Mr. P Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 The New York State attorney general on Tuesday ordered the two biggest daily fantasy sports companies, DraftKings and FanDuel, to stop accepting bets in New York, saying that their games constituted illegal gambling under state law, according to people with knowledge of his investigation.The cease-and-desist order by the attorney general, Eric T. Schneiderman, is a major blow to a multibillion-dollar industry that introduced sports betting to legions of young sports fans and has formed partnerships with many of the nation’s professional sports teams. Given the New York attorney general’s historic role as a consumer-protection advocate, legal experts say the action will most likely reverberate in other states where legislators and investigators are increasingly questioning whether the industry should operate unfettered by regulations that govern legalized gambling.Fantasy sports companies contend that their games are not gambling because they involve more skill than luck and were legally sanctioned by a 2006 federal law that exempted fantasy sports from a prohibition against processing online financial wagering. That view is increasingly being challenged as fantasy sites have begun offering million-dollar prizes and bets on individual sports, such as golf, mixed martial arts and Nascar races, magnifying the element of chance and making the exemption more difficult to defend.Continue reading the main storyWired for ProfitIn 2006, Congress tried to crack down on illegal online sports betting. Today, Internet wagering is thriving, and a new business that resembles gambling, fantasy sports, is winning millions of players and stoking controversy. The Times, with the PBS series “Frontline,” investigated illegal gambling in the Internet age. On Tuesday afternoon, as news of the attorney general’s order began to trickle out, DraftKings sent an email to its players, saying, “Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is considering preventing New Yorkers from playing daily fantasy sports,” and added: “Hey, New York, protect your right to keep playing daily fantasy sports. Contact the attorney general today!”Sabrina Macias, a spokeswoman for DraftKings, said: “We’re disappointed he hasn’t taken the time to meet with us or ask any questions about our business model before his opinion.” She said the company had 500,000 users in New York State.In a statement, FanDuel said: “Fantasy sports is a game of skill and legal under New York state law. This is a politician telling hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers they are not allowed to play a game they love and share with friends, family, co-workers and players across the country.”The two companies can challenge the attorney general’s order in court. According to Joseph M. Kelly, a professor of business law at the State University College at Buffalo, the state would have to prove that chance is a material factor in fantasy sports, which would make it gambling.For much of the N.F.L. season, DraftKings and FanDuel have blanketed the airwaves with television advertising, spending more than $100 million each. Credit Justin Lane/European Pressphoto AgencyPlayers who bet on fantasy sports assemble their own teams of real pro athletes who compete based on their actual statistical performance in games. Mr. Schneiderman’s order does not apply to seasonal competitions or to other companies that offer fantasy games.By concluding that daily fantasy games constitute gambling, Mr. Schneiderman also directs an uncomfortable spotlight on some professional sports leagues that oppose gambling, yet maintain financial partnerships with these daily fantasy sports sites.A recent New York TimesNYT ref investigation reported that operators of online gambling sites had begun investing in fantasy companies and that some of DraftKings’ senior managers came from online gambling companies or were professional poker players.Mr. Schneiderman began investigating the fantasy sites after a DraftKings employee inadvertently released internal betting data and that same week won $350,000 on the rival site, FanDuel, which is based in New York. A representative of DraftKings denied that the employee used the internal data to gain an advantage. Both fantasy companies had allowed employees to bet on rival sites, but no longer do. Mr. Schneiderman asked the two companies for a range of internal data and details on how they prevent fraud.Continue reading the main storyBreaking News AlertsSign up to receive an email from The New York Times as soon as important news breaks around the world.Nevada regulators ruled last month that daily fantasy sports should be considered gambling, not games of skill, and ordered fantasy companies to suspend operations until they secured gaming licenses. A Florida grand jury has subpoenaed records of the fantasy sports trade group, The United States attorney in Manhattan has begun an investigation, and the F.B.I. office in Boston, where DraftKings’ offices are, has begun interviewing fantasy players.In addition, nearly a dozen states are considering some form of fantasy sports legislation, according to Gambling Compliance, an independent service that monitors gambling legislation.Mr. Schneiderman also found some daily fantasy ads misleading, according to the people with knowledge of his inquiryFor much of the N.F.L. season, DraftKings and FanDuel have blanketed the airwaves with television advertising, spending more than $100 million each, and consistently ranking among the top companies each week in buying airtime.Last September, FanDuel said it was signing up 20,000 to 30,000 players every day. Major League Baseball, the N.B.A. and companies like Comcast, NBC and Google are among its investors. Nearly every N.F.L. team has a sponsorship deal with DraftKings or FanDuel, and two powerful N.F.L. owners — Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys and Robert K. Kraft of the New England Patriots — have equity stakes in the companies.The National Council on Problem Gambling said it had received reports of “severe gambling problems” in some people who play daily fantasy sports, while noting that seasonal competitions with minimal prizes “offer little risk.” http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/11/sports/football/draftkings-fanduel-new-york-attorney-general-tells-fantasy-sites-to-stop-taking-bets-in-new-york.html?smid=tw-bna Glad I got in made my quick hundred bucks and got out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm about to withdraw right now and forget it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allstarjim Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 That's bullshit, change the law. I don't think they should cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 This guy is just looking for headlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 OK but how many casinos are being built in NY right now? How is OTB any different? NYS isn't getting any money from it and it's like sand in NY's governmental vagina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Funny they are only targeting FD AND DK yet Yahoo has DFS pop ups on their "regular" fantasy football site every week I set my line up the first thing that I get is a pop up to join yahoo DFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'll place bets for you guys. Just pay the vig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It's gambling and they aren't protecting their pools either. I'd bet serious money there is shady shit going on. I'm glad they got the govts attn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGL Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 All I know is that I withdrew. Unfortunately, I really was having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I got out the second these company's didn't show that they had protection software. They're gonna learn the hard way like the race tracks did. We already know there's insider trading going on and the Vegas sharps stay away for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 And this "game of skill" argument is horseshit. Handicapping football games involves skill. Poker involves skill. They're both still gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 yet somehow horsebetting and scratchoffs are legal gambling. they will find a way to tax it and then it will be legal. i hope they find a way to get it off the tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 agreed 100% it is not going anywhere but theyre gonna be regulated just like every other form of gambling when it is eventually legalized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Funny they are only targeting FD AND DK yet Yahoo has DFS pop ups on their "regular" fantasy football site every week I set my line up the first thing that I get is a pop up to join yahoo DFS. Yeah and I went to set a lineup for the free $1,000 game this weekend and after i make all my picks and go to set it............a popup that asks me to confirm I don't live in NV. So yeah, all DFF is banned out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Couldn't you try a a different IP through .https://www.hidemyass.com/proxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Couldn't you try a a different IP through .https://www.hidemyass.com/proxy I could, but considering how bad I am at regular FF, it's not worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Well if you would get in on the weekly DFS talk we have. You may get a little input and a tip or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxRik Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm not taking anyone's tip from on here, thank-you-very-much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lughead Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/draftkings-fanduel-lifeline-state-lawmakers-article-1.2459417 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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