Tempest

6 hours ago, Pdouble said:

I don’t know why anyone had faith Lorenzo Carter was going to impress this year.  
 

id rather give Roche and Ximines all his snaps.  At least Ximines is under contract next season. 

I wish when the drafted Carter they would focus on developing him for pass coverage because we have this blind zone in the middle of the field every team in the NFL throws to for a first down.   You could throw it to the punter in the middle of the field for a twenty yard conversion on third down.

If the doctors say he is ready and he wants to play, let him play.

15 hours ago, CrazedDogs said:

Since Tomlinson generally comes off the field on third down and other passing situations, his departure probably isn't much of a factor in Williams' reduced sack numbers.

 

This would be accurate.  Lawrence is usually out there with Williams, not Tomlinson.  I'm less concerned with Williams than our edge rushers.  They simply have been getting run over and failing to set the edge never mind getting pressure on the QB.  Now they have been improving but they are far from acceptable so far this season.

2 hours ago, BlueInCanada said:

To me it tells the story of: we should of made more of an effort to keep Tomlinson.

 

Please elaborate.  How does keeping Tomlinson help Leonard Williams and the pass rush.

Lack of critical thinking

8 minutes ago, Nas said:

I understand and agree.   I think my discontent comes from drafting guys like Barkley (while arguably a good player) before addressing the OLine which is needed for anyone, including RB, to be successful in the offense.    

Thing with the offensive line is that it wasn't one player away from good in 2018 and we needed five.  Taking Quenton Nelson at 2?  We would still be terrible and the record would be worse.  Barkley makes the team better offensively (he moves the chains, scores points, etc.)  I think we have four of the five right now.

6 hours ago, Nas said:

I do agree that this team is improving... and I like what I see.   I can not however excuse quite a bit of DG's decisions in drafting and signing FAs.    

Dude, there has never been a NY GM that any of us agreed with when it comes to drafting and signing FAs.  George Young, Ernie Accorsi, Jerry Reese; they all had a couple of great players they drafted or FA signing. Most of the players they drafted were average, some were bad and others were simply criminal.

Gettleman was drafting and signing guys for one head coach his staff and is now drafting players for another head coach and his staff.  He had to clean house to bring in players and some were signed by Reese for another head coach.  It has been a crazy four years:  Sterling Shepard is the longest tenured player on the NY Giants at 6 seasons.  He has had 4 head coaches, 2 starting QBs, etc.

There goes the $100 million coach.

4 hours ago, Sephiroth said:

I wish I could punch Evan Engram in the face. 

Me too

Oh yay more stats.

So is anyone surprised by those numbers and do they simply conclude our pass rushers are terrible and we must draft a pass rusher three years ago but Gettleman needs to go and everyone can go with him.  

I continue to think the team has gotten better week to week and as the pass defense tightens up, the sack numbers will too and the silly metric/chart up there.

Wish I could tell you that I'm surprised at the play to date of Carter/Ximines so far.   

It looked like a sprain on the field.

7 hours ago, Nas said:

Agreed… I was very upset with the Jones injury especially without giving a fuck about the game/football (I’d suffered a vicious neck injury years ago and I feared for the kid)

I'm hoping he is going to be ok.  He really needs to learn from this hit and start taking his own well being seriously.  He did not have to run it in himself, watching the replay you could see Rudolph running parallel in the endzone giving Jones the option of just throwing the ball away.  I understand Jones wanting to do everything he can for the team but at the cost of his health, that price is too high.

I'll admit I turned it off sometime during the third quarter.  The odds of the Giants continuing to challenge the Cowboys on the field without Jones, Barkley, & Golladay was beyond possibility.  Giants played a great first half and we could have seen a better second half if those guys were healthy.

Jones really wanted that TD, now how does he convince anyone to put him back in the game?

Good thing we have Booker, the guy nobody here would have signed this offseason.

Yeah it is part of the dumb stuff I've been reading all week.  Yes lets trade Slayton because we now have John Ross who has caught 3 passes this year and half the passes Slayton has caught in his career and who comes up as John Ross Injury on google search.

I'm just worried about adding to that list during the game this Sunday.

Not sure if I'm going to watch it live or replay, always watch it from start to finish.  Giants can beat the Cowboys on Sunday if they continue to build on what works:  GOLLADAY ALL DAY LONG

Once he gets going, you can throw to everyone else but Evan Engram.

Tae Crowder will be fine and Carter Coughlin is behind him in case of injury.

17 hours ago, NeMesiS said:

The problem is the OLine. Its horrible at best. Though, I must admit... they played great against the Saints. Jason Garrett playbook is probably cut in half because of the OLine. I'm telling you, if we get the running game going, the offense is going to be unstoppable. 

Doing better than horrible at the moment and remember we're already down two starters.  I think it continues to play better if we can keep Golladay going.

23 hours ago, BlueInCanada said:

No but it was Garrett who was calling the most vanilla offense for the first three weeks and Graham is still calling a league worst defense. 

This was the second time ever Jones has passed for more than 300 yards ok his career. 

Also let's not act like the defense stonewalled the Saints. 

The Giants found soemthibg that worked offensively. 

Let Jones go trigger happy out there and keep feeding Golladay, Barkley and Toney. 

The defense on the other hand got lucky a lot today. 

Lets skip the play calling on offense and defense for a moment here.  Dropped balls, missed blocks and tackles.  You know the play calling requires you to make the block, catch, and tackle.  Players have been doing none of the above very well at all and the penalty killing drives is once again on them.  Team has been improving on both sides of the ball since the start of the season and we finally got a win to show for it.

Giants can roll through the rest of the season just keep on getting the ball Golladay until they stop him.  Then try the other receivers on the roster.

49 minutes ago, Joe Guyden said:

It almost seems like coaches vs players and the players finally overcame the coaches. 

Because it is the coaches out there dropping passes, missing blocks and tackles.  I see the win as the players finally doing what they are supposed to be doing.

Defense made a lot of key stops in the game, especially in the fourth quarter to give the offense the chance to tie the game up and win it in overtime.  Pass protection continues to solidify giving Jones time in the pocket.

I believe we have a use for Evan Engram now, as a decoy.  3 Saints converged on him as the ball sailed overhead to a wide open Barkley.  Every team in the NFL has over four years of footage of Engram running the absolutely pitiful 3-5 yard flats and drag routes and the Giants feeding him the ball.

I think Kenny Golladay is the second coming of Plaxico Burress.  Get him the ball all day long, he just makes plays.  Giants need to throw the ball to open up the run game and do it until the defense stops it.  Don't run it just because we completed a pass last down.

6 hours ago, Nas said:

I’m shocked you guys are down on Judge already…. I want to give him the space he needs before looking for an alternative.   I don’t think anyone here expected a Super Bowl run this year and it’s not like this team has been stinking up the joint… I get we’re 0-3 but this could have been 2-1.   

I wish I was as shocked as you are.  They're back in fire everyone mode and the team isn't winning another game ever because 

Until he has a bad game and the fan base needs another scapegoat.