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and i'm sure he'll take the same excuse all the latin players did... they didnt know "it" was a steroid cause they couldn't read the english on the bottle

i'm a borderline nba fan, let alone knicks fan. i follow the knicks but these few yeras have been unbearable. i'll stick to college basketball until they interest me a l ittle more, the teamd oesnt even give a shit

i'm down

looking at eli's cap number for next year, i'd see a restructure as well. thats crazy for him

can anyone say "eli restructures next year"? 12 million cap hit? damn

cedric jones was still aroudn then?

i thoguht kenny holmes was injured for the super bowl

this has not been a bad offseason at all. we locked up half our team for the next 6years. on top of that, he hasnt overpaid for free agents like everyone is doing. his worst offseason by far was the season we picked up kenny holmes, thinking he was the bookend for strahan that he was for kearse

as much as i would hate this and i dont see it happening, i could see keyshawn signing here especially since he now knows he got thrown out for t.o.

not really sure what i want, i'm a big yankee fan, giant fan, uconn and gw basketball fan... talk amongst yourselves

dont' forget that their coach is parcells. i've never been sold on andy reid. he makes a lot of questionable decisions at times, and i have a feeling his coordinators are the reason for a lot of their success. sucks that they actually replaced their o-coordinator with another good one. i was hoping they'd take a step back on offense. then again, the guy they signed this week (was it gaffney) doesnt exactly scare me as their new #1

30 under the cap? how the hell would that happen? i know we just resigned a lot of players to backloaded contracts i'm sure, but 30 million? we'd have to release luke, peterson, toomer, plus any other dead weight. it's real hard to get 30 million under the cap, especially with contracts increasing as they are

detroit never had a consistent running game. kevin jones is good, but he just hasn't gotten it all together. arizona how has edge. i think they even have better receivers. charles rogers screwed himself, mike williams did nothing last year and roy williams can't stay healthy. then you've got fitzy and anquan in arizona with edge. give them a tight end and they'll be beast.

i have heard that we have been trying to restructure contracts. toomer is more than willing from what i've heard, he wants to retire a giant, so he's willing to do it. i wonder why they haven't asked will peterson, especially with his injury situation. i dont see how tiki or strahan would restructure again, but its always possible.

jason witten, owens, terry glenn, julius jones, drew bledsoe.... if they get their o-line straightened out, this is going to be a very dangerous offense

no way he'll handle the media here in new york

what about the rumors that arrington was visiting the seahawks?

i think thats the point... redick wont go till around the 20s i think. no true position. i'm a borderline knicks fan right now the way they've been playing, and drafting redick would make me hate the nba even more

i heard a 3 year deal, nothing more was given

just reported on espn

rasheed and rip both got ejected... i think that might be a reason

seahawks are going after peterson right now. we have shown no interest whatsoever

at their spot i dont see who else they would take. they need d-line and secondary. they have a qb, they have rbs, they have decent recceivers and now d-line. this isnt an extremely strong cb draft, i see them taking d-line. bunkley would work for them

In reviewing any draft, the standard waiting period for making a fair and thorough analysis has historically been three seasons. But in the case of the 2002 lottery, even adding an extra year to the normal review period can't camouflage the reality of how abnormally bad that draft looks when evaluated by any measure. The substandard quality of the '02 draft was further demonstrated this week when the Detroit Lions signed free-agent quarterbacks Jon Kitna and Josh McCown, two moves that have set the stage for the imminent departure of Joey Harrington, either via trade or attrition. The player selected third overall in the '02 draft, Harrington will join former Buffalo Bills offensive tackle Mike Williams, who was chosen one spot later, as top-five picks from four years ago who went bust with their original franchises. "There sure were some expensive [mistakes] in that draft," agreed the personnel director from one team whose 2002 first-round selection remains with the club, but has rarely played up to his potential. "A lot of teams threw good money at bad [suspect] players." That's for sure. Harrington and Williams earned nearly $40 million between them in their four seasons with the Lions and the Bills, respectively, and never made it to a Pro Bowl. After four seasons, they should be cornerstones for the teams that chose them, but will be regrettably recalled as millstones instead. Their failures, though, are indicative of a first round that, in retrospect, was anything but memorable. And of a draft that generally produced spotty results. Scouts are quick to remind people (especially after bad drafts) that the process is an inexact science. But the 2002 draft was more like a laboratory experiment gone awry, one that blew up in a lot of teams' faces. And the first round, as the recent demises of Harrington and Williams reflect, was particularly dubious. Of the 32 players chosen in the first round in 2002, only eight have been to the Pro Bowl, and just four have made the trip to Hawaii more than once. By the time Harrington and Washington quarterback Patrick Ramsey are either traded or released, eight of the 2002 first-rounders will have bombed with their initial franchises. Counting defensive tackle Wendell Bryant, chosen by Arizona and currently out of the game because of a repeat violation of the NFL substance abuse policy, three of the top dozen players can be deemed busts for now. Four other first-round picks -- cornerback Phillip Buchanon (Oakland), linebackers Robert Thomas (St. Louis) and Napoleon Harris (Oakland), and offensive tackle Marc Colombo (Chicago) -- are now with teams other than the ones that drafted them. Of that group, only Colombo, who suffered a catastrophic leg injury as a rookie that nearly ended his career and required almost two full years of rigorous rehabilitation, can claim mitigating circumstances. The rest simply weren't very good, or, more benignly, perhaps, did not live up to their lofty expectations. AP Joey Harrington, like many 2002 first-round picks, has failed to live up to expectations. Unfortunately, that has been the case for too many of the players taken in the first round in 2002. "There just seemed to be a lot of uncertainty in that draft," said Jack Bushofsky, a retired personnel director who ran the Carolina draft in 2002, when the Panthers chose defensive end Julius Peppers in the second slot overall. "I mean, it seemed like everyone had the [best] players identified, but there wasn't a consensus as to how they'd come off the board. And there were rumors about [internal] disagreements at some places." Indeed, the exit of Harrington is certain to dredge up old stories about how the Detroit football brain trust was split between taking the quarterback or cornerback Quentin Jammer. In hindsight, the Lions, it seems, would have been better off making the defensive pick. But not much better off. Despite being billed as one of the top cornerback prospects in years, Jammer, who went to San Diego with the fifth overall selection, has been pretty ordinary. In four seasons, Jammer has just six interceptions, and there are some personnel people who still contend the Chargers should move him to safety. Certainly it would be unfair to denigrate the entire first round in 2002, because the opening stanza of that draft did produce some excellent players, with Indianapolis defensive end and three-time Pro Bowl player Dwight Freeney arguably the best of them. New York Giants tight end Jeremy Shockey and Dallas safety Roy Williams, like Freeney, have been to three Pro Bowls, and Peppers has played in two. Baltimore safety Ed Reed won Defensive Player of the Year honors only two years ago. John Henderson of Jacksonville and Tennessee's Albert Haynesworth are standout defensive tackles. Cincinnati's Levi Jones, for whom the Bengals were ridiculed when they chose him in the No. 10 slot, has become a top pass protector, and fellow left tackle Bryant McKinnie of Minnesota should someday join him in that group. When healthy, Pittsburgh guard Kendall Simmons is a powerful in-line blocker. Lito Sheppard of Philadelphia is a solid cornerback with one Pro Bowl on his résumé. And New Orleans defensive end Charles Grant, when motivated, is one tough defender. Houston quarterback David Carr, the first overall choice in 2002, still might develop into a franchise-type player. But no one will know unless the Texans surround him with an offensive line that can allow him to stay perpendicular once in a while, and upgrade the skill position players around him. Surveying the first round as a whole, however, some clever trading card manufacturer could issue an entire series based on players from 2002 who have so far come up short. Call it "Topps Flopps '02" or something. "Sometimes you have to be in the right place, at the right time, in the right situation," said Williams, who hopes he has found all three of those elements in Jacksonville, where he signed a two-year contract just days after the Bills released him. True enough. But too many first-round choices in 2002 have turned out wrong. Defensive tackle Ryan Sims (Kansas City) has missed 21 games in four seasons, first to a holdout as a rookie, then to injuries. Wide receivers Ashley Lelie (Denver) and Donte' Stallworth (New Orleans) have battled injuries and inconsistency. Green Bay wide receiver Javon Walker posted a huge season in 2004, tried to renegotiate his contract, then blew out his knee and missed all of 2005. He's still trying to get the Packers to either upgrade his contract or release him. Cleveland tailback Will Green went through a series of off-field woes. The problems for Atlanta tailback T.J. Duckett have been on the field, where he has been overshadowed by Warrick Dunn and not productive enough with the carries he's gotten. Tight end Jerramy Stevens (Seattle) has fought through alcohol problems and too many dropped passes. Four years into Mike Rumph's career, the 49ers still can't figure out whether he is a cornerback or a safety. "You never want to paint a first round or a draft with the same broad brush," one AFC college scout said in assessing the suspect class of 2002. "But you look at that draft four years later and kind of cringe now at the results of the thing. The Harrington thing really brought that home this week. And the point will be made again when [the Redskins] get around to dumping Ramsey." But it wasn't only the first round of the 2002 draft that, in retrospect, has some teams longing for a do-over. Of the 135 prospects selected in the first four rounds that year, players who should have a pretty reasonable expectation of enjoying prosperous careers, 33 are out of the league altogether right now and another 45 are playing for teams other than the ones that drafted them. The second figure is a bit skewed, since it includes players who departed in free agency. Still, good teams tend to keep good players around. So that's a 57.8 percent failure rate over four years. Buffalo is left with just two of the 10 players it chose that season. Oakland has only two of the eight that it took that year. Of eight players selected by Tampa Bay, just safety Jermaine Phillips remains. At the other end of the spectrum, the Philadelphia Eagles' first four choices were defensive backs Sheppard, Michael Lewis and Sheldon Brown and tailback Brian Westbrook. All are key starters. Such success stories from the 2002 draft, however, are scarce. And this week provided another painful reminder of that.

Six weeks ago, it looked like Florida State would have two elite selections in April's NFL draft. Now, the Seminoles could boast their best class since 1997 when Peter Boulware, Walter Jones, Warrick Dunn and Reinard Wilson went in the first 14 picks. After Thursday's pro day elevated the stock of cornerback Antonio Cromartie, FSU could be looking at another quartet of first-round picks – Cromartie, linebacker Ernie Sims, defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley and hybrid defensive end/linebacker Kamerion Wimbley. Such a promising batch stimulated a massive turnout, with every team in the NFL being represented by over 100 scouts, coaches and personnel men. Five head coaches made appearances, including the New York Giants' Tom Coughlin, Scott Linehan of the St. Louis Rams, Lovie Smith of the Chicago Bears, Sean Payton of the New Orleans Saints and Romeo Crennel of the Cleveland Browns, who also sent general manager Phil Savage. According to one personnel source on hand for the workouts, the Browns' full-blown representation was no accident. "They (want) Bunkley," he said, referring to Cleveland's 12th overall pick. "If he's still on the board, he's their end (in the 3-4 scheme). If he's still on the board. I wouldn't be all that shocked if he came off earlier." ADVERTISEMENT Yes No Yes No Yes No The personnel source also said the Browns have strong interest in Wimbley, who apparently would be converted to outside linebacker from his college position of defensive end. That likely won't come to fruition unless Wimbley unexpectedly slips to the second round – a scenario that doesn't seem plausible after he turned in another good showing. The personnel source's other observations from Thursday: Cromartie – who came out early and likely would have been a top-10 pick in next year's draft with a healthy 2006 season – gained the most out of any player. He put up very good times in the 40-yard dash (4.40 seconds) and agility drills, and effectively placed himself in "the top four" cornerbacks in the draft. Cromartie also displayed his ability to field punts. The workout apparently helped to further dispel fears about a knee injury that robbed him of his junior season in 2005. He now could be selected as high as middle to late in the first round. Sims shined in drills designed to test his ability in pass coverage, and he ran another 4.50 40-yard dash, despite weighing in three pounds heavier (234) than at the combine. He could go as high as the middle of the first round. Bunkley stood on all of his numbers from the combine, but did go through cone and shuttle drills, posting the fastest times of any defensive tackle in this year's draft. Apparently, Bunkley's agility times were so good, they would have stacked up with this year's top defensive ends, too – despite Bunkley weighing 30 to 40 pounds more than many of those players. Wimbley also stood on his numbers from the combine, but showcased his flexibility by doing drills at both defensive end and linebacker. He showed the ability to change direction in pass coverage and was said to have a great deal of raw potential as a possible outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme.