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what makes you think he is a good blocker?

was kinda thinking the same thing myself. i'd atleast like to see someone that was skeptical to have some representation of the actual fan base.

he has never played fullback, and did well last year in goal line situations. all i have to say is, why?

you must be thinking of david tyree. in that case, i would agree and that's why i left him off the list.

agreed

unless santonio holmes or chad jackson is available there is no reason to take a receiver in round one. i wouldnt consider any of the other receivers a steal at that pick. and if we did take either jackson or holmes, i wouldnt shed any tears with carter, taylor, or ponder leaving. their kind of talent can be found on the street.

i wasnt comparing their careers, i was comparing how jacobs performed very well in preseason, to ron dayne performing very well in preseason, to show that it can't be used to judge a player's ability. i'm glad you mentioned that jacobs had 7 TDs on 38 carries. i DO believe that he is a good goal line runningback and has shown potential to be a great GOAL LINE runningback. however, i havent seen relevant evidence that suggests that he is featured-back material. i would not call college performance (especially at southern illilois) or preseason performance, relevant.

i would, but i gotta work

my opinion on this subject is this: if a runningback, such as deangelo williams, is the best player on the board, by a significant margin, we should take him. i think it's just illogical to take a player who you dont think is the best player on the board. i'm not sold on jacobs, i saw ron dayne look very good in preseason back in 04 too, so preseason is definately not something i would use to guage a player's ability. i do think jacobs has the makings of a good runningback other than his height, but in his extremely limited NFL action, it's hard to tell how good he actually is.

the glitch made you say something stupid again.

actually in the NFL there are rules as to what numbers players can choose.

i can't disagree with ya there. if the player we want isnt there, and a team like the colts would give up a lot to move up we should do it. i guess the point i was trying to make was that it's not necessary to get a runningback this year, but if a top runningback falls into our lap with the best defensive players off the board we should take the runningback. it's never too early to start looking for a replacement (unless you are ladanian tomlinson).

agreed. although i think the strategy should be the same, regardless of what happens to arrington.

well here's a better example, larry johnson. he was a good talent and the cheifs got him for a bargain, late in the first. they looked foolish initially, but it's looking like a pretty good idea now, no? i'm not saying this would pay off immediately, tiki barber probably does have atleast one year left in him. we're just not solid enough at the running back position to not consider drafting a backup.

my point is not that there is not any talent in the 4th round, but that the chances are slim to none. you named 10 runningbacks in a span of over 20 years, and bo jackson hardly counts. reuben droughns and olandis gary werent all that great either. my point is, there's a 10% chance we have 2 starting runningbacks on our roster. deangelo williams is a good enough talent and we are in a good enough need to take him if he is available. and no VG, it's not going to be a rookie outside linebacker that's going to push this team over the hump.

well i guess we can't rule out blackburn to be a stud linebacker than... oh yeah, we can be 90% sure he wont be. jacobs didnt spell tiki because that's not what he is suited for, the chances of him being a starting runningback in this league are slim to none. the same could be said about ward. we have almost zero depth at runningback. if (god forbid) something happens to tiki barber, we're screwed. it's just silly to pass up on such a great talent when our only starting runningback is over 30 years old. he's done fantastic but you only have to look back at history to know he will slow down soon. look at marshall faulk, preist holmes, emmit smith. injuries happen, and more likely to the older guys. the rams and cheifs had backup plans, the cowboys waited and they sucked for 4 years in a row while they waited for emmit to leave.

uhh, he's a 4th round pick. 6'4'' 265. does he really deserve the benefit of the doubt? i just dont expect him to be a starter, and apparently neither does coach coughlin. he was never used in place of tiki barber, strictly on goal line and short situations. there's no reason to believe he is starting material, if he was, he probably would have been picked a lot sooner than he was last year.

scratch that, we passed on cromartie, kinda dumb move there. but seriously, we should give deangelo williams a good look if he is available when we pick. i'd much rather take him then reach for a player just because we're in need of a linebacker. (in this case i'd have to say i'd definately take cromartie though)

i honestly would not be totally against this move. for some odd reason deangelo williams' stock is dropping and it could be a bargain to get him that late in the draft. think 5 years down the road would you rather have a starter at linebacker or a stud runningback? it's not too early to be looking for tiki's replacement, especially since brandon jacobs doesnt appear to be starting material.

if there was a 4th round i'd take devin hester

i would disagree with that statement. football is a business and it would be a lot easier for the texans to market a runningback than a defensive end. i suspect that's why the lions took charles rogers out of local michigan state, but i can't confirm that.

can you believe i got him with the 3rd pick in the mock. once again i'd like to point out how i robbed the draft. reggie bush is a football god and like money said, unless he gets injured he is going to be downright spectacular. i love to watch him play and i cant wait till he gets to the nfl, especially since he will either be for an AFC team, or the saints (and they will probably always suck)

if a better defensive player was available when i made my picks i definately would have chosen them, but i felt when i made both of my picks that the players i chose were by far, the best players on the board. i have a 5 year plan

bah, i didnt have a 4th pick anyway. i already have the 2 most electrifying players in the draft, who needs a 3rd rounder?

hmm, i'm not sure if i understand the logic behind this move. we're thin as it is at defensive tackle.