Victor Cruz

[Nas]

If you look up "work in progress", you'll see a photo of the Cowboys offensive line.

 

Honestly, if they don't improve, Romo will be scrambling around on a Rascal by the end of the season.

 

My favorite play......"the spontaneous snap"

 

And this is the photo shown when the work is complete

 

[fringe]

LOL, Spontaneous Snap. aka the Junkin.

[BadEgg]

If you look up "work in progress", you'll see a photo of the Cowboys offensive line.

 

Honestly, if they don't improve, Romo will be scrambling around on a Rascal by the end of the season.

 

My favorite play......"the spontaneous snap"

 

Not arguments here. I think I described them exactly the same way in another thread.

 

I normally don't like the early bye weeks but it is coming at the right time this season.

[fishgutmartyr]

Your WRs didn't know where to line up. Your center blew 4 snaps, including a couple with Romo directly over him. I'm not blaming Garrett, but I wouldn't exactly say your coaching staff did a bang-up job getting those guys ready to play. That's on the offensive staff, and you have to be the biggest homer in the world to think that was acceptable work getting those guys ready to play.

 

But don't take my word for it--watch the reaction your QB had to the situation during and after the game. He wasn't exactly all smiles now, was he?

 

I think Kitna is a decent QB. Not great, not a full-time starter. I thought he was good even before he joined the Lions, let alone your team. But I wouldn't put him on the field on one week's notice with the clown car WRs you foisted into Monday's game. Apparently, the Cowboys should put their offensive plays in an audio book, because your wide receivers obviously didn't or couldn't read it.

 

And no, I don't think it was the brightest idea to let a guy get on the field with a punctured lung, and no running game to speak of. Broken ribs, ok, that's been done, and so long as it's well-protected, it should be ok. But a punctured lung is just reckless--and for what? Entertainment shouldn't have a body count, and it's irresponsible to even take that chance.

 

The sick part of all this is I was actually hoping you guys would win, because I'd rather be in a tie for first than all alone in second. I will never make that mistake again.

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And if you insist about comparing a wk1 game to your wk3 fiasco, let's do just that. Because of weather conditions, we played 2 preseason games and a regular season game within a two-week span. Three games, two weeks--and we lost a week of practice between the 3rd and 4th preseason games. And during that span, we lost a boatload of players to injured reserve, with precious little time to adjust--you want to compare that to the joke of a depth chart you put on the field Monday in WEEK 3?

 

Sorry, man. You lost me right here. This is bad, even for a Giants fan. The MOTHER of all excuses -- we played too many games and we lost practice time. Throw in a "boatload" of injuries to boot. Creative. Sad.

 

It hurts, I know. The Cowboys won the game and are in first place. They won the game despite that depth chart, despite mass confusion on the o-line and despite a group of WR that had no idea what they were doing and a WR who was playing on 1 leg.

 

And they played their best football in the fourt quarter. When they had too.

 

The Giants were shut out by the Redskins in the second half. Did they even convert a 3rd down? And they had a healthy Manning. They had Nicks. They had Jacobs. They had Bradshaw. I believe they had Manningahm. And they couldn't even get a field goal.

 

Meanwhile, Grossman rings them up for 300 yards. Think about that. And a 100 yard game from Fred Davis, the TE version of Jerry Rice. Davis will be good, no doubt. But the Giants have issues. Sorry, they do.

 

They played too many games = excuse.

 

They couldn't practice = excuse.

 

Injuries = excuse.

 

The Cowboys were injured Monday night. Half the league is. Vick wasn't around in the fourth and we all know what he can do in the fourth.

 

The Giants don't look good this season. TC will probably be canned at the end of the year and you'll be starting over. Your QB won't be run out of town because they can't.

 

But what can you do? Relax man, and enjoy the season.

 

You beat the dream team and have the Cardnals next week. Times are good.

So, you're telling me your team wouldn't have done better with a healthy Romo, Bryant, and Austin Monday? I'm sorry to hear that.

 

Of course, we appeared to have a decent offense last week without 2 of our starting WRs from the previous week. Certainly not the horror show that showed up in your game. And we were running the ball--what was Jone's excuse?

 

You miss Barber. Your line looks barely passable with your starters intact. Your depth is abysmal. Your team takes the injury hits we've taken so far, and you're already watching college games to see who you can draft with your high pick. As it is, WE HAVE THE SAME RECORD. More importantly, I've seen IMPROVEMENT between week 1 and 3, even with losing another player to IR. Our last game was our strongest, with both our offense and defense showing signs of getting into gear. How's your season going?

 

And yeah, playing on a Monday, then AGAIN THAT THURSDAY isn't typical for football. Especially when you are in preseason, which is supposed to be about getting ready for the regular season. It defeats the purpose, and certainly doesn't help you to get players that you weren't expecting to start ready for the first game. It made that last week of preseason an utter waste of time.

 

I've tempered my expectations for this season. I plan on enjoying some of the kids develop, and would be happy if we got into the playoffs at all. From what I saw, I suggest you do the same.

[JackStroud]

There are no excuses for game #1

 

Toss it out

 

We were blase' and the Skins much improved caught us off guard in their house in their home opener

 

I have the utmost respect for Mike Shanahan.......wish we had him. He gives you the Coughlln discipline with the creativity of a modern HC.

 

We are now in our groove.........heaven help our opponents........they will be steamrolled

 

As you look around the league, outside of the Packers, Atlanta, you are hard pressed to find a team like ours

 

tough in the trenches with talent at the glamor positions.....we are a tough out

 

The cowboys.......every year the power rankings have them up there........then the games are played and the undeniable weaknesses are exposed.

 

I've got

 

Giants 11-5

 

Eagles 10-6

 

Redskins 8-8

 

Cowboys 7-9

[BadEgg]

So, you're telling me your team wouldn't have done better with a healthy Romo, Bryant, and Austin Monday? I'm sorry to hear that.

 

Of course, we appeared to have a decent offense last week without 2 of our starting WRs from the previous week. Certainly not the horror show that showed up in your game. And we were running the ball--what was Jone's excuse?

 

You miss Barber. Your line looks barely passable with your starters intact. Your depth is abysmal. Your team takes the injury hits we've taken so far, and you're already watching college games to see who you can draft with your high pick. As it is, WE HAVE THE SAME RECORD. More importantly, I've seen IMPROVEMENT between week 1 and 3, even with losing another player to IR. Our last game was our strongest, with both our offense and defense showing signs of getting into gear. How's your season going?

 

And yeah, playing on a Monday, then AGAIN THAT THURSDAY isn't typical for football. Especially when you are in preseason, which is supposed to be about getting ready for the regular season. It defeats the purpose, and certainly doesn't help you to get players that you weren't expecting to start ready for the first game. It made that last week of preseason an utter waste of time.

 

I've tempered my expectations for this season. I plan on enjoying some of the kids develop, and would be happy if we got into the playoffs at all. From what I saw, I suggest you do the same.

 

 

What are you on crack? Tempered expectations? And I remembered you as being reasonable.

 

As I said earlier, I did not view the Cowboys as a playoff team when the season began. As of today, I think they are as good as anyone in the East. So we'll see as the season progresses.

 

But your ranting about the Cowboys offense is ridiculous. I'm not big on statitstics but through 3 weeks they're like 5th in the league in yards per game while the Giants are like 20. The Giants have scored 2 points more than the Cowboys. They made the Jets look silly for 3 1/2 quarters. So don't talk to me about offense.

 

Dez will heal. Felix will heal. Austin will come back. The offense will be fine.

 

The more you post the more credibility you lose. Your rants give little respect to the Redskins and that is wrong.

 

I mean, after all, you think you would give their defense some measure of respect given what they did to the Giants in week 1. Take off the blue and red goggles and really look at that game.

 

Instead, you make pathetic excuses.

 

As a Cowboys fan I say hats off to the Redskins defense. A hard-hitting, talented, athletic unit. As well coached as any. I think the Redskins defense will keep them in the thick of things.

 

And I'm happy that Romo and the Cowboys stole a game from them. I guess it sucks that you can't say the same thing.

[JMFP]

The Giants don't look good this season. TC will probably be canned at the end of the year and you'll be starting over. Your QB won't be run out of town because they can't.

 

I certainly don't need to carry Fish's water, but I have to say your comments about the Giants simply fly in the face of reality.

 

The Giants have steadily improved this season, which is clearly obvious on film, and confirmed by every professional football analyst that has weighed in on the subject.

 

I'm not discounting the Redskins...I fully expected a better team this season from 2010. But, if the Giants from Week 3 show up against the Redskins from Week 1, it will be a different outcome in the Meadowlands.

 

I've watched alot of Rex Grossman games....anyone from Chicago can tell you what "Good Rex / Bad Rex" means. I think Good Rex showed up in Week 1, and Bad Rex made the trip to Dallas.

 

Regardless, as for the Cowboys.....if they don't improve dramatically, the Giants will kick their ass when they meet.

[BadEgg]

I certainly don't need to carry Fish's water, but I have to say your comments about the Giants simply fly in the face of reality.

 

The Giants have steadily improved this season, which is clearly obvious on film, and confirmed by every professional football analyst that has weighed in on the subject.

 

I'm not discounting the Redskins...I fully expected a better team this season from 2010. But, if the Giants from Week 3 show up against the Redskins from Week 1, it will be a different outcome in the Meadowlands.

 

As for the Cowboys.....if they don't improve dramatically, the Giants will kick their ass when they meet.

 

Most of these so-called analysts also believe that the Rams handed the game to the Giants. The Rams suck. Quite honestly, the Giants did not look very good against the Rams. I can't remember many people being overly impressed with the Giants that night. The fans that were booing in the Meadowlands weren't.

 

So the Giants look mediocre for two straight weeks. Actually, flat out bad week 1 and mediocre week 2. Then they go into Philly. Nobody covers Jacobs. Easy TD. Nobody tackles all 120 pounds of Cruz. TD. Vick gets hurt. And Fat Andy goes for it on 4th down when he should have punted.

 

And this is improvement. For all we know, at the end of the year, the so-called dream team may be a 7-9 team. I don't know if I would hang my hat on the improvement theory just yet.

[JackStroud]

I'm glad you believe in your Cowboys Egg.....you should.......no matter how bad the Giants were in the past I started every year thinking we were going 19-0

 

I'd much rather have a Giants Cowboy annual rivalry than dealing with the slippery, sneaky, cheap shot, yet talented Eagles

 

I look back at the Giants/Cowboys rivalry as a gentleman's rivalry...........with the Eagles we are dealing with thugs and a sneaky HC.

[JMFP]

Most of these so-called analysts also believe that the Rams handed the game to the Giants. The Rams suck. Quite honestly, the Giants did not look very good against the Rams. I can't remember many people being overly impressed with the Giants that night. The fans that were booing in the Meadowlands weren't.

 

So the Giants look mediocre for two straight weeks. Actually, flat out bad week 1 and mediocre week 2. Then they go into Philly. Nobody covers Jacobs. Easy TD. Nobody tackles all 120 pounds of Cruz. TD. Vick gets hurt. And Fat Andy goes for it on 4th down when he should have punted.

 

And this is improvement. For all we know, at the end of the year, the so-called dream team may be a 7-9 team. I don't know if I would hang my hat on the improvement theory just yet.

 

We shall see.

 

I wouldn't hang my hat on Phil Costa handling Ndamukong Suh next week.

 

Holy mismatch, Batman.

 

I see the Cowboys at 2-2, and the Giants at 3-1.

[fishgutmartyr]

What are you on crack? Tempered expectations? And I remembered you as being reasonable.

 

As I said earlier, I did not view the Cowboys as a playoff team when the season began. As of today, I think they are as good as anyone in the East. So we'll see as the season progresses.

 

That's good. You're not. I don't think anybody in this division looks too hot right now. Somebody is going to stumble into the division lead and get in, but I doubt the east is going to see a wildcard.

 

But your ranting about the Cowboys offense is ridiculous. I'm not big on statitstics but through 3 weeks they're like 5th in the league in yards per game while the Giants are like 20. The Giants have scored 2 points more than the Cowboys. They made the Jets look silly for 3 1/2 quarters. So don't talk to me about offense.

 

Yards per game? Impressive. Give me the points. They count for something.

 

Pity a game is 4 quarters, not 3 1/2. Otherwise, we'd have been in the playoffs last year. And you're still 2-1.

 

Dez will heal. Felix will heal. Austin will come back. The offense will be fine.

 

The more you post the more credibility you lose. Your rants give little respect to the Redskins and that is wrong.

 

I mean, after all, you think you would give their defense some measure of respect given what they did to the Giants in week 1. Take off the blue and red goggles and really look at that game.

 

Instead, you make pathetic excuses.

 

Don't recall hearing this tune about the vaunted Redskin defense after the first week. Wonder why. And no matter how improved the Redskins D was, that doesn't excuse Cowboy players from not knowing where to line up. Or when to fucking snap the ball. Just like it didn't excuse our lack-luster play in the first game.

 

It's hysterical that you would rather give the Redskins credit than admit your offense looked like shit.

 

And I didn't deny that we looked like hell the first game, either. Or, for that matter, that the 2nd game wasn't all that good. I just understand why we looked like hell. So much for excuses. Frankly, how the Giants have played on the field so far this season bears out what I've been posting.

 

Now you're going to talk about the Rams sucking. This never gets tired. They've played us, the Ravens, and the Eagles. Not exactly a pleasant schedule. I wonder how "improved" that team will be if they play you close, or heaven forbid, beat you.

 

As a Cowboys fan I say hats off to the Redskins defense. A hard-hitting, talented, athletic unit. As well coached as any. I think the Redskins defense will keep them in the thick of things.

 

And I'm happy that Romo and the Cowboys stole a game from them. I guess it sucks that you can't say the same thing.

 

Nope, they flat-out beat us. We'll see what happens later in the season.

[Nas]

We shall see.

 

I wouldn't hang my hat on Phil Costa handling Ndamukong Suh next week.

 

Holy mismatch, Batman.

 

I see the Cowboys at 2-2, and the Giants at 3-1.

 

[Nas]

It's hysterical that you would rather give the Redskins credit than admit your offense looked like shit.

 

My best friend (the cowboys fan) kept texting me with "smh" every time the cowboys offense looked lost...

 

P.S. smh = shaking my head.

[RandolphScott]

 

 

Oh, it's only badegg

 

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[BadEgg]

We shall see.

 

I wouldn't hang my hat on Phil Costa handling Ndamukong Suh next week.

 

Holy mismatch, Batman.

 

I see the Cowboys at 2-2, and the Giants at 3-1.

 

I agree with this. I think I said as much earlier. Anything can happen but right now, Detriot is better.

[osi724dasack]

I agree with this. I think I said as much earlier. Anything can happen but right now, Detriot is better.

Its weird that they are but it's true.

 

 

 

How's there back 7?? I know there D Line is legit and there offense is legit.

[BadEgg]

Its weird that they are but it's true.

 

 

 

How's there back 7?? I know there D Line is legit and there offense is legit.

 

I'm with you. Don't know much about them,

 

I don't think they run the ball consistently though.

 

So maybe you can get to Stafford or at least confuse him.

[BIGBLUE01]

Most of these so-called analysts also believe that the Rams handed the game to the Giants. The Rams suck. Quite honestly, the Giants did not look very good against the Rams. I can't remember many people being overly impressed with the Giants that night. The fans that were booing in the Meadowlands weren't.

 

So the Giants look mediocre for two straight weeks. Actually, flat out bad week 1 and mediocre week 2. Then they go into Philly. Nobody covers Jacobs. Easy TD. Nobody tackles all 120 pounds of Cruz. TD. Vick gets hurt. And Fat Andy goes for it on 4th down when he should have punted.

 

And this is improvement. For all we know, at the end of the year, the so-called dream team may be a 7-9 team. I don't know if I would hang my hat on the improvement theory just yet.

 

Anyone can make anything sound bad, its not that hard. But you're out of reality eggy. We didnt look bad at all against the Rams. Highly impressive? No, but good. And won soundly, not by 3 points like the cowboys vs a very bad as well 49er team with no QB or WR worth a damn. We both played a good team in the eagles and jets. We beat the eagles, and looked REAL good doing it, you lost to the jets. Jurys still out on washington.

 

 

Thats reality egg. Not you picking 3 plays from the Giants-eagles game making it sound like 3 fluke plays won it for us. We dominted the eagles. The cowfucks hobbled by the skins. Big difference.

[ksm7]

Anyone can make anything sound bad, its not that hard. But you're out of reality eggy. We didnt look bad at all against the Rams. Highly impressive? No, but good. And won soundly, not by 3 points like the cowboys vs a very bad as well 49er team with no QB or WR worth a damn. We both played a good team in the eagles and jets. We beat the eagles, and looked REAL good doing it, you lost to the jets. Jurys still out on washington.

 

 

Thats reality egg. Not you picking 3 plays from the Giants-eagles game making it sound like 3 fluke plays won it for us. We dominted the eagles. The cowfucks hobbled by the skins. Big difference.

 

the dog would like to look at this realistically for a moment if you will allow. first, the giants beat the eagles on the road and made the plays they needed to in order to win. they deserved the win, no doubt. but before we declare them the class of the NFC east, and express how much they "dominated", let's break it down a bit...

 

the eagles had 25 first downs to 14; 376 total yards to 334; 72 plays to 51; 177 rushing yards to 102; and held the ball for 35 minuts to the giants 23. the game came down to turnovers and big plays. to the giants credit, they made them happen. the first cruz td was a short pass and catch that ended up going 80 yards thanks in large part to hideous tackling. the jacobs td catch was a well designed play coupled with a blown coverage. the andy reid bonehead coaching decision of the day to go on fourth and 1 with 10 minutes left changed the game (to the giants defense's credit, they stuffed the play in crunch time). at that point, the eagles were up 2, and should have punted the ball deep and made the giants offense go the length of the field to try and score, something they hadn't done efficiently all game. and we all know that if you give manning a long field to travel, the liklihood of a boneheaded pick becomes that much more of a possibility. all in all, it was a good win for the giants, but to say they dominated the eagles is such a stretch given the reality of the game.

 

there is not one team in the nfc east that at this moment in time looks like anything more than a throw in to the playoffs by default (think seattle last year). of course that will most likely change by year's end, but if you are looking at this realistically, none of these teams are dominant. quite frankly, after 3 games, the redskins are the best of the bunch. they cruised past the giants week 1, beat a solid cardinals team week 2 (if you look at the stats of that game, it is a wonder how the score was so close), and went on the road to dallas and really should have come away from it 3-0. obviously grossman is the big question mark, but of the group, at this moment, the redskins are probably the best of the lot...again, more by default than anything else.

[BIGBLUE01]

the dog would like to look at this realistically for a moment if you will allow. first, the giants beat the eagles on the road and made the plays they needed to in order to win. they deserved the win, no doubt. but before we declare them the class of the NFC east, and express how much they "dominated", let's break it down a bit...

 

the eagles had 25 first downs to 14; 376 total yards to 334; 72 plays to 51; 177 rushing yards to 102; and held the ball for 35 minuts to the giants 23. the game came down to turnovers and big plays. to the giants credit, they made them happen. the first cruz td was a short pass and catch that ended up going 80 yards thanks in large part to hideous tackling. the jacobs td catch was a well designed play coupled with a blown coverage. the andy reid bonehead coaching decision of the day to go on fourth and 1 with 10 minutes left changed the game (to the giants defense's credit, they stuffed the play in crunch time). at that point, the eagles were up 2, and should have punted the ball deep and made the giants offense go the length of the field to try and score, something they hadn't done efficiently all game. and we all know that if you give manning a long field to travel, the liklihood of a boneheaded pick becomes that much more of a possibility. all in all, it was a good win for the giants, but to say they dominated the eagles is such a stretch given the reality of the game.

 

there is not one team in the nfc east that at this moment in time looks like anything more than a throw in to the playoffs by default (think seattle last year). of course that will most likely change by year's end, but if you are looking at this realistically, none of these teams are dominant. quite frankly, after 3 games, the redskins are the best of the bunch. they cruised past the giants week 1, beat a solid cardinals team week 2 (if you look at the stats of that game, it is a wonder how the score was so close), and went on the road to dallas and really should have come away from it 3-0. obviously grossman is the big question mark, but of the group, at this moment, the redskins are probably the best of the lot...again, more by default than anything else.

 

 

Didnt even read this post dog, why?.....

 

It looks as if you ( and being badd agg as your alter ego, it doesnt surprise me ) tried to break down those 3 plays. Give it up, we whooped em. Period.

[ksm7]

Didnt even read this post dog, why?.....

 

It looks as if you ( and being badd agg as your alter ego, it doesnt surprise me ) tried to break down those 3 plays. Give it up, we whooped em. Period.

 

the dog wonders if you have ever read anything beyond the Garfield comic strip in the Sunday paper...pssst, not to play the role of spoiler, but Garfield in some way shape or form will insult Odie and eat a tray of lasagna...and you no doubt will giggle with glee each time.

[hlb37]

LOL

 

 

The old if you take away all the good stuff they did, they really where not impressive argument.

 

 

I always get a kick out of that kind of inane circular logic.

[BIGBLUE01]

the dog wonders if you have ever read anything beyond the Garfield comic strip in the Sunday paper...pssst, not to play the role of spoiler, but Garfield in some way shape or form will insult Odie and eat a tray of lasagna...and you no doubt will giggle with glee each time.

 

Well, Ive read things similar to a Garfield comic strip......your posts.

 

 

So, yeah, I know how it ends, so need to read.

[BIGBLUE01]

LOL

 

 

The old if you take away all the good stuff they did, they really where not impressive argument.

 

 

I always get a kick out of that kind of inane circular logic.

 

LMAO!! True.......

 

"Aside from the 4 TDs, bashing of Vick, 4 INTS and outscoring the eagles, the Giants looked shit!!"

[fishgutmartyr]

the dog would like to look at this realistically for a moment if you will allow. first, the giants beat the eagles on the road and made the plays they needed to in order to win. they deserved the win, no doubt. but before we declare them the class of the NFC east, and express how much they "dominated", let's break it down a bit...

 

the eagles had 25 first downs to 14; 376 total yards to 334; 72 plays to 51; 177 rushing yards to 102; and held the ball for 35 minuts to the giants 23. the game came down to turnovers and big plays. to the giants credit, they made them happen. the first cruz td was a short pass and catch that ended up going 80 yards thanks in large part to hideous tackling. the jacobs td catch was a well designed play coupled with a blown coverage. the andy reid bonehead coaching decision of the day to go on fourth and 1 with 10 minutes left changed the game (to the giants defense's credit, they stuffed the play in crunch time). at that point, the eagles were up 2, and should have punted the ball deep and made the giants offense go the length of the field to try and score, something they hadn't done efficiently all game. and we all know that if you give manning a long field to travel, the liklihood of a boneheaded pick becomes that much more of a possibility. all in all, it was a good win for the giants, but to say they dominated the eagles is such a stretch given the reality of the game.

 

That really doesn't mean much. We lost plenty of games like that last year. Other than being frustrating for you, it's still a loss. And of course the comedy of the situation was that you were saying something similar to what I was saying last year. Now the same argument is being used to denigrate a win this season. From experience, this argument doesn't suddenly pop a win on the schedule.

 

The Jacobs TD was a well-executed play, and you don't know if it was blown coverage, or simply a play the Eagles didn't expect and could not compensate for from their called defense.

 

You're also conveniently neglecting a well-selected, perfectly executed screen to Bradshaw.

 

Speaking of which, why is the Redskins D getting credit against Dallas, while the Giants D isn't? Considering the ridiculous amount of successful goal-line stands we've had so far, we don't seem to garner any credit from you or Egg. What gives?

 

there is not one team in the nfc east that at this moment in time looks like anything more than a throw in to the playoffs by default (think seattle last year). of course that will most likely change by year's end, but if you are looking at this realistically, none of these teams are dominant. quite frankly, after 3 games, the redskins are the best of the bunch. they cruised past the giants week 1, beat a solid cardinals team week 2 (if you look at the stats of that game, it is a wonder how the score was so close), and went on the road to dallas and really should have come away from it 3-0. obviously grossman is the big question mark, but of the group, at this moment, the redskins are probably the best of the lot...again, more by default than anything else.

 

They started fast under Zorn as well. They still have a lot of tough games to play. We'll see, just as we will with the Giants.