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The Eric Moore "experiment" at linebacker has officially ended. He's been moved back to DE permanently. As for those of you who think playing DE has anything to do with bicep size, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. All the strength required to do anything as a pass rusher comes from the lower body. This was why Strahan was able to shed so much upper body mass without losing a step. It's all in the base. For those of you who are concerned about the size of his biceps, he's now a professional football player and can spend as much time as he wants getting them big for when he's on TV. They'll be looking good for you by the time the season starts.

i think the only thing sadder than a fab 4 member is a wanna be.

I'm not, which why I said that we'll have to wait until camp. But I don't think Seargent Coughlin is one to out of his way to praise a players condition if he doesn't mean it. For example, if Seawright were not in good shape having his head coach describe him as being in phenomenal shape would not help motivate him to work harder. TC doesnt strike me as the type of coach who will say things just to placate the fans if it's completely untrue and would actually be detrimental to the team. Obviously we won't know until we see these guys in action. But to answer the queston about who to expect playing for us when the season comes around, Ill have to go with the players that the coach is praising for their hard work heading into camp.

In a recent interview, TC noted that Jonas Seawright is 340 and in great shape. He also sounded very excited about Duckett's ability and fitness heading into this season. I deduced from the interview that those two would be getting almost all of the playing time next to Willie Joe. If it's the case that Seawright and Duckett are in as great shape as TC made it sound, I think we will be fine this season. He describe Jonas as "going to be unblockable." I don't think we'll really know until we see these guys in camp, though. But overall, I'm not too concerned. They just need to occupy blockers so that the playmakers surrounding them can make plays. Cofield is a question mark at this point. If he performs well in camp and practice he might get some time in the rotation. I dont expect anything from Robbins. Last I heard, he was in terrible shape.

Kiwi is the same size as Strahan and a little bigger than Tuck so going by your logic, neither of those guys should be on the field either.

When TC talked about our pass rush last week he failed to mention Tuck as well. Im beginning to think that he's kinda the odd man out. I agree with them that Kiwi is the better prospect but I thought that they wanted to keep Tuck in the mix as well. Im curiious to see how this thing shakes out during camp.

Here are some things he said: - This is definitely his last year. - Said that they were going to make a point of getting Osi, Strah, Kiwi and Lavar on the field for passing plays. Didnt say anything about Tuck. - When we traded from 25 to 32 there were 5 guys still on our board. Kiwi was #1. Moss was one of the others. - Moss had surgery on his finger right before the senior bowl. They were impressed with his ability to play through it. - Wikerson will play the WILL for us, but can play every LB postion. He seems to be their favorite draft pick. - Jai Lewis is projected to be either TE or DT. Practice squad this year. - Really happy with Anthony Mix. - Talks about the strength of the NFC east. No easy teams.

Can everyone please just ignore them? Just dont read any of their posts and it will be as if they dont post at all.

I don't think the first 2 picks could have been any better. These two players will go a long way in laying the foundation for the team. Clemens was also a great pick. A++ on 1st 3. Not a fan of Schlegel, I thought this was the only bad pick in the draft. I like e. smith a lot but thought it might be a reach. good pick though as long as he stays healthy. Titus Adams was a solid pickup in the 7th. I thought he was 4-5 round talent at worst. overall, phenomenal draft. the jets are still a few years away but this is a good starting point.

Yeah. That was one of the craziest football games i've ever seen.

Also that sure was the peak for your QB. Too bad he never realized his potential in the NFL, he coulda been great.

I forget his name but I remember the bama kicker being famous for that game. Really solidified his place in football history.

I think people forget that these athletes are human and actually do tire over the course of a game.

Did we reach? No. Did we get the player we wanted? Yes! That's all you can ask.

But the irony is that when most of these guys become busts we won't hear a peep.

One thing that I'd forgotten about Jacobs was that he has been diagnosed with a learning disorder and is said to have difficulty learning the playbook. I wonder if this contributed to his playing only in certain situations. If this is the case, he's now had year of practice and should be ready to go this year.

The other way works nicely too. Bring Jacobs into the game in the 4th if we have a lead and let him pound the ball against a tired defense. This is what the Steelers like to do with Bettis last year and were almost impossible to beat when they had a lead.

When asked on Sirius where he would work out his response was, "Wherever the coaches want me."

Also, for those of you who are saying that Kiwi is too skinny or not big enough, etc... Mike Strahan: 6-5 260 Mathias Kiwanuka: 6-6 265 Justin Tuck: 6-5 268 I think he'll fit right in.

1. I think it's more likely that Strahan leaves in 1-2 years than 3-4. If we win the SB, hes going to retire. That could happen this year or next. And even if it doesnt, I still think it's likely. 2. John McCargo would have been a terrible pick at 25. Obviously he's a football player (I think everyone except Jai Lewis and the other UConn bballer in this draft are as well, nobody's arguing that) but we would have been drafting him because he was the best (not even sure about that) DT on the board and not the best player. That's what we mean by you draft players not positions. I doubt Mccargo would have even contributed this year much more than someone like Cofield will. He would have been drafted for the future years not this one. Just because the Bills (the team that everyone skewers about blowing the draft every year was the one that "reached" for him by all consensus), drafted him in the 1st doesnt mean he's a great player. 3. The chances of any DT's being a bust at 25 seemed quite high. I think almost everyone would agree that there just wasnt a DT worthy of the 25th pick. 4. It sounds like TC is impressed with Duckett and Seawright and thinks we will be too. If that's the case, then as I said before a drafted DT wouldnt even start for us so it would have been a waste of a pick if you're only trying to draft by position. I think the argument of drafting a DT in the 1st just doesnt work. Maybe you could make the case that we should have gotten one in the second but I think almost everyone would rather have Moss. So, as it turns out we did the best we could regarding a DT and I'm fine with our situation. All we need is to have a DT that occupies blockers and allows the gazillion playmakers on our defensee to make the plays. There are a ton of players that can fulfill that responsibility and that we will be sufficient at that position this season.

I'm sure you guys will love to hear this but that's not 100%. http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-giants050...eadlines-sports "If this is the last draft, and I'm not sure it is...." Personally, Id love to have him back for another year.

I know it's been a long time since we got to see Brandon Jacobs in a situation that wasnt third and short or goal line so for those of you who have forgotten what he did in the preseason last year, here is a refresher: http://youtube.com/watch?v=cUtgKCONhic&sea...randon%20jacobs So, is his role going to be the same as last year, limited only to the aforementioned situations? Or will we feature some sort of thunder and lightening attack? Maybe giving Jacobs a series here and there throughout the game... So what do you think the coaches will do with him this year?

i got this from bbi who got it from extremskins.... its about jimmy williams and explains why he was not on our board at all. doesnt sound like a TC guy at all. "I got this from a Cowboys board - posted by a 'reliable' Cowboys fan. Very funny and revealing if true. VT sure puts out the character guys. "I have a friend that works for the Redskins. He is not very high up in the organization, but he recounted a story that was circulating through Redskin Park about Jimmy Williams. The Redskins brought Jimmy in for a pre-draft interview. Apparently, those interviews last a few hours and they look at a little film with the player, allow him to speak with coaches, and tour the facility. Anyway, about 10 minutes into his interview with Gibbs and Greg Williams, Jimmy's cell phone rings. Instead of turing it off, Jimmy takes the call from a friend, gets up from the table and proceeds to talk loudly to his friend for a few minutes. After he hung up the phone, he began to text message someone. At that point, Greg Williams stood up and said that he would never allow Williams to play for him and Gibbs had Jimmy escorted out of the building." ----- explains why he dropped so far on draft day.

Thanks money. This was exactly what I was looking for. Many were wondering, what could possibly make Moss the higher ranked player ahead of Jackson since he had less production during his college career and he had a slightly slower 40 time, no need to mention that hes also giving up a few inches. Here are the two main reasons that I think that the Giants wanted Moss over Jackson: 1. Special teams - Moss is a dynamic returner and is likely to be our future return man. This is a big factor that can't be underestimated. This way the Giants can free up the spot used by Morton who is pretty much only a returner and that roster spot can be utilized more efficiently. 2. While Moss might be slower over 40 yards, he's the quicker player of the two. Rarely do players actually run 40 yards on a play and for what the Giants are looking for, the 10 or 20 yard dash might be more indicative. I expect the Giants to use Moss on quick screens and reverses. For these types of plays, Moss can legitimately be considered the better fit. Looking at these two reasons helps clarify how the Giants could have possibly had Moss rated higher than Jackson on their board.

Money, Pizan or Hound... whichever one of you had those extensive workout stats for each position, do you have the one for the wide receivers and if so, would you mind posting it? Thanks.