BlueInCanada

Coughlin just has to give him more playing time.

The difference between you and I, and how football players are treated or act in college are two vastly different worlds.

I don't care what it takes but somehow we need to get this woman and Dayne together.

I feel that since Spags defense is in the 4-2-5 nickle formation I would say 70% of the time in a game, that the team needs three starting CBs. DRC is one of the best in the game, he's been playing at a top 5 level. Jenkins is an up and down corner, he plays all pro some plays then gives up a big play the next, wish that JR didn't guarantee him as much as he did but if Jenkins can be coached up the Giants will have the best CB combo in the league. Apple fits into the equation due to the simple fact that outside of those two the Giants didnt have a single CB worth a damn on the roster IMO. Not to mention both DRC and Jenkins, are good to miss a game or two every season they needed someone to be able to come in a take on a teams #1 WR, that's what Apple can do. Plus he's young enough to take the reigns from DRC when he eventually leaves/retires. If Stanley or Conklin were sitting at 10, I'm sure JR would of been walking home with a shiny new Oline player, but the Titans had the picks to deal to go get Conklin. People can say what they want about Apple vs Hargraves but reading up on it, some had Apple higher then Hargraves, some had it the other way, who knows though in three years time the better player will be known. I hated the Apple pick, I think that was pretty obvious from the draft day thread, though it was reach and didnt have any intimidate impact. However after thinking about it, I don't know who the Giants would of taken a swing at 10 instead of a starting caliber CB. Maybe Tunsil but the Giants have a history of not wanting excess baggage with players, Lee is a scheme player I don't know what he would of fit into in a 4-3 in Spags defense. Maybe Lawson but then you have a guy that you need to decide he's either a DE or strong side LB who cant really play the pass. So the Giants went with a CB who has a crazy high ceiling and can learn from one of the best in the game DRC and contribute in Spags love of playing 5 secondary players on the field. DRC, Jenkins, Apple, Collins, Thompson to me sounds a lot better than DRC, Jenkins, Wade, Collins, whoever.

I would say Rolle is better then everyone on the team expect Collins and Thompson. Until Thompson is determined ready to play, which might even be day one, Rolle could start opposite of Collins until Thompson takes the torch. I mean I trust more in the secondary than Coop and Berhe

Wentz in a few years will be known as the better QB of the two. Shame that the Eagles got him, the last time they had a franchise QB it didnt work out to well for the Giants.

I honestly feel like the back end of the draft, Goodson, Adams and Perkins will start more than Apple, Shepard and Thompson this season. Apple will play but will be rotating in time in the nickle, Shepard has the best chance to start day one but needs to build up time with Eli. Thompson will rotate in for experience and play special teams. Goodson starts day one, either outside or he pushes Kennard outside, Adam is the most complete TE the Giants have and is right now the best blocker I can see him penciled in as a day one go, and Perkins will contribute in special teams and probably be used to rotate in for Vereen.

I'm sure the Giants would of loved Stanley or Conklin but they were gone. They werent gonna take another flyer on a pot head in Tunsil and there really wasn't any caliber OL in the second or third I think the Giants valued.

Honestly I don't think anyone on here hasnt admitted the fuck up JR has had these last four years.

On here?

This guy is a team captain and out performed almost every LB at pro day. People had him going in the third round as a eventual NFL starter. We got a steal in the fourth.

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/03/06/2016-nfl-draft-scouting-report-clemson-lb-b-j-goodson/ Good analysis of him. Some quotes

Cut up tape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCmBFaDjv6I

Third round LB in the fourth. Cant complain.

It's funny my final semester of college had a professor in Electrical Theory who always called people 'dude' and he's like a 60 something retired engineer who's designed electronics and control system for Boeing. Always reminded me of Bleedin.

Has any teams?

I'm falling more in love with the Apple pick, and the fact that I mocked Shepard to the Gints and they actually took him really made my night in round two. Not sure about Thomas, have done some reading on the guy, but I'll trust the Giants taken who they think will make the team better. Where did Bleedin go anyways? Did the P&R section finally go to far?

Is there such thing as a Resse apologist?

However with how the draft has gone (CB,WR,S) the Giants should go for any OL they have highest rated and whoever they can get for camp bodies, I imagine the famous late round LB pick and maybe a RB.

Who I have mocked in the final rounds.

To be fair I think a lot of people expect the Giants to make a playoff push. Honestly we are a team that has missed the playoffs four years in a row, with a new HC, OC and a DC who has been spotty at best. We have a team full of glaring holes. It's not a one year process, it's gonna take multiple years before the Giants are back to the playoffs. And that's not the cynic in me, it's a simple reality that JR/Whoever hasn't built a playoff caliber team and it wont be fixed in a off season.

I tried to read your post but after reading that I fucking lost it.

From the moment he was drafted he is the second best safety on the team.

Yeah seem like the kid can play the ball and cover in the secondary like no ones business, he just cant tackle to save his life. Wouldn't mind pairing him besides Collins who cant play the ball but can tackle like a LB. Solid pick since literally the only starting safety player on the team was Collins.