Plax 4 Prez Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Harrison's career in Indy may be ending INDIANAPOLIS -- Marvin Harrison's reluctance to take a pay cut could mark the end of his career in Indianapolis. Renegotiation talks between the Colts and Harrison were unsuccessful during the weekend, and he is close to asking the team for his release, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton. NFL.com cited a league source late Sunday as saying that he had already asked the team to release him. Colts president Bill Polian told reporters Sunday at the NFL's annual scouting combine that the team was trying to rework Harrison's deal to lower the receiver's salary cap number from approximately $13.4 million, the highest number of any wideout in the NFL. Harrison is scheduled to make $9 million in 2009. If Harrison decides against a redoing his contract, the only other options for the Colts would be to keep Harrison at his cap number or to release him. Harrison has been one of the Colts' most identifiable players since their move to Indianapolis. He ranks No. 2 in the NFL in career receptions (1,102) and holds all of the franchise's major career and season receiving records. He is also 36 years old, coming off one of the least productive seasons of his career -- he missed all but five games in 2007 -- and with the Colts in a salary cap crunch, Polian may not be able to keep Harrison at his current price. Next year's cap is expected to be $123 million. "The new cap rules, that's not something we planned for," Polian said. "As a result, we have some issues with veterans, including Marvin. Hopefully, we'll find a way to work through that. I don't know if we will, but we hope to." Earlier this week, Colts head coach Jim Caldwell said he was hopeful Harrison would be able to return to the team, but it was apparent the franchise is unwilling to have him on the team with a $13.4 million cap number. Though the team isn't expected to make a decision on Harrison until Thursday, when all teams have to be under the salary cap, Harrison could speed up the process by asking for his release to give him time to find a new team, a source told Clayton. Since being drafted by the Colts in 1996, Harrison has been a model of consistency. He's made eight Pro Bowls and won a Super Bowl ring. His 14,550 yards rank fourth on the NFL's career list and he's No. 5 with 128 TD catches. Harrison and Peyton Manning also teamed to produce the most proficient passing tandem in league history. But Manning has increasingly thrown more passes to Reggie Wayne, who has made the last three Pro Bowls, while Anthony Gonzalez, Indy's first-round draft pick in 2007, has made a push for more playing time. Polian and Caldwell have repeatedly said they do not believe Harrison's skills are deteriorating. "What I saw is a guy who is as quick as he's been, with the same hands and he has the ability he's always had," Caldwell said Thursday. Philadelphia police also believe one of Harrison's guns was used in a shooting in his hometown last summer. No charges were filed against Harrison, and the man who made the accusation is now headed to trial for lying to police. Harrison isn't the only veteran the Colts could lose this week. Polian said Sunday that he had made an offer to three-time Pro Bowl center Jeff Saturday and Saturday was "mulling it over." Saturday, however, told The Associated Press later that he has discussed it with his wife and has decided to become a free agent. Players can beginning signing with other teams on Friday. "I think I made it very clear that I wanted to stay in Indy, that's where my wife and family wanted to stay, and I wanted to retire here," he said. "But I'm moving into free agency because my wife and I decided this is what is best for our family, though I've not completely ruled out playing for the Colts." Saturday has started 138 games in nine seasons and is responsible for making blocking calls along the line. Those two, along with Manning and punter Hunter Smith, are the longest-tenured players on the Colts roster. Smith's agent, Thomas Mills, has said Smith also does not expect to be re-signed by the Colts before Friday. Saturday said he was surprised by the offer and has made his decision. "After Kelvin [Hayden] was done, Bill called and we met and that's when he came with the offer," Saturday said. "We discussed it" Saturday would not discuss details of the Colts' offer or characterize the contents. The problem for Indianapolis is salary cap space. On Thursday, the Colts signed Hayden, a corrnerback, to a new five-year, $43 million deal. That means since 2004, Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Ryan Diem, Bob Sanders, Dallas Clark and Ryan Lilja have all signed contracts worth at least $19 million. Polian does not believe those deals have put Indy in the money pinch; the new salary cap rules have. Clearly, though, Harrison's six-year $66 million deal, with $22 million in bonuses, signed in December 2004 is now proving too costly and if Harrison doesn't accept a pay cut, he may be looking for work in another city. "I don't want to characterize the discussions," Polian said of the negotiations with Harrison. "But we are impacted by the salary cap for the first time in 11 years." ESPN Link Ugh... He's lost alot of steps. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lubeck Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nope he's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInCanada Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 No. He still thinks he can be a #1 WR on a team. At most he's a #2 but mostly he's going to be a slot/possession WR for some team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 nah im good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax 4 Prez Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Him being 36, plus he's not overly healthy, on top of the fact that he wants starter pay really throws him out of the race for us. I think he will restructure his contract and stay with the Colts, cause he has to know that at his age he doesn't have many options. Unless Al Davis gets him like he did Jerry Rice. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehugger Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 He's got a worse issue than Plax (attempted murder charge?) looming over him too. Hardly what we're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 spitting image of amani toomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax 4 Prez Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 spitting image of amani toomer. He's got a little more speed then Toomer I think, but I'd still stick with Toomer over Harrison for the simple fact of he's cheaper and knows our offense as good as anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax 4 Prez Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Source: Colts’ Harrison reluctant to take pay cut INDIANAPOLIS (AP)—Marvin Harrison’s reluctance to take a pay cut could mark the end of his career in Indianapolis. Colts president Bill Polian told reporters Sunday at the NFL’s annual scouting combine that the team was trying to rework Harrison’s deal to lower the receiver’s salary cap number from approximately $13.4 million, the highest number of any wide out in the NFL. But a person familiar with the negotiations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the team has not made an announcement, later told The Associated Press that Harrison “probably would not be interested in” reducing his base salary. If Harrison decides against a redoing his contract, the only other options for the Colts would be to keep Harrison at his cap number or to release him. Harrison has been one of the Colts’ most identifiable players since their move to Indianapolis. He ranks No. 2 in the NFL in career receptions (1,102) and holds all of the franchise’s major career and season receiving records. He is also 36 years old, coming off one of the least productive seasons of his career—he missed all but five games in 2007—and with the Colts in a salary cap crunch, Polian may not be able to keep Harrison at his current price. Next year’s cap is expected to be $123 million. “The new cap rules, that’s not something we planned for,” Polian said. “As a result, we have some issues with veterans, including Marvin. Hopefully, we’ll find a way to work through that. I don’t know if we will, but we hope to.” Since being drafted by the Colts in 1996, Harrison has been a model of consistency. He’s made eight Pro Bowls and won a Super Bowl ring. His 14,550 yards rank fourth on the NFL’s career list and he’s No. 5 with 128 TD catches. Harrison and Peyton Manning also teamed to produce the most proficient passing tandem in league history. But Manning has increasingly thrown more passes to Reggie Wayne, who has made the last three Pro Bowls, while Anthony Gonzalez, Indy’s first-round draft pick in 2007, has made a push for more playing time. Polian and coach Jim Caldwell have repeatedly said they do not believe Harrison’s skills are deteriorating. “What I saw is a guy who is as quick as he’s been, with the same hands and he has the ability he’s always had,” Caldwell said Thursday. Philadelphia police also believe one of Harrison’s guns was used in a shooting in his hometown last summer. No charges were filed against Harrison, and the man who made the accusation is now headed to trial for lying to police. Harrison isn’t the only veteran the Colts could lose this week. Polian said Sunday that he had made an offer to three-time Pro Bowl center Jeff Saturday and Saturday was “mulling it over.” Saturday, however, told The Associated Press later that he has discussed it with his wife and has decided to become a free agent. Players can beginning signing with other teams on Friday. “I think I made it very clear that I wanted to stay in Indy, that’s where my wife and family wanted to stay, and I wanted to retire here,” he said. “But I’m moving into free agency because my wife and I decided this is what is best for our family, though I’ve not completely ruled out playing for the Colts.” Saturday has started 138 games in nine seasons and is responsible for making blocking calls along the line. Those two, along with Manning and punter Hunter Smith, are the longest-tenured players on the Colts roster. Smith’s agent, Thomas Mills, has said Smith also does not expect to be re-signed by the Colts before Friday. Saturday said he was surprised by the offer and has made his decision. “After Kelvin (Hayden) was done, Bill called and we met and that’s when he came with the offer,” Saturday said. “We discussed it” Saturday would not discuss details of the Colts’ offer or characterize the contents. The problem for Indianapolis is salary cap space. On Thursday, the Colts signed Hayden, a corrnerback, to a new five-year, $43 million deal. That means since 2004, Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Ryan Diem, Bob Sanders, Dallas Clark and Ryan Lilja have all signed contracts worth at least $19 million. Polian does not believe those deals have put Indy in the money pinch; the new salary cap rules have. Clearly, though, Harrison’s six-year $66 million deal, with $22 million in bonuses, signed in December 2004 is now proving too costly and if Harrison doesn’t accept a pay cut, he may be looking for work in another city. “I don’t want to characterize the discussions,” Polian said of the negotiations with Harrison. “But we are impacted by the salary cap for the first time in 11 years.” Another updated ESPN article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 The Colts just agreed to release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnThePhilFans Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Nopeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax 4 Prez Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Just like blunatic said... He's basically what Amani Toomer is right now... just higher priced, and he doesn't know our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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