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Round 1: Antonio Cromartie (if Sims is gone)

He is an incredibly gifted athlete, who is 6-3 210 and runs a sub 4.4. He had a 41 inch vert and has excellent ball skills. He may need some time to develop though since he only played 2 years in college. Everyone thinks that if he stayed one more year he could have been a top 10 pick. He is coming off an injury but judging by his combine he looks 100%. This team could use a great talent in our secondary with good ball skills.

 

Round 2 : Orien Harris (DT)

Lacks elitebulk as a 2 gap DT, but is thickly built and has plenty of strength to still become a very good DT. He is not very athletic but is very quick and very strong. He is a beast against the run and will get a good amount of sacks. I consider him one of the more underated players in this years draft.

 

Round 3: Brandon Johnson (OLB)

He is very tall at 6-5 but is light at 230. He has extremely good speed and rare athletic ability for a LB that tall. He ran the 40 in 4.47 seconds. Has good quickness and makes plays sideline to sideline. Takes good angles, will tip a lot of passes when blitzing and will get to the QB a lot. Is very good in coverage and in the run game. He has very good ball skills. His only problem is that he doesnt always play at a consistent level and will shy away from some contact and will take a play off here and there. It is a stretch to take him in round 3...but I like him.

 

Round 4: Johny Jolly (DT)

Is a huge man at 6-3 320 and is a excellent two gao player who can play NT as well. A very high energy player who gives a ton of effort and gets a good jump on the snap every play. He is excellent in run D and will not get many sacks at all, but rushes the QB all the time. He tends to play high at times and does not have very good stamina.

 

Round 5: T.J. Williams (TE, FB, H-Back)

Is versatile and is a H-Back type of guy. He is a good athlete, has great instincts and is extremely reliable when catching the ball. This is the guy that this offense has been missing. He reminds me a lot of Chris Cooley. This is a guy that I am hoping EA will draft, and he is a sure pick who will definately be able to contribute right away. he is big to at 6-3 270.

 

Round 6: Mike Kudla (if he makes it this far)

He is as strong as you can possibly be at 265. He had 45 REPS AT THE COMBINE!!!! He is so strong and is pretty fast to with a 4.75 40 time. Is a very hard hitter and will force some fumbles. He lacks some quickness though. Is short at 6-1. He would be a steal in round 6.

 

Round 7: Reggie Bush :LMAO: or Javon Nanton is Bush is no loner here.

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Brandon Johnson in the third would be a HUGE reach...he will likely fall into the second day. There is no reason to take two defensive tackles. Please tell us who the hell Javon Nanton is....position,measurables, mother's maiden name....give us something. Cromartie would be a great pick, but sadly for us, i don't see him reaching 25. Mike Kudla is a DE if im not mistaken....and we do not need to be using our draft picks on defensive end.

 

Otherwise...not bad

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I think you could bump picks 2-6 down a spot, roughly. Orie Harris should be available in the third and Johnson in the fouth. Other than that pretty good. Im a Cromartie fan if available. In the second I like a LB if we get Cromartie.

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Round 1: Antonio Cromartie (if Sims is gone)

He is an incredibly gifted athlete, who is 6-3 210 and runs a sub 4.4. He had a 41 inch vert and has excellent ball skills. He may need some time to develop though since he only played 2 years in college. Everyone thinks that if he stayed one more year he could have been a top 10 pick. He is coming off an injury but judging by his combine he looks 100%. This team could use a great talent in our secondary with good ball skills.

 

Round 2 : Orien Harris (DT)

Lacks elitebulk as a 2 gap DT, but is thickly built and has plenty of strength to still become a very good DT. He is not very athletic but is very quick and very strong. He is a beast against the run and will get a good amount of sacks. I consider him one of the more underated players in this years draft.

 

Round 3: Brandon Johnson (OLB)

He is very tall at 6-5 but is light at 230. He has extremely good speed and rare athletic ability for a LB that tall. He ran the 40 in 4.47 seconds. Has good quickness and makes plays sideline to sideline. Takes good angles, will tip a lot of passes when blitzing and will get to the QB a lot. Is very good in coverage and in the run game. He has very good ball skills. His only problem is that he doesnt always play at a consistent level and will shy away from some contact and will take a play off here and there. It is a stretch to take him in round 3...but I like him.

 

Round 4: Johny Jolly (DT)

Is a huge man at 6-3 320 and is a excellent two gao player who can play NT as well. A very high energy player who gives a ton of effort and gets a good jump on the snap every play. He is excellent in run D and will not get many sacks at all, but rushes the QB all the time. He tends to play high at times and does not have very good stamina.

 

Round 5: T.J. Williams (TE, FB, H-Back)

Is versatile and is a H-Back type of guy. He is a good athlete, has great instincts and is extremely reliable when catching the ball. This is the guy that this offense has been missing. He reminds me a lot of Chris Cooley. This is a guy that I am hoping EA will draft, and he is a sure pick who will definately be able to contribute right away. he is big to at 6-3 270.

 

Round 6: Mike Kudla (if he makes it this far)

He is as strong as you can possibly be at 265. He had 45 REPS AT THE COMBINE!!!! He is so strong and is pretty fast to with a 4.75 40 time. Is a very hard hitter and will force some fumbles. He lacks some quickness though. Is short at 6-1. He would be a steal in round 6.

 

Round 7: Reggie Bush :LMAO: or Javon Nanton is Bush is no loner here.

 

 

Personal Mock drafts are better suited for our pre-teen fans on the Giant.com board (notice how on the personal mocks the individual always gets his 7 favortie college palyers as the other "pretend" GMs are always dopes). Please take your little pretend-GM lists and designated youth section. In a matter of a just a few year you can join us here on the adult board.

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Round 1: Antonio Cromartie (if Sims is gone)

He is an incredibly gifted athlete, who is 6-3 210 and runs a sub 4.4. He had a 41 inch vert and has excellent ball skills. He may need some time to develop though since he only played 2 years in college. Everyone thinks that if he stayed one more year he could have been a top 10 pick. He is coming off an injury but judging by his combine he looks 100%. This team could use a great talent in our secondary with good ball skills.

 

I like this kid alot, He would be perfict for some of the bigger receivers in our Div (TO)

Only thing I dont like is the inj. part....This team has had too many injury problems in the past and I cant see us using a 1st on a guy who already had knee surgery

 

I like Tye Hill, He should last...Teams are worred about his size....Kinda Like Bobby Sanders a few years a go

 

ESPN Insider

 

Tye Hill grade 93 4.38

Strengths: Is a track star turned DC. Has blazing speed and is the fastest DC in this class. He has extremely fluid hips. Can turn and run vertically with any WR in the NFL. Is extremely quick in his back pedal. He has explosive closing burst and can make up a lot of ground when the ball is in the air. Shows very quick feet and good lateral movement skills. He has good leaping ability (39-inch vertical) and will challenge for the jump ball. Is tough for his size. Won't back down from a challenge. His ball skills continue to improve. He's doing a better job of finding the ball in the air and adjusting to it. Is also a threat on the return if he gets daylight. He will fill hard vs. the run. Lacks size but has decent strength and is a fundamentally sound tackler.

 

Weaknesses: Lacks great experience at the position. Has made huge strides in terms of technique and recognition skills but still is too inconsistent and needs more polish. He is undersized. Lacks height and bulk. Has developed into a good run-support DC, but will occasionally get run over by bigger backs. He will have trouble matching up against bigger WR's in the NFL and may never be more than a slot-corner, as a result.

 

Antonio Cromartie grade 85 4.44

Strengths: Possesses an outstanding combination of size and top-end speed. He is tall with long arms and very good leaping ability. Shows the ability to smother WR's in press coverage and redirect their routes. He is fluid for his size and is able to flip his hips when turning and running vertically. He shows outstanding ball skills and is a natural playmaker. Will challenge for the ball in traffic and shows strong hands. He has good size and strength in run support. A versatile athlete; he has spent time at WR and also flashes a lot of upside as a return specialist.

 

Weaknesses: Durability is the biggest concern following knee injury in July of 2005. He has been out of football for more than a year. Lacks ideal playing experience and he has never shown great technique. He has lots of room to improve in terms of anticipating routes, reading opposing QB's eyes in zone coverage and finding the ball when turned around.

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Brandon Johnson in the third would be a HUGE reach...he will likely fall into the second day. There is no reason to take two defensive tackles. Please tell us who the hell Javon Nanton is....position,measurables, mother's maiden name....give us something. Cromartie would be a great pick, but sadly for us, i don't see him reaching 25. Mike Kudla is a DE if im not mistaken....and we do not need to be using our draft picks on defensive end.

 

Otherwise...not bad

 

I'll tell you what, I think Kudla would be a brilliant pick, although he won't make it to the 6th round, let alone to us in the 6th round. But if he's around in the 4th, he'd be a great pick. He's the type of player who can probably play DE or DT with his strength, and he'd be great depth in case one of our DE's get hurt, and with Strahan getting up there in age, he's be a great backup behind Tuck and Osi for a few years.

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Brandon Johnson will probably go in the 4th, so taking him in the 3rd is not that big of a reach.

 

If healthy, Cromartie is a far superior player to Tye Hill.

 

And his injury seems to be healed or at least on its way to being 100%. Its highly unlikely that Hill would be able to leapfrog Webster, Deloach, McQuarters and Peterson for the starting job so Id be more inclined to take the more talented player as long as his injury seems to have no long-term effects.

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Brandon Johnson will probably go in the 4th, so taking him in the 3rd is not that big of a reach.

 

If healthy, Cromartie is a far superior player to Tye Hill.

I really like what I hear about Johnson...I never saw him play, but from what I have read he is a great athlete who just needs to add some bulk and motivate himself a little more

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Brandon Johnson will probably go in the 4th, so taking him in the 3rd is not that big of a reach.

 

If healthy, Cromartie is a far superior player to Tye Hill.

 

I agree, but do we want to take a risk on a guy who had a knee injury in the past?

 

If he is there in the second then yes take him but not with a first...We need a CB to play next to Webster not sit beside Peterson

 

But yes when healthy he is a better player then Hill

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Yes, you take the risk. Gamble on greatness....one injury does not make a guy injury prone. Plus, he wouldn't be expected to contribute thsi year since there would be 3-4 CBs ahead of him on the depth chart.

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I agree, but do we want to take a risk on a guy who had a knee injury in the past?

 

If he is there in the second then yes take him but not with a first...We need a CB to play next to Webster not sit beside Peterson

 

But yes when healthy he is a better player then Hill

 

First of all, any CB we draft will be sitting beside Peterson. We signed Madison to be our starting CB w/ Webster for the near future. Any CB draftee will be given ample to time to practice and adjust to the NFL before they are thrown onto the field... unlike Websters rookie year.

 

That said we do take the risk. With the advancements in medicine lately, its rare to have a very serious injury that never heals. Take Mcgahee's knee for example. I think anyone who saw that game and the 487 replays of his knee imploding would say that they thought there was a great chance that he would never play again. Last year he proved that he's returned to top form and his running over defenses again. Cromarties injury was a simple ACL tear. While this used to be a devastating injury, players routinely make 100% recoveries now given ample time to rehab. Since he won't be a starter for us he should be near 100% sometime in the next year. Cromartie is a much more talented player than Hill and since this pick would be a long-term solution we go with the better player and that is Cromartie by a lot.

 

That said, we're not going to draft a CB with the first pick unless Cromartie is available and EA thinks that he's the BPA by a lot. I also think some team will gamble on Cromartie and he'll be gone before our pick. I also don't see us passing up on the talented group of LB's in the first round unless there's a player too good to pass up.

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First of all, any CB we draft will be sitting beside Peterson. We signed Madison to be our starting CB w/ Webster for the near future. Any CB draftee will be given ample to time to practice and adjust to the NFL before they are thrown onto the field... unlike Websters rookie year.

 

That said we do take the risk. With the advancements in medicine lately, its rare to have a very serious injury that never heals. Take Mcgahee's knee for example. I think anyone who saw that game and the 487 replays of his knee imploding would say that they thought there was a great chance that he would never play again. Last year he proved that he's returned to top form and his running over defenses again. Cromarties injury was a simple ACL tear. While this used to be a devastating injury, players routinely make 100% recoveries now given ample time to rehab. Since he won't be a starter for us he should be near 100% sometime in the next year. Cromartie is a much more talented player than Hill and since this pick would be a long-term solution we go with the better player and that is Cromartie by a lot.

 

That said, we're not going to draft a CB with the first pick unless Cromartie is available and EA thinks that he's the BPA by a lot. I also think some team will gamble on Cromartie and he'll be gone before our pick. I also don't see us passing up on the talented group of LB's in the first round unless there's a player too good to pass up.

 

Not that I'm debating your overall point but McGahee had a terrible year last season.

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This mock seems far to driven by position of need.

 

Except that CB is no longer a position of need. Given the signings of Madison and Mcquarters, I believe the following are a greater need: 2 LB's, 2 DT's, WR, SS. If we select on need alone the draft would go something like this:

1. Lawson LB

2. Wroten DT

3. Orr WR

4. Dvoacek DT

5. Threat S

6. Johnson LB

7. Lawrence Taylor LB

 

Im not saying thats going to happen, or even close.... its just a mock based on need alone. That said, I think we have to go DT or LB in the first. Those are the only two positions which a rookie will have a chance of helping us this year. Given how close to the Giants are to being SB contenders they need players to contribute now.

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Except that CB is no longer a position of need. Given the signings of Madison and Mcquarters, I believe the following are a greater need: 2 LB's, 2 DT's, WR, SS. If we select on need alone the draft would go something like this:

1. Lawson LB

2. Wroten DT

3. Orr WR

4. Dvoacek DT

5. Threat S

6. Johnson LB

7. Lawrence Taylor LB

 

Im not saying thats going to happen, or even close.... its just a mock based on need alone. That said, I think we have to go DT or LB in the first. Those are the only two positions which a rookie will have a chance of helping us this year. Given how close to the Giants are to being SB contenders they need players to contribute now.

 

I gotta disagree with you here. Right now, the teams greatest needs are at LB and DT, although I don't see why we need 2. I don't see how you can list WR as a greater need than CB. If anything, we have a ton of depth at both positions, only the talent at the WR position is much stronger than at cornerback.

 

We've also got at least 4 players who can play the safety position, so I wouldn't constitute that as a major need either.

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I'll be amazed if Manny Lawson ends up a NY Giant. His skill set translates to a 3-4 outside backer position. He wouldn't do as well in a 4-3. Granted the Giants have taken tweeners before (Torbor) but given the need for instant return at the position, there will likley be better options available in round 1

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Round 1: Antonio Cromartie (if Sims is gone)

He is an incredibly gifted athlete, who is 6-3 210 and runs a sub 4.4. He had a 41 inch vert and has excellent ball skills. He may need some time to develop though since he only played 2 years in college. Everyone thinks that if he stayed one more year he could have been a top 10 pick. He is coming off an injury but judging by his combine he looks 100%. This team could use a great talent in our secondary with good ball skills.

 

Round 2 : Orien Harris (DT)

Lacks elitebulk as a 2 gap DT, but is thickly built and has plenty of strength to still become a very good DT. He is not very athletic but is very quick and very strong. He is a beast against the run and will get a good amount of sacks. I consider him one of the more underated players in this years draft.

 

Round 3: Brandon Johnson (OLB)

He is very tall at 6-5 but is light at 230. He has extremely good speed and rare athletic ability for a LB that tall. He ran the 40 in 4.47 seconds. Has good quickness and makes plays sideline to sideline. Takes good angles, will tip a lot of passes when blitzing and will get to the QB a lot. Is very good in coverage and in the run game. He has very good ball skills. His only problem is that he doesnt always play at a consistent level and will shy away from some contact and will take a play off here and there. It is a stretch to take him in round 3...but I like him.

 

Round 4: Johny Jolly (DT)

Is a huge man at 6-3 320 and is a excellent two gao player who can play NT as well. A very high energy player who gives a ton of effort and gets a good jump on the snap every play. He is excellent in run D and will not get many sacks at all, but rushes the QB all the time. He tends to play high at times and does not have very good stamina.

 

Round 5: T.J. Williams (TE, FB, H-Back)

Is versatile and is a H-Back type of guy. He is a good athlete, has great instincts and is extremely reliable when catching the ball. This is the guy that this offense has been missing. He reminds me a lot of Chris Cooley. This is a guy that I am hoping EA will draft, and he is a sure pick who will definately be able to contribute right away. he is big to at 6-3 270.

 

Round 6: Mike Kudla (if he makes it this far)

He is as strong as you can possibly be at 265. He had 45 REPS AT THE COMBINE!!!! He is so strong and is pretty fast to with a 4.75 40 time. Is a very hard hitter and will force some fumbles. He lacks some quickness though. Is short at 6-1. He would be a steal in round 6.

 

Round 7: Reggie Bush :LMAO: or Javon Nanton is Bush is no loner here.

 

 

I like your first round pick. I think 2nd and 3rd are both a round too early. Jolly is a decent pick for a 4th rounder. I dont like your 5th round pick at all. Mike Kudla wont be around in the 6th, he is most likely goin in the 4th but I wouldnt be surprised if he goes in the 3rd. No comment on round 7.

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I gotta disagree with you here. Right now, the teams greatest needs are at LB and DT, although I don't see why we need 2. I don't see how you can list WR as a greater need than CB. If anything, we have a ton of depth at both positions, only the talent at the WR position is much stronger than at cornerback.

 

We've also got at least 4 players who can play the safety position, so I wouldn't constitute that as a major need either.

 

Talent is much better at WR than at corner? Lets break it down. You need 3 starters at each, 2 regulars and nickel/slot.

 

1. Madison vs. Plax -- Push. Madison is a probowler but Plax is younger

2. Webster vs. Amani -- Amani. Although for not much longer. Webser is talented and an up and coming guy whereas Amani is in the twilight years.

3. McQuarters vs. Carter --- McQuarters. Hes actually played in the NFL.

4. Deloach vs. Taylor --- Push. Both young w/ potential.

5. Walker vs. Tyree --- Walker. Walker's got potential and shows that he can be a good CB if he cuts down on mistakes. Tyree has shown nothing whatsoever in terms of his being a decent WR.

 

So its pretty close in terms of quality although I think CB's are a bit more solid than WR, especially since there is the chance that Will P returns at some point in the next year or two. And the top 3 CB's are more consistent than the top 3 WR's. Id argue that there is more talent at CB than WR.

 

Why do we need 2 LB's? Have you already forgotten what happened last year? And we've lost LB's since then. We dont NEED a second DT, but I think a mid round DT has a better chance of making the field than a mid round CB does. 4th round DT ends up being our 4th or 5th whereas a CB is 6th on the depth chart.

 

I think CB and S are comparable in terms of need.

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Talent is much better at WR than at corner? Lets break it down. You need 3 starters at each, 2 regulars and nickel/slot.

 

1. Madison vs. Plax -- Push. Madison is a probowler but Plax is younger

2. Webster vs. Amani -- Amani. Although for not much longer. Webser is talented and an up and coming guy whereas Amani is in the twilight years.

3. McQuarters vs. Carter --- McQuarters. Hes actually played in the NFL.

4. Deloach vs. Taylor --- Push. Both young w/ potential.

5. Walker vs. Tyree --- Walker. Walker's got potential and shows that he can be a good CB if he cuts down on mistakes. Tyree has shown nothing whatsoever in terms of his being a decent WR.

 

So its pretty close in terms of quality although I think CB's are a bit more solid than WR, especially since there is the chance that Will P returns at some point in the next year or two. And the top 3 CB's are more consistent than the top 3 WR's. Id argue that there is more talent at CB than WR.

 

Why do we need 2 LB's? Have you already forgotten what happened last year? And we've lost LB's since then. We dont NEED a second DT, but I think a mid round DT has a better chance of making the field than a mid round CB does. 4th round DT ends up being our 4th or 5th whereas a CB is 6th on the depth chart.

 

I think CB and S are comparable in terms of need.

 

I am sorry but this is like apples and oranges here...

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