fringe Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Federal grand jury indicts Bonds / Associated Press Posted: 5 minutes ago Barry Bonds, baseball's home run king, was indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice Thursday and could face prison instead of the Hall of Fame for telling a federal grand jury he did not knowingly use performance-enhancing drugs. The indictment, culminating a four-year investigation into steroid use by elite athletes, charged Bonds with four counts of perjury and one of obstruction of justice. If convicted, he could be sentenced to a maximum of 30 years in prison. Shortly after the indictment was handed up, Bonds' personal trainer, Greg Anderson, was ordered released after spending most of the past year in prison for refusing to testify against his longtime friend. "During the criminal investigation, evidence was obtained including positive tests for the presence of anabolic steroids and other performance enhancing substances for Bonds and other athletes," the indictment said. In August, when the 43-year-old Bonds passed Hank Aaron to become baseball's career home run leader, he flatly rejected any suggestion that this milestone was stained by steroids. "This record is not tainted at all. At all. Period," Bonds said. Bonds finished the year with 762 homers, seven more than Aaron, and is currently a free agent. In 2001, he set the season record with 73 home runs. Late in the season, the San Francisco Giants told the seven-time National League MVP they didn't want him back next year. Bonds could not immediately be reached for comment. One of his attorneys, John Burris, didn't know of the indictment before being alerted by The Associated Press and said he would call Bonds to notify him. "I'm surprised," Burris said, "but there's been an effort to get Barry for a long time. I'm curious what evidence they have now they didn't have before." Bonds' defense attorney, Mike Rains, declined comment because he hadn't seen a copy of the indictment. "However, it goes without saying that we look forward to rebutting these unsupported charges in court," Rains said. "We will no doubt have more specific comments in the very near future once we have had the opportunity to actually see this indictment that took so long to generate." Bonds is scheduled to appear in U.S. District Court in San Francisco on Dec. 7. Bonds has never been identified by Major League Baseball as testing positive for steroids. The White House quickly weighed in on the indictment. "The president is very disappointed to hear this," Bush spokesman Tony Fratto said. "As this case is now in the criminal justice system, we will refrain from any further specific comments about it. But clearly this is a sad day for baseball." Bush, who once owned the Texas Rangers, called Bonds to congratulate him in August when the Giants' outfielder broke the home run mark. "You've always been a great hitter and you broke a great record," Bush said at the time. Former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, who is investigating drug use in baseball, declined comment. So did Hall of Fame vice president Jeff Idelson. Bonds was charged in the indictment with lying when he said he didn't knowingly take steroids given to him by Anderson. Bonds is also charged with lying that Anderson never injected him with steroids. "Greg wouldn't do that," Bonds testified in December 2003 when asked if Anderson ever gave him any drugs that needed to be injected. "He knows I'm against that stuff." Anderson's attorney, Mark Geragos, said the trainer didn't cooperate with the grand jury that indicted Bonds. "This indictment came out of left field," Geragos said. "Frankly I'm aghast. It looks like the government misled me and Greg as well, saying this case couldn't go forward without him." Prosecutors promised Bonds they wouldn't charge him with any drug-related counts if he testified truthfully. But according to the indictment, Bonds repeatedly denied taking any steroids or performance-enhancing drugs despite evidence to the contrary. For instance, investigators seized a so-called "doping calendar" labeled "BB" during a raid of Anderson's house. "He could know other BBs," Bonds replied when shown the calendar during his testimony. Asked directly if Anderson supplied him with steroids, Bonds answered: "Not that I know of." Bonds even denied taking steroids when he was shown documents revealing a positive steroids test for a player named Barry B. Bonds said at the end of the 2003 season, Anderson rubbed some cream on his arm that the trainer said would help him recover. Anderson also gave him something he called "flax seed oil," Bonds said. Bonds then testified that prior to the 2003 season, he never took anything supplied by Anderson - which the indictment alleges was a lie because the doping calendars seized from Anderson's house were dated 2001. Bonds became the highest-profile figure caught up in the government investigation, launched in 2002, with the raid of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative (BALCO) - the Burlingame-based supplements lab that was the center of a steroids distribution ring. Bonds has long been shadowed by allegations that he used performance-enhancing drugs. The son of former big league star Bobby Bonds, Barry broke into the majors with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1986 as a lithe, base-stealing outfielder. Speculation of his impending indictment had mounted for more than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Let the witch hunt begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 :rock: :clap: :rock: :clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxi-xxv Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Hate Bonds all you want, there is nothing good about any of this if you are a fan of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 i dont care about the steroids, but he should've had a better lawyer when he testified before the grand jury. i doubt he sees a cell, but he could lose it all after the IRS is through with him, we might be looking at the next pete rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Hate Bonds all you want, there is nothing good about any of this if you are a fan of the game. Exactly! And that ass clown Steve Phillips was on espn saying how good for the game this was. How exactly is criminalizing the games biggest star good? At best it might make current stars less likely to roid up, but it won't have any effect on younger borderline guys who have nothing to lose. Not to mention all credibility mlb will lose if the home run king is convicted of "cheating". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 16, 2007 Author Share Posted November 16, 2007 that's one less statue we have to build outside ATT Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Hate Bonds all you want, there is nothing good about any of this if you are a fan of the game. Amen! Besides, from what I understand, there are a lot of fan favorites from the late 90's that took it and have yet to be mentioned. I say let it drop and just give this whole era an asterisk in the baseball history books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Amen! Besides, from what I understand, there are a lot of fan favorites from the late 90's that took it and have yet to be mentioned. I say let it drop and just give this whole era an asterisk in the baseball history books. Goes back a lot further than the 90's Ditto, no way Steroids were so prevelant in football in the 70's and baseball not have a problem itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Hate Bonds all you want, there is nothing good about any of this if you are a fan of the game. I'm a purist and want to know who is the best, pure baseball player. Sue me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 I'm a purist and want to know who is the best, pure baseball player. Sue me. God i hate that argument. Is it pure when a pitcher can't lift his arm before a game but gets a cortizone shot in his elbow then pitches 7 shut out innings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 God i hate that argument. Is it pure when a pitcher can't lift his arm before a game but gets a cortizone shot in his elbow then pitches 7 shut out innings? The players they are being compared to did it on booze and hot dogs. Maybe today's athlete needs to toughen up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 The players they are being compared to did it on booze and hot dogs. Maybe today's athlete needs to toughen up. OK, how do you know? Amphetamines have been used forever in baseball, and steroids very possibly go nack to the 70's and maybe 60's. Cocaine has been used forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence the Blue Puppet Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 OK, how do you know? Amphetamines have been used forever in baseball, and steroids very possibly go nack to the 70's and maybe 60's. Cocaine has been used forever. You going to tell me Babe Ruth was on steroids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 You going to tell me Babe Ruth was on steroids? No, not Babe Ruth, but others in the era's following that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphScott Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 You going to tell me Babe Ruth was on steroids? Babe Ruth's records are bullshit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 You going to tell me Babe Ruth was on steroids? no, but hank aaron may have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 no, but hank aaron may have been. I kinda doubt that. However, I do remember them pitching to his power a lot over there in the NL He went from something like 40 hrs with the Braves to about 12 with the Brewers in one yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 I kinda doubt that. However, I do remember them pitching to his power a lot over there in the NL He went from something like 40 hrs with the Braves to about 12 with the Brewers in one yr. well, he was also over 40 yrs old. fulton county was a launching pad. but still, it's a very unique year (1973) when 3 hitters on the same team go over 40 home runs in one year. more unique one of them was davey johnson, who had never come close to those numbers before. some say that team was the birthplace of steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 well, he was also over 40 yrs old. fulton county was a launching pad. but still, it's a very unique year (1973) when 3 hitters on the same team go over 40 home runs in one year. more unique one of them was davey johnson, who had never come close to those numbers before. some say that team was the birthplace of steroids. It's a possibility with the O's. I can't say. I don't remember Hank bulking up, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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