Allstarjim Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I have to temper my enthusiasm, because we're just in preseason, and we have a ways to go before the play on the field really matters. But everything I'm reading in the practice reports and from what I've seen in the first preseason game, we have two pretty good young corners in Brian Witherspoon and Michael Coe. These two guys have really flashed, and I'm especially impressed with Witherspoon... who has been playing out of his mind. This would seem to me to be the deepest and most talented group of corners we've ever had. I'm really enthusiastic about Terrell Thomas, and of course, I think Webster is a top 5 corner in the NFL, and not many people know it. If Ross is healthy, he is a plus corner as well, going into a contract year. Then you have Amukamara, who hopefully will be healthy and playing at a high level late in the season for the stretch run. I hope that both Coe and Witherspoon are in the team's plans to make the 53 man roster... I think they are and would be surprised if either is cut. Take a look at them tonight. I have a feeling that Witherspoon is going to make a big play on MNF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I have to temper my enthusiasm, because we're just in preseason, and we have a ways to go before the play on the field really matters. But everything I'm reading in the practice reports and from what I've seen in the first preseason game, we have two pretty good young corners in Brian Witherspoon and Michael Coe. These two guys have really flashed, and I'm especially impressed with Witherspoon... who has been playing out of his mind. This would seem to me to be the deepest and most talented group of corners we've ever had. I'm really enthusiastic about Terrell Thomas, and of course, I think Webster is a top 5 corner in the NFL, and not many people know it. If Ross is healthy, he is a plus corner as well, going into a contract year. Then you have Amukamara, who hopefully will be healthy and playing at a high level late in the season for the stretch run. I hope that both Coe and Witherspoon are in the team's plans to make the 53 man roster... I think they are and would be surprised if either is cut. Take a look at them tonight. I have a feeling that Witherspoon is going to make a big play on MNF. Or it could be that our Passing game has sucked balls. How's that for a pessimism thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Witherspoon makes the team Without a doubt. He's got some skills and some blazing speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Witherspoon looked great last game, I'll be watching him again tonight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 And I think T2 and Webby are both top 15 NFL corners. We know Webby but T2 is elite at playmaking and tackling plus has very solid coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Reese BETTER resign T2 or else he will be a Cowboy next year. Same with Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Ross is gone next yer but on a contract year so he should at very well if history proves correct and hopefully prince is the real deal But not too good to the point that Reese fucks up and let's T2 walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 And I think T2 and Webby are both top 15 NFL corners. We know Webby but T2 is elite at playmaking and tackling plus has very solid coverage. TT is a horrible tackler. He couldn't wrap up a burrito. I've lost count of how many 1st downs he's given up after wiffing on tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBlue Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Witherspoon has looked good, but I think the man to watch is Coe. He seems to always be at the right place at the right time and has made a lot of noise in camp and with Prince nursing injuries, I think he has a good shot at sticking. I also want to see how Beatty is coming along. Both Osi and JPP have worked him over and "they" say he's getting good. Hopefully he becomes the stud LT we need. Also.....hopefully tonight we'll actually tackle guys to the ground instead of pretending its flag football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 TT is a horrible tackler. He couldn't wrap up a burrito. I've lost count of how many 1st downs he's given up after wiffing on tackles. Dude that's absurd. Absolutely absurd! Do you watch the games??? T2 is an elite tackler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Dude that's absurd. Absolutely absurd! Do you watch the games??? T2 is an elite tackler. Did you watch LAST game. He did it again; could have dropped the receiver for negative yards and instead threw his body at the guy's legs, bounced off and gave up a 1st down. I does it all the time. "Elite tackler" my ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Did you watch LAST game. He did it again; could have dropped the receiver for negative yards and instead threw his body at the guy's legs, bounced off and gave up a 1st down. I does it all the time. "Elite tackler" my ass! Dude REGuLAR SEASON games!! Lol I'm not basing his elite tackling after a preseason game in which they all had 8 practices for. Cmon man every true giants fan know T2 can tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 TT is a horrible tackler. He couldn't wrap up a burrito. I've lost count of how many 1st downs he's given up after wiffing on tackles. Are you sure you dont mean Ross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Dude REGuLAR SEASON games!! Lol I'm not basing his elite tackling after a preseason game in which they all had 8 practices for. Cmon man every true giants fan know T2 can tackle. He's been doing it for years, last game was just an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Are you sure you dont mean Ross? Ross does the same thing, they both wiffed last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 He's been doing it for years, last game was just an example. You obviously don't watch the games T2 is among the best tacklers in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Prime example... http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=ipd-22ozOuI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 You obviously don't watch the games T2 is among the best tacklers in the game. LOL! Yeah, I hang out on a Giants board all day and just make shit up rather than watching the actual games. Do you know the difference between tackling, grappling and hitting? I don't think you do. TT consistently gives up unnecessary yardage due to poor technique, especially in head-on situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Lol watch the video. 9 out of 10 Giants fans that watch every game Would say they are more then happy with T2s Tackling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 87% of statistics are made up on the spot. I can't watch youtube vids at work, I'll pick the shit out of it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Ok that first part I just don't understand and yes watch the Video and try your hardest to criticize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 LOL! Yeah, I hang out on a Giants board all day and just make shit up rather than watching the actual games. Do you know the difference between tackling, grappling and hitting? I don't think you do. TT consistently gives up unnecessary yardage due to poor technique, especially in head-on situations. LMAO!!! That was hilarious. Although I dont normally agree with Osi and disagree with you, Im siding a little bit more with him on this one Tree. You think TT is a horrible tackler? I dont think hes that bad. His ball awareness and pickoff ability are his strengths, but hes a good tackler IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBLUE01 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Ok that first part I just don't understand and yes watch the Video and try your hardest to criticize it. Now THAT was even funnier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 LMAO!!! That was hilarious. Although I dont normally agree with Osi and disagree with you, Im siding a little bit more with him on this one Tree. You think TT is a horrible tackler? I dont think hes that bad. His ball awareness and pickoff ability are his strengths, but hes a good tackler IMO. I think TT could be much more effective against the short pass if he improved his technique at the point of contact. He reads the play very well, often meeting the receiver before the line of scrimmage even, but fails to wrap up and bring the man down. He tries to throw his body at the opponent rather than getting his shoulder into their mid-section, arms around the thighs and driving with his legs. This often result in the opponent bouncing off and gaining more yards. He's quite often the first to make contact but its someone else who brings him down, further down field and often past the first down marker. Watch Troy Polamalu or old Kavika Mitchell footage for proper technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osi724dasack Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Dude when you watch the video he displays PERFECT Technique. Polamalu and Mitchell got 20-50 pounds on T2 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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