are plenty of articles and pictures documenting it I am not wishing or hoping...it's black and white. Google is your friend. Sure they did, because he was falling apart physically. However you claimed that they kept him when he "started hitting home runs". Of course this was your subtle insinuation that he was roiding again. or maybe not...I never know with you sneaky bitter sox fans. Either way, regardless of if he started hitting home runs legitimately or not, they wanted him off the team and couldn't do it because the morons involved in signing him back in 2001 gave him a horrible contract. In a sentance denying your inferiority complex, you need to yet again involve the Yankees by comparing our WS totals and reference the "biggest choke in the history of the sport"? You betray yourself too easily. Very funny. The difference is that it would not suprise me and I have stated it. You come on here talking crap and pointing fingers as a bitter Red Sox fan. We can laugh at you now for your ignorance and continue laughing when the bullshit hits you in the face as Ortiz is giving his press conference admitting he used steriods. In fact, it appears as though he already has prepared us with his excuse in case it comes out that he has: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ortizsteroids

I know you'd like to believe that but the actual truth of guys like Giambi, Clemens, and Arod is that they started roiding with other teams. The Yankees biggest mistake was in going after the "top" players who were being aided by steriods. Fortunately for you, your scrappy dirt dog Sox can't "afford" to keep up with the Yankees so they lose out on these players and spend 51,111,111 for the rights to talk with lovable clean and upstanding foriegn pitchers who can't help walking the bases loaded every inning. And please don't claim the morale high ground with regards to avoiding getting suspected steriod users when the Mitchell Report documents e-mails with the Red Sox front office discussing Eric Gagne's highly suspected steriod use before trading for him, and they went ahead and got him anyway. Your team almost got Arod and this would have been your problem. Of course, all the Red Sox Fans were going out of thier minds with glee thinking they had A-rod until the last minute when the deal fell through and he went to the Yankees. If that deal had gone through would that have made your team cheaters too? The true answer is no. You already have/have had players on your team who are roiding. If Mitchell had used a trainer in the Red Sox clubhouse to gather information for the Mitchell Report then there would have been a few more names on the list that would have had you cringing. Lucky for you, Mitchell went with the trainer who was in the Yankees and Mets Clubhouses. I would hope Mitchell didn't allow his stake in the Red Sox Organization to effect his judgement regarding the fact that no prominent Red Sox were on the list, but we'll never know. Bud was the one who made the decision and screwed that one up like he has everything else. The Giambi thing is an absolute lie. His contract was ridiculously unmovable and if you bothered to take off the Red Sox colored glasses you would know this. The minute Giambis contract was up this year, it was bye bye. Although I think you do understand this and you are hoping that I am stupid and will believe your fanboyish attempts to attack the Yankees. Interestingly enough, i don't see you denying your inferiority complex driven obsession for the Yankees. I'm glad you've come to accept it. I got some news for you...just because no names have come out yet about your beloved Red Sox players doesn't mean you don't have a team full of cheaters too...I would bet all teams have a team full of cheaters if you were really honest with yourself in the fact that there are still 103 unnamed players on that list. If you prefer to live with your head in the sand then go for it....you'll just fit in nicely with all the other bitter spoiled sox fans who will be crying with their Pink hat wearing girlfriends when Big Papi goes down in a blaze of glory. Have fun when that happens.

The mods at the site are cool with it. Of course, there are Yankee fans who really hate the fact that he is there and make it known and get upset when the Red Sox Fans fawn over anything he has to say. Then there are people like me who understand that he has an uncontrollable urge to share everything little opinion he has in the hopes that everyone cares and don't let it bother them too much.

He was on a yankee site I visit the day the news broke (Saturday), sharing his opinions on arod and claiming he never has. Of course neither the Yankees or Red Sox Fans on the board could admit with full confidence that they could just blindly trust what he said...and he could understand.

Whatever Yankee fans did that are now looking pretty stupid...and it will be the same for any fan of any team who is claiming that their favorite past or present teams are completely clean. Bernie Williams is/was my favorite baseball player but I am not naive enough to make claims that he was incapable of being guilty while pointing the finger at others. The sad part is we'll never know who didn't take steriods because there will always be a cloud of suspicion over the players of the last 20 years and there will be no way to disprove it completely. A sad era for baseball.

All this self righteous gloating bullshit coming from certian "Red Sox Nation" fans is going to come back to haunt them when one of their beloved superstars eventually gets revealed as a juicer. It's only a matter of time. Do we then start topics questioning whether the Curse is still on and that the drought would be closing in on the century mark? In my opinion, this is about the well being of the overall game. I don't care for Arods personality but as a Yankee fan I rooted for him to play well. Now that he's an admitted juicer, everything he does will be called into question and rightly so. If this was Ortiz, Manny, Varitek, etc etc..I would still be wishing that it weren't true...rivalry be damned. It's sad that some Sox fans can't allow the recent 2 championships to help them get over their inferiority complex induced obsessions about the Yankees.

Unfortunately for you, your Cowboys are going to need a whole lot more then "magic" to win the superbowl anytime soon.

It's a good thing you cried like a baby to get yourself unbanned. You bring so much to the discussion. /sarcasm

Exactly. Now that this is settled, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If "the dog" is sincerely not Bad egg's second profile,which he probably is, then "the dog" has to be a Raiders, Lions, or Jets fan. It's gotta be something extremely embarrasing that would be used against him in every discussion that he was involved in on this board.

Your friend did a great job on this! Only thing I would suggest is lowering that music/laugh track a little bit in the first part of the video so we can hear the Cowchokes fans making asses out of themselves a little better but I still really enjoyed it. And props to New talent for taking his crow and giving the Giants the respect they deserve.

Ohh well. Bad Egg has left the building with no response. I guess we'll have to wait until something good happens for the Cowboys. Like an Eagles mercy killing of their season.

3 User(s) are reading this topic (0 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users) 3 Members: IntlGrounding, BadEgg, WolfA4 He's watching. I wonder if he posts so quickly in the wake of the embarrassment that is his team.

I'm getting flack from another Giants fan on a baseball message board for criticizing Gilbride for passing too much on a couple of 2nd down situations. His argument is that Gilbride's system won us a superbowl and got us to 12-3 this season so we have nothing to complain about.

Couldn't agree with you more. Especially the pistol whipping part.

Loud and Clear. The Passing on First Down has gone past the point of ridiculous. Not adjusting the playcalling due to the pass rush until past the halfway point in the 4th quarter is unforgivable.

I love how the resident Cowboy Troll has derailed this thread which is supposed to be about how TO is an embarrassment to the Cowboy organization and the pathetic drama they are engaging in. "TONY ROMO LIKES WHITTEN MORE THEN MEEEEEEE!!!! WAAAHHHHHH. MR GARRETT, MAKE TONY THROW ME THE BALL!!"

This is not surprising. Jay has picked against us the majority of this season and last. Only recently has he started giving the giants credit as being a good team, but he still picks against us for the most part.

I'm with you there. I'll take "bad Eli" if it means he leads the team to a 35-14 stomping of a Division Rival every week.