RaginCaucasian

According to SI, Steelers might not be interested in Poz.

Lets just hope that if he becomes a Giant he doesn't stink up the field like "The Boz". Last I checked most of the LB's run in the 4.5 range, only an elite few run in the 4.4's. Exactly, it might be apples to oranges but exactly how great did Tim Carter (a collegiate sprinter) do as a Giant? Not too great the last I checked....... how fast did Harry Carson run in the 40? Or if you'd like a white LB to compare him to, how fast does Zach Thomas run the 40 yard dash? What did they say about him coming out of Texas Tech? Too slow & too small to play in the NFL, how well has he done since?

Now only 1 game in hand & 2 points out of the playoffs. Don't have to talk trash, you look stupid enough for saying dumb statements like this. Never mind your "star" goalie has a headache...... to go along with his menstrual cramps.

Coughlin and Hitler, nice correlation Tom you fucking numbskull...... equate yourself to a guy who tried to wipe out an entire group of people. So much for making friends and influencing people.

All I can say is...................... DAMN DE-BO, YOU GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT!!!! Goodnight Francis!

Luckily my car can take regular gas unlike your truck which (if I'm not mistaken) needs premium.

Truly, aside from some of the premier guys who went way early and got some truly astronomical numbers that will eventually (without contract re-structuring) kill some team's cap #'s, most of the tier 2 guys are getting money that in any "normal" FA period would go to those premier players. In short, yeah so far we have done very little but quite frankly paying this much in FA to players at the second level is about as smart as having half a tank of gas knowing full well that you can get to work until payday but filling up the tank (@ $2.70/gallon :brooding: :explode: )with gas instead of buying food.

Yeah, not for nothing fellas but if this guy was a really great WR he would have been one of the first guys picked up in FA. Not to mention the fact that the only time he truly fourished was under Mike Martz & his air-em-out attack, when the Rams brought in Linehan & they went to more of a power run attack (which I think the Eagles might have finally figured out wins games) his production went in the tank (mind you he was injured part of the season but when healthy he was a 3'rd reciever & not a very productive one). If the Eagles are going to ask him to be their #1 guy then they are going to be sorry for doing so, he's really not worth killing ourselves over not getting..... dissapointing yes but is he Marvin Harrison, no.

Curtis to the Eagles.

I thought that our first priority would be LB or players to solidify that pourous secondary, when was the last time we saw a coverage sack? Regardless I think it should be BPA regardless as to what position although I do like Lawrence Timmons, I know that ALL of the draft analysts say that he's too short & didn't run well at the combine but I like his hitting ability and after watching him piss all over the Hurricanes offense (not that there was much to speak of) I think that he's be a great fit next to Pierce who wants & needs another fiery guy to compliment him.

ESPN's take Some of the comments left on ESPN.com: Sonic213 (3/11/2007 at 3:52 PM) at least one person in the NHL front office has a good grasp on what his job is. although if Simon would have swung his stick at Gary Betteman i would be more than willing to forgive him. Mbbuk55 (3/11/2007 at 5:57 PM) EJ...you're 100% right about this situation. However, this is probably the first time Campbell has ever assessed a fair punishment for an on-ice incident against the New York Rangers. Campbell used to coach the Rangers and has acted bitterly towards them ever since. Earlier this season he suspended Donald Brashear a mere 1 game for a sucker punch to Aaron Ward comprable to that of Carmelo Anthony's (which warranted 15 games in the NBA). Campbell had no choice but to punish the repeat offending Simon, but if he could have it his way he would've put the blame on Hollweg and not assessed as long a suspension. Also, where was Colin Campbell when Colby Armstrong elbowed Brad Lukowich in the head early this week? All I saw was Armstrong beating my NY Rangers in OT on Saturday, when he should've been suspended for his on ice conduct. jdcarlin13 (3/11/2007 at 6:29 PM) I actually disagree with E. J. and feel the punishment was not harsh enough. I am a HUGE Isles fan and yet, for the good of the game, I feel an even longer suspension is warranted. Look, the team/league can still be supportive of Chris Simon in terms of anger-management classes, etc., but he should not be allowed on the ice after missing "only" 25 games. I suspect if the Hollweg's injury had been worse, a longer suspension would have been handed down. Yen42185 (3/11/2007 at 6:46 PM) EJ HRADEK DOES NOT DESERVE TO WRITE ABOUT SPORTS AND BE PAYED FOR IT. EVERYONE SHOULD GO TO HIS BLOG AND READ WHAT HE SAID INITIALLY ABOUT THIS INCIDENT, BEFORE THE LEAGUE HANDED DOWN THIS ABSOLUTELY ASININE PUNISHMENT. CHRIS SIMON SHOULD BE BANNED FROM PLAYING HOCKEY. NO SUSPENSION, NO TIME OFF. HE IS A REPEAT OFFENDER AND THUG, THERE IS NO PLACE FOR HIM IN THE NHL. HRADEK SAID THAT HE THOUGHT THE HIT BY HOLLWEG SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PENALTY. WHAT?!?!?!?!? PEOPLE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE STORIES FOR THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF READING THIS KIND OF GARBAGE. AND MEMO TO ESPN - - GET REAL JOURNALISTS!!!! cpfranko (3/11/2007 at 11:14 PM) Like i said on my posting on your Blog EJ, its a shame that ESPN cant find better writers to cover sports like hockey. Its part of the reason why hockey has a bad rep. Your full of it EJ. PLease go read his blog and what he said the first time around(What was Simon Thinking? 3/9/07 ) He actually said that there was no foul on the play. If there was no foul then how can this suspension be the right message. The real question that you have now raised is why does ESPN bother paying you to write for them. LeroyQuant (3/11/2007 at 11:25 PM) I think the suspension was adequate. It was a "heat of the moment" incident, unlike Bertuzzi's calculated attack on Steve Moore. Simon's stick swinging looked heinously ugly, but the truth of it is Mr. Hollweg never missed a shift. Steve Moore will never play again. I think Todd Bertuzzi (and the NHL) got lucky when the lockout prevented them from having to make a difficult decision. Elbows to the head and hits from behind should be as severely punished as this incident. I think intent is crucial, but extent of injury is integral in choosing wheter, or how long, to suspend a player. GB2435 (3/12/2007 at 1:48 AM) Why did Hollweg skate right back towards a guy, who would board his kid in a father-son game, totally defenseless? What did you think Simon was going to do? High five for a good clean hit? Whatever, have fun golfing Chris...hope no one hits into you. ForgeGod (3/12/2007 at 2:42 AM) How is 25 games for a videotaped felony "tough"? I know ESPN likes to present a united front, and I'm sure the NHL would have been happy to grease some palms to get ESPN to say this was the right response, but come on. I wonder how much pressure got put on Hollweg (or how much money he got) to say he thought it was a fair penalty. LeroyQuant (3/12/2007 at 4:07 AM) To the man who called the incident a "videotaped felony"...I think that is an over exaggeration of the facts. By the way the law reads, things such as a slash to the wrist, and a trip could be construed as battery. When a wrestler smashes someone in the head with a folding chair it is not a felony. Rules on the playing surface are different than rules on the street. Boxing would be another example. nithdurr (3/12/2007 at 4:37 AM) LeroyQuantWell, in hockey, the purpose is to score goals and not engage in fist cuffs. I shudder to think of what would happen to Gretzky if he played in the last 10 years or so. He would probably be hurt all the time (sigh) I mean this wasnt a typical check and he was not trying to redirect the puck or keep the guy from doing his thing. How else do you explain a guy coming towards you and proceeds to bring his stick down on your face? Is he playing "hockey" in the spirit of the game? I think not. If he wants to fight then maybe the UFC would be a better fit. Then we can see how "tough" those people are! Futhermore, "When a wrestler smashes somebody in the head with a folding chair it is not a felony." You're right that's because wrestling is FAKE and maneuvers and especially props such as fake blood packets are used. They go to clinics/workshops on how to "sell" wrestling. How do you think all these wrestlers don't have broken necks from all those piledrivers and body slams from 2-3 floor scaffoldings during catch matches or even from the top turnbuckles (?) through tabletops?? bruins309 (3/12/2007 at 6:32 AM) With the way the rules are now, the league is probably encouraging cheap stick work. Without the instigator rule, which almost all hockey people agree is a bad rule anyway, Simon would have probably dropped the gloves and they would have fought. That's the way it used to be done. Then again, one can call into question Simon's sanity and mental health from previous incidents... rfm099 (3/12/2007 at 7:49 AM) This is another hypocritical NHL response. Save for the Suter hit on Kariya, time and time again these incidents are thug on thug crime. The fact that the NHL referees make conscious choices on whether or not to "let teams play" is the underlying change agent. Review the 3 most famous incidents, all 3 were retaliatory acts based on a previous event. Again, save for the Suter hit, these are not initial hits. Look at the product you are selling, with the sizzle being the physical play, and tell me that the NHL does not condone this behavior through their own actions. The suspensions on largely irrelevant players is just a facade. Imagine a superstar reacting similarly to a thug - the NHL would have a tough decision on their hands. grimpy_01 (3/12/2007 at 7:55 AM) Yen42185... you couldn't be more correct. EJ is a water cooler regurgitator. I'm sure you've noticed 97.3% of his columns come out 2 or 3 days after everyone has already discussed it. Nothing like repeating what's been said 20 times and mooching off other people's opinions.Leroy.. every hear of Marty McSorley?? same stick work different outcome (thankfully). McSorley was charged with assault.Simon is a goon always has been always will be. time to put him out to pasture and make room on the roster for someone with talent. johnrob5 (3/12/2007 at 9:10 AM) The Chris Simon penalty is not harsh enough. Two inches lower and your talking assault with a deadly weapon and possible manslaughter. Simon's swing definitely had intent. He could have easily killed Hollweg had he hit him in the throat. Simon should not be allowed back on the ice period. Support him through classes, but do not allow him back. Send the message that no player can do this. In 35 years of watching hockey, I have not seen anything this bad. phatmo803 (3/12/2007 at 10:21 AM) This is a disgrace. The NHL has gotten so out of hand for the last 10 years it has become a joke. 25 games, please. That should be rest of regular season + the potential for 28 playoff games. I hate that no one mentions that Hollweg did check Simon FROM BEHIND into the boards which sparked hit. What simon did was worse, but if Simon didn't snap, we'd be talking about a blatant check from behind that could've caused another Erik Cole type injury jenjenlucas (3/12/2007 at 10:32 AM) Are you kidding me? This was not as bad as Bertuzzi's calculated attack on Moore? Simon got lucky. He swung a stick at a guy's head. A hockey stick which routinely cuts guys open by accident and he two handed it at a guy's head. Bertuzzi swung a gloved fist - the least of an NHL player's weapons. 9 out of 10 times nothing happens. Anytime you swing a stick somebody gets hurt. This is a guy with repeated suspensions. This is bad for hockey. Suspension should have been much higher. Simon was lucky he got Hollweg on the chin and did no real damage. Ridiculous that the suspension in this case was not much longer only because Hollweg was not seriously injured. Simon is lucky to be still able to play hockey. urungus (3/12/2007 at 10:40 AM) Bleeding hearts who think this is the worst thing they've ever seen don't know much about hockey history: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/columns/top10/hockey_lowlights.html By historical standards, this was a minor incident. It's not like Hollweg had his skull fractured like Ted Green. Yet Simon is getting the longest suspension in NHL history. What more do you want? Are you offended by the movie Slapshot? If so, you have no business being a hockey fan. Hockey's a tough game. If you can't stomach what Simon did perhaps you'd find figure skating more to your liking. jusdane (3/12/2007 at 11:33 AM) For me, the punishment fits the crime. Whether Simon snapped or not is irrelevant, as is the fact that Hollweg only needed a few stitches. Banning him for life is rediculous thinking. The front office is in a fashion setting precedent. 25 games for a serious premeditated act is a acceptable message for determent. Criminal legal actions could additionally be taken in the event an attacked player were permanently injured, but if you watch and know hockey, you know that it is a contact sport whereas contact is made all the time with the stick. If "banning for life" were the verdict some of you tree huggers suggest (which may not even hold up in court legally), then the front office would have to review every major similar incident with only two choices . . . ban for life or look the other way. Think of the mess that would create. If you don't understand, then maybe you shouldn't watch hockey and stick to Ice Capades or Ice Skating with the Stars. eulernt (3/12/2007 at 12:52 PM) Yen, posting in all caps doesn't make your opinion right. I agree with the suspension, I even agree with you, if he's done this type of thing before, get rid of him. But I don't see how you could call that hit by Hollwig clean. That was a check to the back that put Simon headfirst into the boards. A hit like that could easily have snapped Simon's neck, and killed or paralyzed him. It definitely should have been a penalty (could have been called at least 3 different ways), and for that reason, I can totally see why Simon snapped. If someone just did something to you that could have resulted in your death, wouldn't you have fought back?

OK, I think they did give Simon a break.... the NHL should have tossed him out of the league for good. They have dealt with this stick swinging incident twice in the last few years (McSorley & Simon), and egregious, outright assault in another (Bertuzzi) And a 25 game suspension IMO is getting off light, if Simon had done that out on the street it would be assault with a deadly weapon & he's be in jail for 5 years (and he still might be on the hook for criminal charges). Everybody in their right mind (including Simon and all of his Islander teammates, of course minus that other mongoloid idiot Witt) admits that he was in the wrong to do that, even if Hollweg did board him (which the refs, the NHL & every sportswriter out there thought at best might have been borderline) responding with an axe swing to someones face is illegal & has no place in the sport. Is hockey a physical, punishing sport with lots of contact some of which might border on dirty.... yes however if you play the sport (which I have for about 20 years) there are two things as a player you don't do one of which is swing your stick with intent to injure (as McSorley & Simon clearly did) and the other is going after another players knees. Hits from behnd near the boards are also frowned upon heavily and I can understand why Simon was upset but to get up and two hand a guy in the face? No, he was looking to injure him deliberatly, if he wanted a proper sort of justice.... Hollweg is a tough guy & so is Simon, drop the gloves.... it's not like either of them are strangers to 5 minute fighting majors (or suspensions as this is Simon's 7'th). And in regards to making or not making the playoffs the Rangers are currently IN THE PLAYOFFS as are the Islanders who only lead by 2 points & could just as easily be bounced as the Rangers..... hardly solid ground for Islanders fans to be making arguments about who will be playing golf in a matter of weeks.

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Agreed, his penchant for showing up for a decleater 2 steps late has gone on in my eyes long enough. Let him commit personal fouls elsewhere.

It wouldn't suprise me if that classless piece of shit did that too.

Awful, just every bit as bad as McSorley stalking & then hacking Brashear in the head many years ago.

That means Moss has to come in to camp & stay healthy......... how many times have we said that about Carter? I think he might still be facing charges but I'm not sure..... wasn't really paying much attention as I thought that the Giants would be looking at other veterans first. As far as his production goes, the Browns had one of the worst lines in the league last season especially after LeCharles Bentley wend down for the year in camp. ROFLMAO!!!

Neither would I but it seems pretty unlikely as it even says in the article that Jordan restructured his contract as of a few days ago to stay with the team. It's my fault that I put that in the thread header, I didn't read all the way through and was kinda hoping a little..... my bad.

Rhodes signs with Raiders. Now WTF are we gonna do?

Ehhh, up for debate..... he really didn't hit his stride until around 1998 but was a every down DT starting in 1999 and was very effective until 2002. He was also another guy who changed positions coming out of college, he was drafted as a DE and played a number of games earlier in his career at that spot but really excelled when he was moved to the interior. One thing about the Hammer was that once he was given a shot at the starting postion he went out and grabbed it by the throat and didn't let go. Joseph has been given a shot each of the last 3 years and has split time with everybody and nobody, so far he hasn't been effective playing every down & hasn't been effective in a rotation. He was known coming from Miami that he had the physical skill but it was debatable as to if he had the desire to continue to grow and get better at the pro level, in his defense I will say that many of the U lineman draftees from that draft have become sub-par NFL players (McDougle, Joseph, A. Williams, J. Green & M. Walters) so it might just be that the most effective players from that Miami defense that won the national championship the year before were the LB's & secondary players, or it could have been Miami's scheme/coaching. Either way I will just say that I am NOT trying to trash Joseph like the asswipes that used to frequent this board, he just might be running out of time to keep a spot on this team without a truly standout season.

I'm as big a fan of players from the U as can be but I think that after his contract is up we may have seen the last of Joseph..... we have been waiting for him to take his job away from many people for at least 3 years now. I fear that time will soon be coming for him as Cofield looked so impressive as a rookie..... one can only wonder how much better Cofield will get with more playing time. Joseph was drafted with lots of expectations and promise and has fulfilled very few of them, barring a major breakthrough this year might be his last.

I think that he might gauge his success in personal involvement in the offense, after the coaching change in St.Louis he really didn't get that many looks on offense (although he was hurt for part of the season) as the coaching change brought about more of a running attack and with Curtis as the slot reciever he got more looks in Martz's wide open passing game..... in short he was on the field more & thrived under Martz and Detroit (just like the Giants) needs consistant produtivity from the slot reciever, their 3'rd reciever was Mike (Fat Bust) Williams. That's why both parties are interested, although I agree he would be a fool to go to Detroit for any other reason aside from Martz..... their managment is asleep at the wheel.

That's for fucking sure, we better find two real good players in this draft, hopefully one of which will help our awful secondary. I don't think that Curtis wants to go to Detroit because of Matt Millen but I think it's got more to do with the fact that he got lost in the wash in St.Louis after Martz lost his head coaching position & would like to return to a system that he was an intregal part of.

I don't think so, I believe he is represented by Drew Rosenhaus.

I agree, IMO Porter has never played outside a 3-4 base defense and bringing him into Spagnuolo's (sp?) defense (a base 4-3) doesn't seem likely unless you are just going to use him situationaly to rush the passer. He seems to want starters money so I don't think that is likely & personally I think he is getting a little old both in his game and his act.