NightFire

I think Seattle proved that running and a good defense does win championships still.

Pro Football Focus I think it's called. I don't use it but I have seen Herc post the grades before. They grade players by position and I think they have a lot of stats. As Fish pointed out though getting all the nuanced variables is something you'd want to do for a paycheck because of work involved. I would say impact on team is the greatest measure of draft success. Hard to quantify that exactly is though.

But...but Coughlin said he would fix all what ailes the Giants. It's just in the player's head right.

He doesn't return everytime though if I remember right. I don't know all his games but on the Giants Dodge cluster fuck return wasn't that his only punt return try?

Wow way to research. A good addon would be performance. Maybe adding those profocus ratings to player scores to get a better picture of success. I do think scoring more for later rounds is a great idea. With so many injuries depth is critical. Next man up doesn't work if there is no competent next man.

And for all the Gilbride hate he did quite well with many O issues just like now.

Well if he smashed on a punt return I don't want to hear a peep then. I would never put my best player in that situation. The ROI is simply not worth it.

This is why these QB discussions are pointless. Football is by far the most team oriented sport. A superstar can elevate a team but he can't carry it. Look at how great big brother Manning looked when his OLine shit the bed in the SB. No QB will succeed with a low end OLine and no running game. NONE.

Not going to be negative about kicking but why is Beckham returning punts? That's a real Coughlin head scratcher.

Definitely Eli with a good OLine. You're basically asking would you rather have a complete O or Rodgers. Rodgers is good but he has had issues carrying the team with mediocre OLines also. When the run game is effective Rodgers is very good just like Eli.

The last three loses have been more O than D. The D played well enough to win but the O completely failed to do anything in the last half of those games. The O continually puts the D in bad spots that they are not talented enough to dig the team out of. The D did enough against all three teams but the O wasn't helping.

I think you're right. This is the type of demoralising loss that loses the players. I hope the locker room isn't lost but I think it now is.

Yes and now unfortunately the Giants are starting 2-6 and continuing to dive. The play-calling has definitely been a big issue. When the D starts bringing all out pressure the O collapses. No quick dumps or mis-direction plays to slow the D down. Eli also goes into full deer in headlights mode. He used to have ice in his veins but that time seems to be in the past.

Good for him; too bad nobody will go near that mine field.

To see how bad it is read this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/11/19/chris-cooley-rgiii-was-so-bad-i-cant-assess-the-rest-of-the-redskins-offense/ He's making the OLine look much worse than it is and missing easy reads. The guy is done.

I used to tell the woman the 4th quarter is Eli time. Lately though it seems like this is not the case. Does anybody know the last game winning drive by Eli? Also OBJ is going to get killed on an errant Eli throw circus catch.

Another issue with Cruz is he became very soft. When was the last time he took a hit to get extra yards? When he is surrounded, he usually slides. I think we all remember his give up fumble.

I was just talking about this with a guy at work. Luck was known to be a great QB in waiting. If I was the Raiders or Jaguars owner I would have intentionally tanked that season. He told me that apparently this is the 76ers plan. The problem for the Raiders and Jaguars is that there aren't many Lucks to draft.

Reese make this happen.

Irsay needs to stop fucking around with his team. I think that trade will help. Luck is very good but if I am a Colts fan I am very nervous of him burning out. He is going to be all the O with a mediocre OLine. Not good.

He is. Drafting with the Giants is by consensus vote.

Will this be Matt Millenesque?

Well Bradshaw was playing so there was some threat of a run. Richardson had 7 carries againt New England with 0 yards. How is that possible. That Browns trade is looking like the worst trade of the decade for the Colts. Bradshaw the cripple beat him for the starting position.

Coughlin failed by running offensive plays.

This will definitely happen if no contract. With the Dallas line a RB is not a priority.