HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) Money's comment in this thread, motivated me: Post 15 So here's my list, just off the top of my head, in the last few minutes, of the All-Time Best Token White Defensive Player from each team in the NFL: NFC East: Bill Bates - Dallas Cowboys - Late 80's early 90's. Gary Reasons - NY Giants Dick Butz - Washington Redskins -Philadelphia NFC North Gary Fencik - Chicago Bears 1985 Chris Spielman - Detroit Lions 1990 ish Ray Nitschke - Green Bay Packers Jack Del Rio - Minnesota Vikings NFC South John Lynch - TB Bucs Kevin Greene - Carolina Panthers Keith Brooking - Atlanta Falcons - New Orleans Saints NFC West Jack Youngblood - Rams Hacksaw Reynolds - 49ers Seattle Seahawks ... all the cool players on this team played offense! Conrad Dobler - Cardinals AFC East Mike Vrabel - New England Patriots Joe Klecko - NY Jets Jim Haslett - Buffalo Bills Zach Thomas - Miami Dolphins AFC North Tim Krumrie - Cincy Bengals Tony Siragusa - Baltimore Raisins ugh it pains me to say that. Jack Lambert - Pittsburgh (Thank you Barens) Cleveland AFC South Mad Dog Curtis - Colts Blaine Bishop? - Titans He's kinda "off-white" Dom Capers- Texans Jack Del Rio - Jacksonville Jaguars AFC West Karl Mecklenburg - Denver Broncos - San Diego Superchargers - Kansas City Chiefs Lyle Alzado - Oakland Raiders Open slots available for Philly, New Orleans, Seattle, Cleveland, San Diego and Kansas City. The Texans are so young I gave 'em their former coach Dom Capers, who's a solid Defensive Coordinator. I just couldn't bring myself to list Seth Payne. Jack Del Rio made it twice! As a player for Minnesota and a Coach for the Jaguars. Anybody who approves putting axes in the lockerroom derserves this distinction. Before anybody criticizes me for selecting Gary Fencik over Dick Butkus for the Bears I did so for two reasons. First, Fencik's nickname was the "Hitman". Second, Butkus was way too tough to be white. Edited April 10, 2006 by HOUND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinryan Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Hey HOUND long time no see. How have you been? Interesting topic you got here. By the way, I still remember your priceless quote from the story you posted on the Giants Message Board. "If bathrooms could press charges this one would have a great case against me". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I'm offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoachLubrano Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Hmmm, how about me? (check the sig...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 Hmmm, how about me? (check the sig...) Coach .. you look like you just allowed the receiver to beat you deep. What's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoachLubrano Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Coach .. you look like you just allowed the receiver to beat you deep. What's going on? Check out the number I'm wearing - #70. You don't see a lot of defensive backs wearing that number. I was playing defensive end. #3 is the quarterback. He's on his way to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 Hey HOUND long time no see. How have you been? Interesting topic you got here. By the way, I still remember your priceless quote from the story you posted on the Giants Message Board. "If bathrooms could press charges this one would have a great case against me". What's up Ryan? Good to hear from you. My wife and I had a baby in early March so my computer time isn't what it used to be. Glad to hear the sound of my name illicits bad bathroom memories for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 Check out the number I'm wearing - #70. You don't see a lot of defensive backs wearing that number. I was playing defensive end. #3 is the quarterback. He's on his way to the ground. I dunno Coach ... jersey numbers don't mean much until you're in the NFL. My freshman year of high school I played outside linebacker and wore #62. You may need to post another photo to convince me here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoachLubrano Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I dunno Coach ... jersey numbers don't mean much until you're in the NFL. My freshman year of high school I played outside linebacker and wore #62. You may need to post another photo to convince me here! Sadly, that's the only picture I can find of me in action. I sacked that kid twice that game, and once the year before. That picture is one of the many pressures I had on him that game. He had just gotten rid of the ball as I extended my arms and pushed him to the ground - he's on his way to the ground in that shot. He was a pretty athletic kid otherwise I would've been on him before he got a chance to release the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Sadly, that's the only picture I can find of me in action. I sacked that kid twice that game, and once the year before. That picture is one of the many pressures I had on him that game. He had just gotten rid of the ball as I extended my arms and pushed him to the ground - he's on his way to the ground in that shot. He was a pretty athletic kid otherwise I would've been on him before he got a chance to release the ball. Was that at Polk High? Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 Sadly, that's the only picture I can find of me in action. I sacked that kid twice that game, and once the year before. That picture is one of the many pressures I had on him that game. He had just gotten rid of the ball as I extended my arms and pushed him to the ground - he's on his way to the ground in that shot. He was a pretty athletic kid otherwise I would've been on him before he got a chance to release the ball. Had you already shoved him at the moment this photo is shot? If not, and he's already gotten rid of the ball, I might flag you for Roughing the Passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoachLubrano Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Had you already shoved him at the moment this photo is shot? If not, and he's already gotten rid of the ball, I might flag you for Roughing the Passer. Haha actually, it was a little bit late, considering the rules expressly state that you can't extend your arms to push the QB down after he's thrown, but the kid is a real douchebag, I knew him outside of football. I had already shoved him at the moment the photo was shot. It's funny you mentioned that because the referee was like, "You're gonna' have to try better than that, 70!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barens Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Pittsburgh has got to be the easiest answer here with Jack Lambert and Jack Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 Pittsburgh has got to be the easiest answer here with Jack Lambert and Jack Ham. Thank you ... I don't know why I was drawing a blank with the Steelers. I knew there had to be some obvious choices. Let's go with Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinryan Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 What's up Ryan? Good to hear from you. My wife and I had a baby in early March so my computer time isn't what it used to be. Glad to hear the sound of my name illicits bad bathroom memories for you! I'm doing fine. Like you my computer time has decreased. I'm currently using one at college since the one at home doesn't have the internet. Good to here from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 The "Token White Guy on every great defense" is my favorite goofy sports theory. That's why it's vital that we bring back Greisen. If something happens to Blackburn, we're screwed! Recently for the Steelers, Aaron Smith and Chris Hoke have been fine TWGs. Bears have had Urlacher and Hunter Hillenmayer, while the Panthers have Dan Morgan. When Tommy was with the Jags, he had Seth Payne and Rob Meier. At their best, the Titans had Jason Fisk in the middle. Why did the Bucs return to defensive prominence? Because they finally found Lynch's replacement: Chris Hovan. Gruden is smart, too ... he locked up Hovan with a 5-year extension. He also drafted Barrett Ruud last year as insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 I should do a "All Time White Guy" roster. I think there would be a LOT of Montana to Largent, with a bit of Unitas to Alworth mixed in! That team would have to be a pass first offense. Not too many running backs to choose from. Handoff Larry Csonka! Goal line carries go to John Riggins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoachLubrano Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Chris Hovan. Gruden is smart, too ... he locked up Hovan with a 5-year extension. I've always thought Hovan was an underappreciated d-tackle. He's always trying to jump the snap, he's lightning fast off the ball, and he never gives up on a play. Incredible motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 I've always thought Hovan was an underappreciated d-tackle. He's always trying to jump the snap, he's lightning fast off the ball, and he never gives up on a play. Incredible motor. The early Chris Hovan was that way. The Chris Hovan in his final two seasons in Minnesota was a bum. Underachieved like crazy. Maybe it's something about being a Minnesota Defensive Player. None of them seem to perform to expectation (EJ Henderson, Udeze, E. James, D. Thomas). Anyway, Hovan needed to get out. The change of scenery seems to have done him good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jeans Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 This post is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUND Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 Please explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) conrad dobler was an offensive lineman. brian bosworth for seattle Edited April 10, 2006 by blunatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 This post is racist. ??? there shouldnt be posts about white football players? Does this offend our Afro-American brothers that there not part of this conversation? racist?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nutty Sack Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 When we trade Shockey for the number 4 pick in the draft, we'll have AJ Hawk to boats as our token defensive white guy !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyoneli Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 When we trade Shockey for the number 4 pick in the draft, we'll have AJ Hawk to boats as our token defensive white guy !! You gotta lay off the LSD, dye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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