BadEgg

You are comparing THIS SEASON'S stats? I honestly did not want to compare these stats because it is UNFAIR TO MANNING. Seriously, as Fishguts has pointed out in many threads, the Cowboys... HAVE NO OFFENSIVE LINE AND NO RECEIVERS So everything Romo is doing he is essentially doing by himself.

And Tony Romo has a better completion percentage and overall QB rating. Less fumbles and INT's too. Just sayin... By the way, almost every OC starts the game off trying to figure out what works. But we didn't call Joe Montana streaky, did we? And Peyton? I don't think so. And lets not even bring Tom "4 ints against Buffalo" Brady into this discussion. Eli's inconsistent. And the fact that he is often inaccurate is what has prevented him, and will continue to prevent him, from being "elite."

BB, do you google your mom jokes or do they just roll off your tongue/fingers with little effort?

Easily the most entertaining post every on this board. I am laughing so hard that I cannot even muster the energy to address it. I''ll let it play out and see where it goes. I'm also guessing that Archie and Peyton came up with this so-called report because I imagine they have a lot of time on their hands. Or maybe it was the superfan...

I thought that at first too. But then I pictured the QB audbeling to a run and sending everyone directly at your franchise WR. Or shifting or motioning to get a more favorable matchup. There would be alot that you would have to teach the WR playing defense.

At this stage of the game, I'm not arguing with your QB rankings. But to put things in perspective, if Eli was a Superbowl MVP QB yesterday (assuming he can be one without the guy that caught the ball with his helmet) then we should put Cam Newton in the Hall of Fame today. Afterall, he hung 422 on that shut-down Cards defensive backfield. And he did it with only 1 real WR. In fact, while were at it, let's put the Panthers and the Giants in the NFC Championship, since beating the Cards in the last minute, or at least coming close like the Panthers did, seems to be the measuring stick in the NFC.

Fishy, you are losing your composure here. What are you babbling about now? I have not defended the Cowboys. I picked them to lose to the better team. They did. No excuses. I wouldn't call the O embarrassing. Its more like they made embarrassing mistakes. But it's like you Giants fans have this Rodney Dangerfield low self-esteem thing going on. You desperately need credit. No, the Giants really have not beaten a good team. And yes, right now, the Eagles are not good. Other Giants fans see this. So. I'm not going to give you the cookie you so desperately beg for. Deal with it, man. Deal with it.

We'll see, Jack. The Cowboys can rush the passer and do better against smaller WRs. The NE pass rush has not been great. If Austin is back, I think both teams go over 30 and at that point anything can happen.

I'm almost speachless... Carefully here, Osi. Your fellow fans may make you turn in your jersey and burn off any Giants tatoos you may have on your skin -- like they do on Sons of Anarchy.

The Italian Hotdog, like most Giants fans, is not living in reality. If you are 1-3 you are a bad football team. What is the Cardnal's record? 1-3, you say? Welcome to the bottom of the barrel. I guess you can brag that you are 1 game better than the Rams. But you certainly aren't good. Maybe we go in the middle and say mediocre, like the Giants. I don't know. If you mean that the Cowboys are not "real" as in a Superbowl contender, I know of very few people, including myself, that made that argument at the beginning of the season. Head Coach's first full season. New DC and new system. Didn't add anything to their weakest unit in the offseason -- the defense. Re-tooled their offensive line with young guys. But I will be open minded the rest of the way because much can change as the season wears on and the Cowboys are playing a little better than I anticipated. As far as Romo goes, he is not blameless, but he is not entirely at fault either. Unlike you people, I don't live in dreamworld year in and year out. The Giants have not accomplished anything and of course you feel good about Seattle. Rutgers would feel good about Seattle. But, this is the Giants, and I would not be surprised to see them lose at least one of the next two. That being said, I believe if Miles Austing is back, the Cowboys will beat NE. That's right. I said a loss to Detriot and a win in NE. They match up better to NE.

What has changed since Friday? The Cowboys lost to a better Detriot team, just like I said they would. And the Giants struggled with another mediocre team. Nothing new here. The Giants have beaten teams with a combined record of 2 wins. And were dominated by the only winning team they have played. And the Lions are better than all of them. But, by all means, keep dreaming...

It does. I especially love the part where Eli say he's not worried about the numbers. That may be true. But what is also true is that he should not and, more importantly, cannot worry about the numbers. Because... He does not have the skills to put up the big numbers on a consistent basis. It's not that he chooses not to do it for the sake of the team. It's that he just can't do it. Which is fine. It just means that the defense and the other skills players (see Victor Cruz last week) must make up for Eli's short comings or what you end up with is Week 1 in Washington, and an extra TD that the poor Giants defense did not give up. The criticism that his teamates whine about has been earned. The simple fact is that you cannot criticize Brady or the good Manning consistently for the same mistakes Eli makes because they do not make those mistakes as often as Eli. The simple fact is that he sould not be making some of these mistakes at this juncture of his career with the players he has around him. Just throw the damn ball over the defensive lineman's hands, son. So Eli is right. He should be himself and rely on his teammates. Because if he tries to be something he is not, he will cost them games.

Good to see you come out on top of the Garfield debate. I've been waiting for over 5 years to see you win something, Elias.

I'm with you. Don't know much about them, I don't think they run the ball consistently though. So maybe you can get to Stafford or at least confuse him.

I agree with this. I think I said as much earlier. Anything can happen but right now, Detriot is better.

Honestly, look through these threads and see how much shit I talk about the Cowboys. I'm very reasonable when it comes to analyzing them. I get in trouble around here when I try to get you people to stop drinking the koolaid.

Most of these so-called analysts also believe that the Rams handed the game to the Giants. The Rams suck. Quite honestly, the Giants did not look very good against the Rams. I can't remember many people being overly impressed with the Giants that night. The fans that were booing in the Meadowlands weren't. So the Giants look mediocre for two straight weeks. Actually, flat out bad week 1 and mediocre week 2. Then they go into Philly. Nobody covers Jacobs. Easy TD. Nobody tackles all 120 pounds of Cruz. TD. Vick gets hurt. And Fat Andy goes for it on 4th down when he should have punted. And this is improvement. For all we know, at the end of the year, the so-called dream team may be a 7-9 team. I don't know if I would hang my hat on the improvement theory just yet.

What are you on crack? Tempered expectations? And I remembered you as being reasonable. As I said earlier, I did not view the Cowboys as a playoff team when the season began. As of today, I think they are as good as anyone in the East. So we'll see as the season progresses. But your ranting about the Cowboys offense is ridiculous. I'm not big on statitstics but through 3 weeks they're like 5th in the league in yards per game while the Giants are like 20. The Giants have scored 2 points more than the Cowboys. They made the Jets look silly for 3 1/2 quarters. So don't talk to me about offense. Dez will heal. Felix will heal. Austin will come back. The offense will be fine. The more you post the more credibility you lose. Your rants give little respect to the Redskins and that is wrong. I mean, after all, you think you would give their defense some measure of respect given what they did to the Giants in week 1. Take off the blue and red goggles and really look at that game. Instead, you make pathetic excuses. As a Cowboys fan I say hats off to the Redskins defense. A hard-hitting, talented, athletic unit. As well coached as any. I think the Redskins defense will keep them in the thick of things. And I'm happy that Romo and the Cowboys stole a game from them. I guess it sucks that you can't say the same thing.

Jack is on ignore too? Come on, man. We're not that bad. In fact, I'm the most reasonable person in the room.

Not arguments here. I think I described them exactly the same way in another thread. I normally don't like the early bye weeks but it is coming at the right time this season.

Catostophic meltdown of historic proportion. Deal with it. The last time I saw something like that on the football field was... Several years ago...in Candlestick...when Jeff Garcia lead the 49ers came back from the dead and defeated...

Your WRs didn't know where to line up. Your center blew 4 snaps, including a couple with Romo directly over him. I'm not blaming Garrett, but I wouldn't exactly say your coaching staff did a bang-up job getting those guys ready to play. That's on the offensive staff, and you have to be the biggest homer in the world to think that was acceptable work getting those guys ready to play. But don't take my word for it--watch the reaction your QB had to the situation during and after the game. He wasn't exactly all smiles now, was he? I think Kitna is a decent QB. Not great, not a full-time starter. I thought he was good even before he joined the Lions, let alone your team. But I wouldn't put him on the field on one week's notice with the clown car WRs you foisted into Monday's game. Apparently, the Cowboys should put their offensive plays in an audio book, because your wide receivers obviously didn't or couldn't read it. And no, I don't think it was the brightest idea to let a guy get on the field with a punctured lung, and no running game to speak of. Broken ribs, ok, that's been done, and so long as it's well-protected, it should be ok. But a punctured lung is just reckless--and for what? Entertainment shouldn't have a body count, and it's irresponsible to even take that chance. The sick part of all this is I was actually hoping you guys would win, because I'd rather be in a tie for first than all alone in second. I will never make that mistake again. [/quote And if you insist about comparing a wk1 game to your wk3 fiasco, let's do just that. Because of weather conditions, we played 2 preseason games and a regular season game within a two-week span. Three games, two weeks--and we lost a week of practice between the 3rd and 4th preseason games. And during that span, we lost a boatload of players to injured reserve, with precious little time to adjust--you want to compare that to the joke of a depth chart you put on the field Monday in WEEK 3? Sorry, man. You lost me right here. This is bad, even for a Giants fan. The MOTHER of all excuses -- we played too many games and we lost practice time. Throw in a "boatload" of injuries to boot. Creative. Sad. It hurts, I know. The Cowboys won the game and are in first place. They won the game despite that depth chart, despite mass confusion on the o-line and despite a group of WR that had no idea what they were doing and a WR who was playing on 1 leg. And they played their best football in the fourt quarter. When they had too. The Giants were shut out by the Redskins in the second half. Did they even convert a 3rd down? And they had a healthy Manning. They had Nicks. They had Jacobs. They had Bradshaw. I believe they had Manningahm. And they couldn't even get a field goal. Meanwhile, Grossman rings them up for 300 yards. Think about that. And a 100 yard game from Fred Davis, the TE version of Jerry Rice. Davis will be good, no doubt. But the Giants have issues. Sorry, they do. They played too many games = excuse. They couldn't practice = excuse. Injuries = excuse. The Cowboys were injured Monday night. Half the league is. Vick wasn't around in the fourth and we all know what he can do in the fourth. The Giants don't look good this season. TC will probably be canned at the end of the year and you'll be starting over. Your QB won't be run out of town because they can't. But what can you do? Relax man, and enjoy the season. You beat the dream team and have the Cardnals next week. Times are good.

True...6 years...that's quite a tradition...makes the NY Yankees and their so-called "storied history" look irrelevant.

I also thinks its realistic the Cowboys win 9. The defensive backfield has issues. The line is much better than you give them credit for, but still a work in progress. But when the season started I thought the Cowboys, without a doubt, were on the outside looking in as far as playoffs go. But now, looking at the rest of the NFC East, its wide open. And your kidding yourself if you think the Giants are winning more than 10.