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First game at Camden Yards and in the first inning the place sounds like the old Yankees stadium. Especially funny since Buck did his whole trash talking thing.

I am still very much into the draft, and football. These college kids coming the draft having nothing to do with the current negotiations and the teams are trying. There has to be a season, it's suppose to start on the tenth anniversary of 9/11 and is suppose to celebrate that date, if it doesn't happen, they will look like complete douches, even more so then they already have. The schedule was released just to give the fans something to look forward too and what else is there? Baseball Nascar NBA Playoffs :yawn: The NHL Playoffs are the only other thing that interest me right now. Yeah I know, I suppose their are other things, besides sports.

Baseball doesn't bore me like it used to so I have another sports outlet to put my free time into. I'm sure there will be a season but until its on paper I just don't care.

That's beautiful.

Seriously. Way to add the draft into the PR battle over your labor dispute NFL. Nice fucking job.

Of course none of those would be necessary if the NFLPA wasn't already fucking with the draft plans.

Both sides are coming to the table with such radical ideas that I am seriously losing interest in the sport. I never would have thought I would say that but I honestly don't give a damn. The draft is a week away and I have not looked at one scouting report. I would normally be captivated on the draft but this year? I honestly don't care. The pre-season schedule? What is the point of coming up with a schedule when you don't even know if you will be playing? And then you add in the regular season? WTF is the point of coming up with a schedule for a season that will probably not exist? Oh thats right by creating a schedule you give beat reporters something to write about. Well done League you are givng reporters with nothing to report something to put on paper and exist.

Mid-tier players?....sounds like all the Giants linebackers.

Jack let me know that he is going to be sending you a strongly worded response that will highlight the athleticism of our white linebackers. In particular one who performs at such a level that he doesn't understand why we don't put that one person on the field to cover all three positions.

The players voted to de-certify so these players have every right to try and represent their own interests if they feel their interests differ from those at the table now.

Definitely Wright. Although it is close one because Pelf has been pushed by the Mets organization it seems the past couple years as an ace in development and he is a #3 starter at best.

Am I the only one who has taken what time I would put into the NFL during its offseason and completely devoted it to other things and doesn't give a shit about anything NFL until they can get a labor deal done?

posted so jack can have more hopefuls.

Jesus christ P I saw the topic title and I swore he was at it again.

Did anyone else hear about Antonio Pierce looking to rejoin the Redskins?

What I heard was he AND Arrington were looking to return.

And lose some too...

But there shall be no ties. Unless we are playing the Redskins.

Lol seriously though, you lost credibility when you bashed Strahan, Punk.

Wait....credability? When did Jack have that?

again where is the history part......can anyone cite a player of Tikis age, condition, and achievement coming back at 35 after 4 yrs out and failing......I just dont know who you're talking about?????

Can you cite someone who did?

who gives a shit?

Beat writers trying to find something to write about to justify their continued employment during a work stoppage.

I thought I remembered you doing so.... my bad. Could it have been Greg Comella? Did you ever like him? We need a fullback on your team Jack. And we already addressed HC. Our new head coach is Gruden.

I'm trying to think of an overrated white TE he pushed for.

Nice to see even after building a new billion dollar stadium.

And the majority of teams are looking at having to do the same thing. Most teams are in aging facilities that do not generate the revenue a modern stadium does. That is part of the owners argument for skimming an additional billion off the take.

They have also not forced any paycuts whereas the Jets 4 days into the lockout cut pay 25%.

This is the same shit that really soured me on baseball.....fucking strike cost Don Mattingly a chance for a World Series.

 

Woo puts it best...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8I9ZoWSYJg

Fucking great show. I'm going through the series DVDs right now and wow what an amazing show. Deadwood has to go down as a classic TV series for how well they portrayed the era and how the actors perfectly portrayed the era.

It is actually creepy having the guy who portrayed Wu explain how he did what he did in perfect english and then watch him portray a character who was oblivious to english.

I wanted to watch this last night but directtv blacked it out for some reason. Him and Montero are the only two untouchables, the other two killer B's can be expendable even though they have said Brackman has looked good has well

Yeah when I heard Mitre wasn't going to get the start and it would be Banuelos I made sure to tune in.

I know it wasn't the cleanest first time against some major leaguers in the lineup but he faced a lot of adversity and came out of it well. I really hope Cashman doesn't screw it up and trade away Banuelos because he has a lot of talent for such a young left hander. I know he is a huge value as a prospect but please Brian hold onto him and let him don the pinstripes one day.

Actually Cashman has said that there are some high level prospects that he considers untouchable....I hope Banuelos is one of them. Just listening to his postgame interview he comes across extremely confident and sure of himself. This is the kind of guy who if he pans out could be a true ace and lock down a strong rotation for years to come.

I got it, but still don't get why Goodell would even announce the pick of a player who will eventually be part of the union. Teams can not still not sign any of these draft picks to a contract. Even though they can negotiate a future contract.

They can't negotiate a future contract their ability to negotiate is limited to the team that drafted them. AFTER a new CBA is signed.

call me idiot, but isn't there no NFL right now. Under a work stoppage the NFL basically doesn't exist. So why would Goodell even go to the draft himself, and call the names of picks that are not going to work for him or any team for awhile. These kids should have the option to go back to school especially if they are underclassmen. They have no experience in anything, other then playing football. Even seniors are not gonna get a job. This kids who have been playing their way into the nfl for their whole life, will be working at McDonalds or Burger King just to pay the bills.

To the best of my knowledge they are not members of the NFLPA until they are signed by a team...which brings me back to the "How can the NFLPA be interacting with them".....I mean if the teams cannot interact with the players in any form during this work stoppage how can the NFLPA interact with a future player who isn't an NFLPA member...but anyways back to your point all they are doing is drafting the rights to negotiate with the players. It is a system entirely independent of any CBA.

LOL, I wasn't trying to imply anything against you, more like just trying to post what I thought I had read somewhere and didn't want to look like more of an idiot than I am.

Well then we are all idiots

This isn't where I heard it originally, it might have been one of the many NFL.com stories, but here's one story about it: Link

Figured I'd Google it instead of popping off at the mouth.

Honestly I can't even rebuke that cause I've brought the I'll Google That For You hammer down on people so well played sir. I'd even like to respond to your mild rebuke of me with the popping of the mouth comment but you are totally in the right so you get a gold star.

The other thing I don't understand is the NFLPA's resistance to a rookie salary cap. The owners offered a solution that would disperse money saved from that to veteran players. Why would a veteran have an issue getting more money because an unproven player gets paid less? Where else in the world does someone get paid multi millions for potentially being great? I've been with my company for 6 years now, and if some inexperienced douchebag sauntered into my office and got paid twice what I did, I'd be more that a little pissed. Prove you're the best, get the money. It ain't rocket science.

Honestly this is the first time I've heard the players having an issue with the rookie salary cap. Some dumbfuck who is respected by the sports media as an NFL reporter (I think it was Don Banks but it might have been his fuckbuddy and worst sports journalist in the world Peter King) said on WFAN the other day that the players agreed to a rookie pay scale.

So what? I'm pretty God damned good at my job, and the owner of my company makes money off what I do. He's also a tight wad and hasn't given me a raise in 4 years. If I went to him and said "I know you're making money off me, I want a cut" and he said "The economy sucks, can't afford it", and I replied "Bullshit. Show me the books"........after he was done laughing at me, I'd be standing in the unemployment line. They're owners, they own teams to make money, just as my boss owns the company to make money. Is it a shit headed thing to do? Yup. That's business. Don't like it? Buy a team.

 

What I don't understand is the owners cutting off their noses despite their faces. Why lock out the players if there's no CBA? You'd think the owners would be happy without a CBA. They'd just say to the players "Hey, superstar, yeah you're a top notch wide out, but you know what? We pay $100,000 a season for wide outs. Don't like that? Find another team". Like any business, here's the job offer. You like it? Great, welcome aboard. You don't? Good luck with your search. Especially now with no "union". The whole thing is ridiculous.

I tend to be pro owner but I have to admit the players have a good argument. Yes the owners are the ones paying their salaries, they are the ones paying for the infrastructure that supports the system, they are the ones paying, at least in part, for the stadiums, but they aren't the ones delivering the product. The product is the direct result of the players. Whereas in any other non-sport related business the boss is the one who is generally driving the business and using their knowledge to provide the product the product in the NFL is the players.