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This from KFFL.com Giants | Team to meet with Madison Monday Mon, 6 Mar 2006 06:02:33 -0800 Alex Marvez, of the Sun-Sentinel, reports agent Drew Rosenhaus said Sunday night, March 5, on Channel 7 (WSVN-TV) that free agent CB Sam Madison (Dolphins) will meet with the New York Giants Monday, March 6.

Sam Madison would work out well for our needs. Experienced corner with a reasonable price tag. He was inconsistent at times this season while trying to adjust to the new defensive schemes but at the end of the season really started to play like a probowler. Although Madison didnt go to the probowl, he was a first alternate. I would like to have him in Blue, he would be an excellent mentor to the younger players.

link Pat Kirwan (March 3, 2006) -- There is a lot of tension in the air when it comes to the NFL, the salary cap, and an extension on the Collective Bargaining Agreement. I am glad to see the two sides in these matters pushed back the start date of free agency so they can keep talking about an extension. The most important thing I learned as a negotiator was to keep talking and never let things get so bad that the communication stopped. Despite six Pro Bowl trips, La'Roi Glover's age and salary led to his departure from Dallas. Despite six Pro Bowl trips, La'Roi Glover's age and salary led to his departure from Dallas. But while the dialogue continues, club executives have a job to do with their respective rosters. It would appear that many teams decided not to wait until the final decision about a new CBA to purge their salary-cap situation. That begs the question about why now and not later, when they will have all the facts and new cap information? Of course, some would say if the salary cap goes up to $105 million with a new CBA instead of the $94.5 million it is at now, then maybe players who already have been cut would not necessarily had to have been terminated. But team executives are smart people, and there is little chance they are going to let people go before they have to just to prematurely get under a salary cap that doesn't exist yet. To me, it appears that we are witnessing the natural correction period on NFL rosters -- the end-of-the-year adjustment that probably was going to happen anyway with 10 new head coaches in the league, medical issues and -- most important -- age-to-salary ratio. The NFL finally realizes you can't pay players for what they have done in the past, but only for what they can do in the future. Terminations are happening so fast that by the time I finish writing this article, my list will be outdated, but a few points can be made about the roster adjustments that have been made this week. Of the first 44 players to be shown the door, 32 of them play defense. It appears that the age of the players released has to be a big factor when salaries are factored in -- 23 of the defensive players and eight of the offensive players terminated would have been at least 30 years old this upcoming season. Almost 71 percent of the first wave of players cut have a birthday before 1977. Eric Warfield turned 30 today, and his age might have played a role in his release. Eric Warfield turned 30 today, and his age might have played a role in his release. The NFL is a young man's game, and the first week of March is a big reminder of that issue. No sooner do the 32 clubs get back from the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis -- where they evaluated 330 prospects leaving college at an average age of 23 -- then they start making room for them. With seven rounds in the draft and a few extra picks (compensatory), room has to be made for the 230 young men entering the NFL, and so the cap purge starts up. Now, if the CBA doesn't get extended, the wave of terminations will intensify, but the early cuts look more like the natural process taking its course. Look at the birth year of the players who have been set free to find work at a cheaper price -- or just retire. Keep in mind, 1976 or earlier means an over-30 football player. Defensive linemen: Sam Adams, 1973; Ted Washington, 1968; Brady Smith, 1973; Brentson Buckner, 1971; La'Roi Glover, 1974; Gary Walker, 1973; Trevor Pryce, 1975; Kenard Lang, 1975; Lance Legree, 1977; Chris Cooper, 1977. Defensive backs: Brent Alexander, 1971; Lawyer Milloy, 1973; Dexter McCleon, 1973; Denard Walker, 1973; Jerry Wilson, 1973; Ty Law, 1974; Marcus Coleman, 1974; Sam Madison, 1974; Tebucky Jones, 1974; Duane Starks, 1974; Eric Warfield, 1976; Ahmed Plummer, 1976; Reggie Howard, 1977; Andre Dyson, 1979; Derrick Gibson, 1979. That pretty much paints the picture. Sure, players like Mike Anderson (1973) and Johnnie Morton (1971) probably will be back in the NFL in 2006, but the truth is that there is constant pressure to get a younger roster around the NFL. As one former great NFL player said to me the other day, "I spent the first three seasons wondering if I was going to even make the team, then I spent four years enjoying being a pro, and then I spent two years waiting to be cut because of my age." He entered the NFL as a 22-year-old and left as an "old man" at the ripe age of 31. There are a lot of professional football players staring at their cell phones this weekend expecting that call from their clubs letting them know they are headed in a different direction.

After about 10 mins trying to decipher this I think I know what you were trying to say. My response... Out of a possible 64 games Foster has only played in 33 of them. Foster has only started 10. In 4 seasons Foster has never finished a complete 16 games. Fosters career average of 4.1. Fosters career rushing TDs 4, Foster has more fumbles with 5. Now referring back to my original post I never said I dislike Foster or he isnt worth a contract. I simply stated I didnt think he has proved to be a 5 mil a year type back. He cant stay healthy and he doesnt have the stats to back up a 5 mil a year type contract. Regardless of whether or not the oline adjusted... the stats or games arent there.

Again Gateb we must read. That isnt counting the restructured contracts of Rivera or Ferguson who will save about 9.6. They are also trying to restructure Allen. They also have a few more cuts that will be made, the biggest could be Al Singleton who would save about 2 million. If the cap is $94.5 million without a new deal, the Cowboys presently have $8 million to $10 million to spend, although they can easily acquire another $9.6 million with a simple restructuring of the contracts for Jason Ferguson and Marco Rivera. If there is a new deal, the cap could move to as high as $104 million, and the Cowboys will have roughly $20 million of space and the same ability to create more room. Now if the cowboys are currently somewhere between 8-10 million and a new CBA is reached that gives them about 20 million. That isnt counting the 9.6 million they will save when they restructure Rivera and Fergusons contracts. They are also trying to restructure Allens contract and could possible cut Singleton. Add that all up, and you are easily at nearly 30 million.

Heres one of the places

We'll have to trade for him, he's currently on the Texans... Maybe trade our next years first for him. At 5'8" 180lbs he would make an excellent pro OT.

It seems the owners are planning on meeting in the middle. The players should now go down to 58%. This would also give every other team 10 mil to work with. Its being reported that the Cowboys could be near 30 million in extra cap space. Thats pending a few more cuts and restructured contracts.

^^ Chris McKenzie

Gateb you must struggle in your reading and english classes. It seems me or someone else is always pointing out something you missed. *Helpful tip of the Day* Read over the post twice or even three times before you reply. And remember, Readers are Leaders!

I dont like the idea of trading next years first for a couple big reasons. 1. If Tiki goes down with an injury we screw our self out of a top ten pick. 2. Just looking back at the Eli trade and with the understanding that it was possible for us to end up with a player like Merriman, makes it very hard to swallow. I will never want us to trade away future picks again mainly because you are putting way too much stock into one player. And that was for the first overall pick we traded for. You are talking about trading a future 1st for a guy that is coming back from a major knee injury. It wasnt any major knee injury either, it was a torn ACL in his left knee were all his weight is placed majority of the time while playing LT. To much of a risk IMO. If Winston slips it has nothing to do with the quality in this draft. Its all about that left knee and if he can continue playing LT in the pros. I also understand it takes 2 years to recover from that injury thats why im not bringing up how he played this past season. If you watched some of those Miami games he was far from the player he was before the injury. Personally I think he'll start his career as a RT in the pros and eventually make the switch to LT. I would not trade for him. *also that 29th pick might end up going to the Jets for Abraham.

If we could get our hands on Glover I would probally piss my pants out of excitement. He would make our dline so dominant.

He could go as early as the Browns and I dont think he gets past the Cowboys.

I completely agree and I was never meaning to make Hill out to be some bad player. This guy here posting about Hill obvoiusly took it to heart when I mentioned the play Hill got toasted. I wouldnt want either at 25 as well, I think we can do much better by drafting a LB or DT. The two Im high on are Sims at WLB and Bunkley at DT. I would love to get either one of those guys at 25. Im also high on Jason Allen, he's a very good player. It seemed he really flew under the radar for most of the season. I think he easily has 1st round talent... with such a great combine Im starting to really doubt he makes it to us. Another guy I would like in the 2nd is Cedric Griffen.

Dude re-read #8 and click the link

That is by far the dumbest fucking post I have ever read. You proved to me a few things in that one post. 1. You think Im going to buy some shit like "i was talking about this other play" lol get real 2. You never watched the game and tried to bull shit someone who actually did. 3. You didnt comprehend anything that I said. You must of missed the part I said I wasnt judging on one play. 4. You have no concept of how the Senior bowl is played. Never once did I say Hill was a bad player or he will go undrafted. Are you 12? maybe 11? You try to defend yourself and argue like you are. The best thing you couldve done was stay away from replying to this, you made yourself look real stupid.

I have Sims then Jackson, but everything else you said in there I agree 100% with. I also would definitely take Rocky McIntosh over Thomas Howard. I should've added one of those fancy pictures of Sims with my post.

Yea me too, maybe we should make a thread stating what Jerry Reese would actually do...

Did you see the play? Wait... did you even watch the game?? How did Moss catch a pass from Cutler when Cutler wasnt even on the same team??!! Cutler played for the North, you shouldnt have commented or even tried to sound like a smart ass if you didnt even watch the game. Moss had Hill 10-15 yards behind him. Brodie Croyle threw the ball into the endzone, Moss burnt the shit out of Hill to get it... I could have thrown that pass he was so wide open. That 4.3 speed really did a good job for him didnt it, so lets keep that in mind. And Im not judging on one play. He had an overall good senior bowl week. He practiced great, shuting everyone down. The big match up was Hill vs Moss going into the senior bowl. He obvioulsy lost, it just happened to be when the competition actually got tough. lol, Now where did you get Cromarties 40 time at?

The one I dont want is Thomas Howard. He's a good second round pick but not first round caliber IMO.

I think drafting a TE will be a waste of a pick. We are fine with Shaincoe and Berton as backups. If Berton isnt brought back we should replace him with a cheap FA. But I feel Berton did a solid job and should be brought back to at least compete in camp.

Howard dropped two balls thrown directly at him during the senior bowl. I've personally watched Sims make some unbelievable catches, there is nothing wrong with Sims hands just because he is the natural LB. I think its stupid to put one LB ahead of another because you feel he might have better hands "because he played safety". They are both very good in pass coverage. If you feel he has better potential then Sims, then thats your opinion but I hope you arent basing that on those reasons you just stated. I also dont understand when someone can judge and rank a player so high but has obvoiusly never seen them play. Now I watch a lot of college football and I have never seen a UTEP game on TV. The only explosure I got to Howard was the senior bowl. Which you obvoiusly didnt see. Howard struggled vs the run and taking on blocks. He was good in coverage but dropped two balls thrown directly at him. Some hands... Sims, IMO, is the better backer. You want reasons I'll give you plenty. 1. He's ready right now. We need a starter if we are drafting a WLB in the first round not a project. 2. Despite his size, he is very good vs the run. Unlike Howard. 3. Rolling on from #2, he doesnt struggle with taking on blocks. 4. Sims is just as good as Howard in pass coverage. In our system and in most defensive systems WLBs are rarely asked to cover. Besides Howards speed thats his only other major positive and he wont be asked to use it very often. With Osi and Strahan we need a LB that can help contribute vs the run. 5. Ernie Sims is a very Intense player who plays very aggresive. Something our defense seriously lacks. 6. Sims is a PLAYMAKER. I seen this guy countless times step up and make a big play for FSU. 7. Sims is all about tradition and has a very good head on his shoulders 8. Scott Wright is wrong about one thing on Sims, Sims has never missed a game in his career. Heres your link 9. Sims is nearly just as fast as Howard and certainly just as quick. 10. Ernie Sims has faced top level competition. Howard has not. What holds Ernie Sims out of a top 20 pick is two things. Leaving school early and being undersized. Now I'll admit Im really high on Sims, but I have plenty good reasons to be. Right now he's our best option in the first round at WLB. lol Thanks Money

LBs fastest 40 times Three prospects that ran under 4.5: Thomas Howard of UTEP (4.46), Jon Alston of Stanford (4.45) and Ernie Sims of Florida State (4.46). Four guys ran under the 4.6: Ohio St.'s A.J. Hawk (4.59), Brandon Johnson of Louisville (4.51), Miami's (Ohio) Tarna Nande (4.54) and Miami's (Fla.) Leon Williams (4.59) *Said to be the fastest group ever *Greenway and Howard worked out at Safety as well

DBacks fastest 40 times Two guys ran under 4.3: Tye Hill of Clemson and Tim Jennings of Georgia. Four posted times below 4.4: South Carolina's Johnathan Joseph (4.36), Texas' Michael Huff (4.36), Tennessee's Jason Allen (4.35) and Florida State's Antonio Cromartie (4.39). Five were just above 4.4: Nebraska's Daniel Bullocks (4.40), Howard's Antoine Bethea (4.40), Miami's Devin Hester (4.41), Baylor's Willie Andrew (4.45) and Texas' Cedric Griffin (4.46). *Darnell Bing worked out at LB as well as Safety