Plow Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 looks like 5 years 20 mil, some sites are saying 4 yrs 20 mil. Either way, I'd rather take that than Gil Meche or Ted Lilly. I cant wait for Igawa vs Matsuzaka, and Matsui hits a home run off dice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 looks like 5 years 20 mil, some sites are saying 4 yrs 20 mil. Either way, I'd rather take that than Gil Meche or Ted Lilly. I cant wait for Igawa vs Matsuzaka, and Matsui hits a home run off dice! Yeah, a solo shot while the Matsuzaka allows one run in 7 innings with 6 Ks and Igawa gives up 5 in 5 1/3 innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 IMO there both ganna be flops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 IMO there both ganna be flops Good thing it's just your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Good thing it's just your opinion. they use smaller balls in Japan which equals more movement and speed. no Japaneses pitcher really does good with the exception of a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 they use smaller balls in Japan which equals more movement and speed. no Japaneses pitcher really does good with the exception of a few. True, but Japanese pitchers are also a lot better at striking batters out and keeping them off base. The major difference is going to be in HR rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plow Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Hideo Nomo, 2 good years then a diszpearing act that could make Criss Angel cringe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Hideo Nomo, 2 good years then a diszpearing act that could make Criss Angel cringe? I see that more for Igawa than for Matsuzaka, just from the perspective of scouts. We'll both knock on wood for our own pitchers I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Giant Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Like Kay said, Jap pitchers for the most part don't excel here. If Mat can get his screwball going here he'l be great, if not he'llbe another Irabu. His one out will nbe if he can get a change up like Santana or a curve like Nolan. I dunno who the Sox' pitching coach is, but I have a feeling that Mat will need to learn alot about American offspeed. Iguana, he has bust written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxi-xxv Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 looks like 5 years 20 mil, some sites are saying 4 yrs 20 mil. Either way, I'd rather take that than Gil Meche or Ted Lilly. I cant wait for Igawa vs Matsuzaka, and Matsui hits a home run off dice! When you factor in the 26 mil that was posted to sign him it becomes 46 mil(like Matsusaka is 103 mil). Something tells me that Plow would say something like this if the Yanks got Lilly "I would rather have Ted Lilly, he is proven in the majoe leagues and Igawa has proven nothing, for the same money". Just a hunch as all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Like Kay said, Jap pitchers for the most part don't excel here. If Mat can get his screwball going here he'l be great, if not he'llbe another Irabu. His one out will nbe if he can get a change up like Santana or a curve like Nolan. I dunno who the Sox' pitching coach is, but I have a feeling that Mat will need to learn alot about American offspeed. Iguana, he has bust written all over him. Matsuzaka has four plus pitches so while the screwball will complement the rest, he doesn't necessarilly need it, at least not in the beginning, to dominate. I still have every ounce of confidence in the guy...scouts are gushing over him and you can usually trust them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeef2 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Something tells me that Plow would say something like this if the Yanks got Lilly "I would rather have Ted Lilly, he is proven in the majoe leagues and Igawa has proven nothing, for the same money". Just a hunch as all :lol: So you've met Plow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringe Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hideo Nomo, 2 good years then a diszpearing act that could make Criss Angel cringe? a no hitter in colorado pre humidor. has to be one of the single most amazing feats in modern baseball he was much better than an average pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3VIN Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 a no hitter in colorado pre humidor. has to be one of the single most amazing feats in modern baseball he was much better than an average pitcher. he still olny had two good years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plow Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 When you factor in the 26 mil that was posted to sign him it becomes 46 mil(like Matsusaka is 103 mil). Something tells me that Plow would say something like this if the Yanks got Lilly "I would rather have Ted Lilly, he is proven in the majoe leagues and Igawa has proven nothing, for the same money". Just a hunch as all the 26 mil doesn't have a 40% luxury tax on it. Thats why it's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorfTVP Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 the 26 mil doesn't have a 40% luxury tax on it. Thats why it's better. That's true, but if you trade Randy, either Zito or Clemens will undoubtedly demand more money than 17 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plow Posted December 27, 2006 Author Share Posted December 27, 2006 That's true, but if you trade Randy, either Zito or Clemens will undoubtedly demand more money than 17 million. i dont care what the yankees pay zito or clemens. I did care what they would pay lilly or meche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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