Virginia Giant Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 All I could find. Blockbuster Party The Tigers and Marlins have agreed in principle to a monster trade -- Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to Detroit for Andrew Miller, Cameron Maybin and four minor leaguers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Yahoo Sports Tigers get Cabrera, Willis from Marlins December 4, 2007 BRISTOL, Connecticut (Ticker) - The Detroit Tigers apparently have won the sweep stakes for Miguel Cabrera. According to a report on ESPN.com, the Tigers have acquired the third baseman and lefthander Dontrelle Willis from the Florida Marlins for six players. The Marlins will receive lefthander Andrew Miller, outfielder Cameron Maybin, catcher Mike Rabelo and three minor leaguers. (MORE) Updated on Tuesday, Dec 4, 2007 6:44 pm, EST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateb Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Five years down the road the Tigers will be kicking themselves. Maybin will be the catalyst on a great Marlins offense and Miller will be shredding through the NL. Willis will be get killed in the AL and Cabrera will continue to be a great hitter. Marlins got the better side IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Five years down the road the Tigers will be kicking themselves. Maybin will be the catalyst on a great Marlins offense and Miller will be shredding through the NL. Willis will be get killed in the AL and Cabrera will continue to be a great hitter. Marlins got the better side IMO. Five years is a long way off, B. This give Detroit a truly awesome line up. With any kind of pitching, they are going to be bad, very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 who knows how these prospects will turn out. if maybin and miller are both all-stars in five years but detroit won a championship or was in the world series a few times then i'd have a hard time saying detroit lost the deal. none of the other 4 prospects are supposed to be worth anything anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 What does anyone know about Alex Rios? Rumor is Lincecum (ok) or Cain (no) for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 good trade for the blue jays, horrible for the giants...imagine if that trade happens...the young pitching talent in the AL East would be insane...Kazmir, Garza, Sheilds, Hughes, Chamberlain, Kennedy, Cain/Lincecum, Bedard, Buttholtz, Marcum...damn dropped the gat from my hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 i don't see how that makes it horrible for the giants. we definitely need hitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 rios is nasty but no way i trade cain or lincecum for him. i'd rather take a flier on the japanese dude or one of the million OF's available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 that seems to be the sentiment among giants fans. sigh- i'll never see a splash hit again- it's like being a pads fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 What does anyone know about Alex Rios? Rumor is Lincecum (ok) or Cain (no) for him. I'd say the Giants are getting a sure thing, the Jays two maybes. Rios is a very good ball player, not great, but very good. Could turn out to be a 100 RBI/ 100 runs guy. An excellent fielder. If the Giants can afford the pitching, I think they should go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 Wasn't Rios in the home run derby a couple years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I'd say the Giants are getting a sure thing, the Jays two maybes. Rios is a very good ball player, not great, but very good. Could turn out to be a 100 RBI/ 100 runs guy. An excellent fielder. If the Giants can afford the pitching, I think they should go for it. I don't know about maybe- Cain is definitely a horse. Lincecum showed all signs of becoming the next Roy Oswaldt. I say pass on this guy. These 2 pitchers are the kind that win championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 if the pitcher and hitter are equal you never trade the pitcher for the hitter. besides, they aren't equal, cain is better than rios already and lincecum is on his way to being better as well. rios is good but he wont get any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeMeSomeFoodHo Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 am I the only one that is annoyed by the fact that the marlins 2008 payroll will be about 7 million dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 if the pitcher and hitter are equal you never trade the pitcher for the hitter. besides, they aren't equal, cain is better than rios already and lincecum is on his way to being better as well. rios is good but he wont get any better i just heard sabean say toronto is not interested in cain, only lincecum. which (reading between the lines) means he offered cain. that's surprising to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 sabaen's too smart to deal one of those guys for an above-average OF who has a track record of a whole 2 years playing at that level. i wouldn't go as far as to say the alex rios' of the world are a dime a dozen, but they are certainly more available than the cain's and lincecum's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 sabaen's too smart to deal one of those guys for an above-average OF who has a track record of a whole 2 years playing at that level. i wouldn't go as far as to say the alex rios' of the world are a dime a dozen, but they are certainly more available than the cain's and lincecum's yet not too smart to sign dave roberts, ray durham and randy winn long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 i dont know the specifics of their contracts but i had been kind of reserving judgment on his handling of the offense until bonds was finally gone. i know they tried hard for aramis ramirez and soriana last season before finally taking bonds back, i'd love to see if there really is going to be a noticeable change in philosophy starting this offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 well, you can fault him for not developing any offensive talent in the minors- and we drafted as many as we did pitchers- they were all busts so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 If I were the Giants, I would certainly trade ONE of those pitchers for Rios. Rios is more than a little better than average IMO, and if he fills out while still being able to get around on a pitch, he can put up some mean numbers. He's also already established while both Cain or Lincecum are a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 cain is no longer a gamble, he's legit. lincecum is still unproven but he's shown flashes of brilliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 if rios was a center fielder, i'd probably do it. we have a lot of outfielders but none that play center well- a very important position in ATT park. otherwise, i don't see how much difference he'll make with the likes of durham and winn protecting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 if rios was a center fielder, i'd probably do it. we have a lot of outfielders but none that play center well- a very important position in ATT park. otherwise, i don't see how much difference he'll make with the likes of durham and winn protecting him. I imagine he can play center. He has the speed. They have Wells, who is probably one of the best around today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 i heard he can't be a CF and there's no wells on the giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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