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i bet jerry dunked his dick in mara's coffee

Promise has sprung from the latest round of talks between the NFL and players, who resumed clandestine face-to-face negotiations Tuesday on Maryland's eastern shore, the third such set of talks they've staged this month.

According to sources, both the NFL and NFL Players Association are evaluating and strongly considering concessions on all fronts, and that has led to a belief that a deal could be done in two to four weeks. In a sign of the progress made, the legal teams on both sides have returned to the meetings, after sitting out the sessions in suburban Chicago and Long Island. N.Y. the past two weeks.

The talks are expected to continue into Wednesday.

A person with knowledge of the talks told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the two sides are headed in the right direction. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the meeting are not being made public.

Two other people familiar with the talks told The AP a framework for a new collective bargaining agreement could be in place before the owners' meetings next Tuesday in suburban Chicago. A memo went out to owners asking that they keep their schedules for next week flexible, in case the June 21 meeting spills into Tuesday night or even Wednesday.

Both sides entered the negotiations seeing a “window of opportunity” of roughly 30 days to resolve the labor situation. The owners are planning to meet once a month until the situation is resolved.

People familiar with the talks told The AP it would be premature to predict an imminent end to the lockout, but the atmosphere of negotiations has been more positive than it was previously, creating "a sense of movement."

Washington Redskins player representative Vonnie Holliday, appearing on NFL.com's "Cover Two Podcast" Tuesday, told hosts Steve Wyche and Bucky Brooks that he foresees an agreement that would allow for football to continue on schedule.

“All along we just needed to sit down together,” Whitworth said. “The problem we really had before was nobody could get around the attorneys and lawyers and all these kinds of things and just talk and figure this thing out. Finally we got a chance where you’ve got owners and players and (NFLPA Executive Director) DeMaurice Smith and all those guys sitting face-to-face and negotiating.

“That’s how you get a deal done. You don’t hire an attorney to get you a contract when you get drafted. You get an agent to negotiate. Once we got around the legal stuff, we started to make ground and I think we’re really close.”

The parties met for three days outside Chicago two weeks ago, in the days leading up to the June 3 injunction appeal hearing before the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, and again last week for two days on Long Island.

It's been 94 days since the NFL locked the players out, with this past Sunday marking three months. There are still 86 days until the 2011 NFL Kickoff on Thursday, Sept. 8 in Green Bay, but the league and players are working toward an agreement that would preserve training camps and the entire preseason.

The league estimates that the cancellation of the preseason could cost it as much as $1 billion. Whether that figure is accurate or not, both parties recognize that the major economic losses that would be incurred by this dispute dragging through the summer would make negotiations exponentially tougher.

Sources say internal deadlines to have some semblance of a "normal" preseason with the games preserved sit on or around July 15.

To this point, labor committee members Jerry Richardson (Carolina Panthers), Robert Kraft (New England Patriots), John Mara (New York Giants), Jerry Jones (Dallas Cowboys), Art Rooney (Pittsburgh Steelers), Clark Hunt (Kansas City Chiefs) and Dean Spanos (San Diego Chargers), active players Mike Vrabel (Kansas City Chiefs), Tony Richardson (New York Jets), Domonique Foxworth (Baltimore Ravens) and Jeff Saturday (Indianapolis Colts), NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith and NFLPA president Kevin Mawae have taken part in the "secret" meetings.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan, who ran court-ordered mediation between the NFL and players in Minneapolis in April and May, also has been involved but is serving in a different capacity at these summits.

nfl.com

no, it's not final. but it's a comin

I was actually referring to the dog/badegg thing.....lol

my mistake

So if it's not respect, your purpose is to antagonize? Thats fine and all, but why wonder about the lack of a warm welcome when you come to a Giants board with the handle cowboys when evidently being respected by the community isn't a concern of yours.

 

As far as the dog is concerned, perfectly nice, reasonable and helpful person outside the Giants section, inside, he's a bit of an ass. We'll see how this plays out, but it ain't looking good my friend.

so those are the only two reasons anyone would come here? searching for respect or searching to antagonize? haha

i'm here to entertain myself with football talk.

in case you haven't noticed, all of my smack talk is staying right here on the gint forum. if was looking to antagonize, it'd be much more fruitful to do it on the general side.

I can live with that same assessment. perhaps u think he's an ass cause the truth can be painful

maybe youre ignoring the fact others are being an ass to him as well, cause you know he's not a gint fan.

Dude, don't blame me because you don't know what a fluke means. It was most definitely not a fluke victory. Not emotions. Just truth. The better team that day won the football game. It shows in the stats and in the history books.

 

And don't act all wounded, I don't want you to go. Stay friend. Converse.

i think i've defined fluke in this thread somewhere. i'd have to be pretty stupid to not know what it means right?

so you're calling me stupid now?

we'll have to settle on this:

to gint nation, it wasn't a fluke play, and therefore, not a fluke victory.

to the rest of the universe, it was either dumb luck or divine intervention. you can have your choice.

no, i'm not acting wounded. i'm being sincere.

They are both good....but they are both lacking in the hips and ass department. It would be doggie style all the way for me. Would get a bone bruise otherwise.

i don't mind the hips, but both need a little more junk

OK. Cool. Still all a lil fishy though........

like someone mentioned earlier, im pretty familiar with the opinions on the 'boys boards, so it gets stale

i appreciate the differing opinions even if i don't agree with them

So, youre on giants.com and here.......hmmmm...... ever frequent, say a ......COWBOYS website???

yes, yes i do. a couple actually

is jeter gonna be back in time to get his 3k on my rangers?

well humor me a little. tell me the story on how you chose sportswrath over all those other giants forums available to you.

 

and how, dog, who is well known for being the maytag repairman type feels an instant kinship to a complete stranger.

i've been a long time member on giants.com, i've seen sportswrath talked about several times.

and i'm a member on several nfl forums.

it's not like this is hard work

my guess would be that the dog got the same treatment i got when i arrived. maybe he's empathetic

don't think about it too long or you won't be completely honest

Mrs. Romo's body of work

Mrs. Manning's (center)

i found manning in one bikini pic, but it wasn't a great pic as far as detail. she did look impressive tho.

I'm gonna take mannings' body and romo's face. how gay does that sound.

yeah i know, wrong forum

pats 07 defense wasn't as good as bear '06. not even close if i remember right.

i was wrong. bears were better but not by a helluva lot

for plaxi to even consider going back to ny, jets or gints, it leads me to believe he has not changed at all.

just a coincidence that Dog and eggboyz have become fast friends, folks. don't read anything into that.

mods, if your able

please help out your friend here and let him know if he be right or he be wrong.

it's becoming a little pathetic

why even argue about it. It is not like they will be playing this year

Well, if they dont play, what else can we do but talk about the past.

any football discussion beats none.

how would they know?

and to the moosehead, it doesn't matter if there's rival fans. there's a guy named dfng, eagles fan,

well loved. ccase is a saints fan- i love him anyway. . mikmak is a skins fan- well liked.

 

eggz just feels like reinventing himself, that's cool. don't know why he's masquerading though.

I have no idea. Ask the guy who made the claim.

u can believe im barrack for all i care

U would be wrong, but that seems to be the common theme

around here.

Giants outgained the Patriots 338-274. Some fluke victory, huh? The team that played the best football won the game.

Not sure how the yrds mean more than the final score.

But to be fair, elisha didnt have to face ur defense.

The Smith play was later in that drive and was just as nerve wracking. There was less time remaining and it was a 3rd and 11 compared to a 3rd and 5.

If u cant see the diff tween those 2 plays, ur being dishonest with urself.

One went as designed, the other a complete breakdown that ended with a miracle.

Not to mention one occured in the redzone and the other on the other side of the 50.

Theres no way in hell u had same reaction.

They had a good defense....but the last defense I'd want to face is a Belichick defense.

pats 07 defense wasn't as good as bear '06. not even close if i remember right.

I got no problem that you have an obvious problem with guys like BadEgg and HotDoggityDog.

 

I'm just saying I'm pretty sure that mods have said that Eggy and Italian Hotdog are not that same person.

 

Besides what's wrong with a rival fan coming to this forum? Atleast it's something new, after spending a few years now on this board I'm pretty much know what most people's opinions are on the team.

thanks

maybe the mods can tell him i'm not either one of those guys.

Because you don't know anything about that Super Bowl or that drive. We probably aren't talking about this right now if Steve Smith doesn't make that 3rd down. We'd be talking about how the Giants kept the game close against the Patriots.

so the 'double miracle' was just another 3rd down conversion to you?

u got ice water in your veins my friend.

at lot of things went your way to allow us to talk about this, not the least of which is the fluke play

Even if this guy is nothing more then a troll, atleast it's brought some much needed activity to this board.

that's what i'm saying. i'm not a troll, i'm a cowboys fan. i'm here to talk smack and football.

i thought it was supposed to be fun for all.

Where do you see God in that definition?

i'm not using your defintion, but the traditional definition.

an act of god basically. divine intervention.

What would happen if they had called the U.S victory over the Soviets the "Fluke on Ice". Get what I'm saying?

 

Like I said, you seem to know something about football. To come in here and call a Super Bowl victory a "fluke victory" or even a "fluke play" and then claim to not understand why it makes fans of the NYG (this is the New York Giants section and a predominately NYG board) angry is most definitely being what you claim not to be, trollish. The word "fluke" most definitely has a negative connotation. You won't hear any fans outside of the NFC East nor any football analysts or commentators etc. call it a fluke for that exact reason. You're much more likely to hear it called a miracle victory or even an underdog victory.

 

I, for one, liked our chances against the Patriots from the start. I won some money on that game, and not just because I'm a Giants fan. We had all the momentum and should have beat them in the regular season, anyway.

to me, calling it the miracle on ice is worse. again divine intervention vs plain old luck

i don't understand why anyone would get 'angry' by reading another human beings opinion.

I've said from the start, if you want me to leave, i'll go. this is all good natured rubbing to me. i can't help it that you guys can't control your emotions

when youre reading shit on the internet. that says more about you than me pal.

you're saying no one calls it a fluke play except division rivals? again, i must call de bs!