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Ralph V. says it is a "done deal" Tom Rock of Newsday says, "Curry now has a contract to go with this tee shirt"

Unless someone hacked his tweeter account, sounds to me like he is one of ours now. Hope he can live up to expectations and his knees hold out. Welcome aboard big fella!

Not only is Curry hanging around camp watching the rookies, he's sporting a NY Giants tee shirt according to tweeters on the beat. I think there are signs here folks that we are going to end up with Curry...especially if Curry wants to be a Giant as bad as he seems. Time will tell. Interesting situation.

With Dansby out of the picture having signed with the Cards, it sounds to me like a marriage might take place in our club! From Ralph V: "The Giants had 63 players on the field for their rookie minicamp, but one significant name was standing there watching. Free agent linebacker Aaron Curry, who visited the team Thursday, was still hanging around Friday, according to Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News. Giants coach Tom Coughlin admitted "there's interest" in adding the former No. 4 overall pick. "He was here last night. We brought him back in this morning and talked to him a little bit",Coughlin said. "We'll see where it goes". While he wasn't on the field with the draft picks and the rest of the guys scrambling for work, the fact he's still in town could be a sign his search for employment could be fruitful".

Hmmm...a 1-year deal for a reported 950k. Sounds like a steal to me. Wonder why the Giants passed on him.

Yeah...it will be a miracle of one of them sticks. At best, a couple of them stick for the practice squad. The UDFA's have a far better shot at making it than these guys and their chances are slim to middlin. But you never know. Maybe someone will stick out.

Some new ones have shown up after getting cut from other teams or just stayed under the radar. At least they brought in one CB. From Ralph Vacciano: South Carolina LB Reggie Bowens Arkansas P Dylan Breeding Tennessee-Martin QB Derek Carr Citadel P Cass Couey Calgary T Kirby Fabien SE Missouri State long-snapper Brandon Gabbard Kentucky Christian LB Isaiah Keyes Bethel QB Wilson Masoud Bethune-Cookman G Lavon McCoy Texas Tech T Terry McDaniel Florida International CB Junior Mertile Ferris State DE/LB Jordan Morgan Johnson C. Smith T/C Jordan Mosely Kentucky TE Morgan Newton Ball State G Kitt O’Brien Syracuse WR Marcus Sales Georgia Southern S John Stevenson UMass S Darren Thellen ab

Huh...did not know that. He was in Atlanta's rookie camp that ended last Sunday and he was considered a long shot according the Syracuse news. Must be they cut him and the Giants told him he could join in the tryouts this weekend. When playing for Syracuse he lined up at slot. Caught a lot of short passes. I wonder if Nassib convinced the coaches to give him a shot after getting dropped from the Falcons. I like the kid, but I don't see him making the team.

Sales??? Do you mean Marcus Sales from SU? If so, he's on the Falcon's list of UDFA's...unless they cut him yesterday and the Giants added him to their rookie tryout list.

I've been giving it a lot of thought after reading several thousand threads about the disaster that is due to not picking a handful of LB's in the draft. And I agree...would've been nice to pick up a stud if there was one available to us...and yeah, Greene would've been a nice pickup even though he's a WILL and is super fast, but not very physical and most analysts think he should switch to safety, but I digress. Anyway...the more I study, the more I worry about our CB situation than I do our LB. I feel confident with Prince...but that's where it ends for me. Webster seems to have lost the fire in the belly. Hosely is quick, but short and thin and can get pushed around by bigger receivers and isn't a great tackler...although, in all fairness, maybe he put weight and muscle on during the off season - but that doesn't help his height and it probably slows him down if he put on 15 - 20 new pounds. TT is coming off yet another torn ACL, Ross is a big ???? in my mind. The Giants picked up Pittsburg's throw away (Terrance Frederick) making me wonder why he was waived by the Steelers. Truman McBride might have the most promise having 5 years exp in the NFL on 4 different teams (Chicago, Arizona, New Orleans, and Jax). I don't know...it seems to me the CB position is where we are going to get burned a lot this year. We're kicking the tires on LB's and Kick Returners, but no CB's. And if you look at the kids in mini-camp this weekend, do you see any CB's on that list? Drafted Players: LT Justin Pugh Syracuse DT Jonathan Hankins Ohio State OG Damontre Moore Texas A&M QB Ryan Nassib Syracuse S Cooper Taylor Richmond U OG Eric Herman Ohio U RB Michael Cox UMass UDFA "SIGNINGS": TE Chase Clement LSU WR Marcus Davis Virginia Tech LB Charles Dieuseul Mount Union DB Charles James Charleston Southern LB Etienne Sabino Ohio State S Alonzo Tweedy Virginia Tech RB Jeremy Wright Louisville ROOKIE CAMP TRYOUT PLAYERS QB Wilson Masoud Bethel P Cass Couey Citadel G/C Kitt OBrien Ball State S Darren Thellen UMass long-snapper Brandon Gabbard SE Missouri St G Seve Rivers East Stroudsburg LT/C Jordan Mosley Johnson C. Smith U. DT Justin Blash Albany State OT Kirby Fabien University of Calgary QB Derek Carr Tenn.-Martin Hell, we've brought in 2 more QB's to try out along with a drafted QB. Where's a CB? Does anyone see one on that list or hear of one coming in for a tryout??? I think we seriously need to look at some options at CB or it's going to be a long season watching our opponents get 50 yd+ TD's.

I wouldn't mind picking up Curry if he wasn't a cap killer. He plays the SAM and would compete head to head with Rivers (and Kiwi if he ends up going back to the strong side). The MIKE is sewed up with Conner and Herzlich and the WILL is set with Williams and Paysinger (and Cooper Taylor can probably slide right into the spot as well). Also, I suspect that Sabino might make the team and he's a SAM. Sabino is an interesting prospect. His senior year at Ohio State was cut short by a broken fibula so his draft stock fell. Even so, NFL Scout had him rated as going in the 4th or 5th round (which -yeah, I know - means nothing in the long run), but he fell through the cracks and was signed by the Giants within minutes after the draft ended so the Giants must have targeted him and their scouts must have seen something they liked.

I used to love the guy once he got rid of the dropsies. But Tiki did everything wrong at the end of his career. You couldn't script a worse ending to a career where he could have been idolized. Bitching about Strahan and his contract. Whining about everything and especially his outspoken dislike of Eli and Coughlin. It left a sour taste in my mouth. I was still hoping he'd have a good career on TV, but no sooner did he get a job on the air, he left his wife in her 8th month of pregnancy (carrying his twin girls) for a 22 year old pinup girl that he married all of 8-days after the divorce...I lost all respect. Don't hate him...just think he's a fool for the way he handled his life when he had a chance to be idolized as a New York hero.

I wish him all the luck in the world.

Good point. However, if he can make millions as a return specialist, he should jump at the money. I know I would in a heart beat. And in the case of a lot of injuries, he might even end up playing some WR. Tyree was a gunner and ST specialist, but came in on occasion to play WR...for which he will be forever immortalized in SuperBowl history! I say...let's get him and let Jernigan and Cribbs fight it out for the last receiver on the team. If Cribbs doesn't cut it as a slot receiver, then keep him for returns only and the occasional fill in when injuries pile up.

He's probably out there for the same reason Dansby is still out there...wanting a long term multi-year contract. If he'd settle for a 1 or 2 year deal, he'd be signed already....especially at 29 yrs old. Free agents are having a helluva time finding a market for their above average skillset if they aren't willing to take a one year deal. Are you listening Victor??? Tell Jay-Z to stick to rappin and take Mara's money and get back to business.

The word on the street is that Dansby wants a multi-year contract...and I don't mean two years. Apparently, a whole lot of teams are interested in signing him on a 1-year deal, but nobody wants to go 4 or 5. Dansby would be nice, but remortgaging the farm to get him means cutting costs elsewhere. Personally, I like the low cost youngsters who want to make a name for themselves rather than signing a 31 year old to a long term contract that eats the cap like a kid eats an Oreo cookie.

Giants are kicking the tires on 3 time Pro-bowl free agent Josh Cribbs today. He's a kickoff/return specialist. Last year he burned the Giants in game 5 with 6 kickoff returns for 221 yards, including a 74 yarder. It would make a log jam at the receiver position as Cribbs also plays WR

Really! I can't get over the depth we have...especially if this Davis guy puts it together. I was reading an interesting message on NJ.com about Cruz and his contract negotiations. He said: "I hope the vets on the team are explaining to him (Cruz) how Steve Smith was so good he turned down $30M because he wanted more the following year on the open market. Now Smith makes chump change because he gets reinjured every year and hasn't had a real QB since leaving Eli. I trust that Cruz is too smart for that and a deal will get done". That guy is right on the money. Cruz needs to put the ink to the paper and get ready for the season.

If there is one area in which we are truly blessed, it's the WR position. So many options for Eli, and if Brandon Myers lives up to expectations, we will terrorize our opponents with our offense. Here's the list of current players vying for a spot on the team: From http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/pfdepthchart/NYG Left side Wide Receivers (88) Nicks, Hakeem (82) Randle, Rueben (89) Adams, Kris (6) Collins, Brandon (00) Davis, Marcus Right side Wide Receivers (80) Cruz, Victor (18) Murphy, Louis (12) Jernigan, Jerrel (15) Hardy, Kevin Last year we carried six receivers, so I suspect we'll carry six again Nicks, Cruz, and Randle are a given...so that means we keep three more. In my opinion, we'll keep Murphy, Jernigan, and Davis. Louis Murphy: "...general manager Jerry Reese saying Murphy can "take the top off your defense." Murphy is a four-year veteran with the Oakland Raiders and Carolina Panthers. The 6-foot-2, 203-pounder has 115 career receptions. He averages 14.8 yards per reception for his career and has at least three receptions of longer than 50 yards. He reportedly has sub-4.4 40-yard dash speed. Free-agent Domenik Hixon, a Giant for five seasons, has one reception of longer than 50 yards. Ramses Barden, also a free agent, has a career-long reception of 31 yards. "I think he's going to add another dimension to our offense," general manager Jerry Reese said in an interview on SiriusXM NFL Radio. "We have a scout named Jeremiah Davis and he talks about guys being a knife. This guy is a knife. This guy can take the top off your defense. He's an interesting guy. He gives us a different dimension in our offense. If we have the same guys, if we have (Hakeem) Nicks back healthy and we have (Victor) Cruz back, this guy gives you a deep threat that we haven't had. We haven't had a guy who can run like this guy." Murphy was a fourth-round pick (124th overall) by the Raiders in 2009. He spent three seasons in Oakland and played last season in Carolina, catching 25 passes. Marcus Davis: "Of all of the wide receiver prospects to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, Virginia Tech's Marcus Davis may be the most difficult to figure out. Davis was the most explosive player on a stagnant Hokies offense. He averaged a staggering 18.7 yards per catch on 51 catches, totaling 953 yards; just short of a school record. Davis is a prospect that oozes potential and carries plenty of traits that translate well into the NFL, but he has maddening flaws in the mental and technical aspects of the game that will cause him to be a late-round selection; the part of the draft where boom-or-bust prospects are meant to be taken. Athleticism Davis certainly looks the part of an NFL receiver, measuring 6'3" and 233 pounds. He has arms that would be long enough to play left tackle, measuring at 33 3/4". Coming off the bus, CBSSports.com's Shane Brugler likens Davis' athletic ability to that of Dez Bryant: If players were judged strictly on athletic ability, Davis might be No. 1...Davis looks the part with a tall, bulky frame and the explosive athleticism to create with the ball in his hands, flashing a skill set that is very similar to Dez Bryant. He ran an average 40 time of 4.56 seconds, but he flashes very good straight-line speed on tape. As a runner, Davis is a long strider who can outrun defensive backs without much difficulty. Davis' athleticism does not stop with his speed. He has tremendous balance that allows him to turn and get a ton of yards after the catch. He has tremendous body control mid-air, which, in combination with his long arms and catching radius, allows him to "pluck" jump balls and help make up for what was very average quarterback play for the Hokies in 2012. This 2011 play in the regular season finale against Virginia is perfect evidence of his ability to high-point the ball. First, he is able to beat press coverage with his hands and strength off the line. Davis is then able to stop his route, fight off a defensive back (who would be called for interference), time his jump correctly and use his strength to reel in the catch. His size allows him to simply overwhelm defensive backs, and he can be a load to bring down in the secondary. Where Does He Fall Short? If Davis is such a great prospect, then why is he not considered to be at the same level as some other top outside receivers like Keenan Allen and DeAndre Hopkins? How does a leading receiver on a top BCS program with such enticing physical traits fall so far on draft day? The biggest flaw in Davis' game is his concentration and attention to detail. He is blessed with incredible athleticism, but he only occasionally takes full advantage of it. Davis has flashed the ability to make spectacular catches in traffic, but when he does not have to, he does not regularly catch the ball with his hands away from his body. He has also gained a terrible reputation as a terrible blocker, to the point where Deadspin felt his lack of effort was worthy of a news story. @NFLDraftBible "Virginia Tech WR Marcus Davis runs 4.40 unofficial 40yd dash at 6'3, 233. Nugget from Mayock: Was benched this past season for not blocking". Davis has a huge frame, but he does not attack what are much smaller defenders like you would expect, often leading with his shoulder instead of using his long arms and big frame. Receivers are not drafted based on their ability to block, but the lack of effort in plays that he is not involved in is certainly a huge red flag. What Is He Worth? Davis has enough ability to have been among the top receivers in this draft, but his lapses in concentration and effort will lead to him being drafted anywhere between the mid-fourth to the sixth round. He will fit best as a perimeter receiver in the NFL. The reason why Davis would be so enticing to NFL teams is the fact that just about all of his weaknesses are very much fixable. You can teach a player how to block and break bad technical habits, but you can't teach the raw talent Davis has to work with. Whether or not Marcus Davis succeeds in the NFL will largely depend on the situation he is brought into. If he is given poor coaching and is trusted into the starting lineup right away with poor quarterback play, he will have a very difficult time adjusting to the professional game and becoming the best receiver he can be. However, if he can go to a veteran roster and develop on the bottom of the depth chart and learn from older vets, he has a chance to truly blossom into a star. Whoever winds up taking a flier on Davis is not going to get an immediate impact player, but they could end up with something special if they have the patience to work with him. If Davis is able to clean up his game and get the most out of his incredible physical tools, he will wind up being remembered as one of the biggest steals of the 2013 draft. So go ahead guys...pick this apart and set me straight. I'm having football withdrawal now that the draft is in the books and the chatter has slowed to a crawl...except discussing our need for a LB.

If one checks the Giants roster, one can't help but notice Michael Jasper on the list of offensive guards backing up Snee. The man has played both sides of the line, but is on the roster as RG for the Giants. He is friggin huge - he's a monster. Supposedly weighed 450 lbs when drafted by the Bills a few years ago. He's slimmed up and is now a trim 375. Maybe he'll be the next Refrigerator Perry! Put him next to Pancake man and perhaps we could actually make a hole for our RB's to go through!

There's a reason teams rarely repeat a Super Bowl season. Your best players want more money, you're squeezed because of the cap, you can't keep all the players you want to keep, and most of all...other teams are constantly rebuilding and build schemes to defeat the scheme that worked for you in the past. It's called "asset management" and it takes a near genius to manage assets in such a way as to stay on a winning path. New England has done very well with it...as has Pittsburg...and of course, the Giants. It takes a master head coach and general manager just to keep a team in the winning column and hopefully the playoffs, let alone repeat one of the best seasons the team ever had. The point here is...Spags surprised a lot of teams with his defensive scheme. But then everyone and their neighbor knew what to expect and adjusted for it. There is no guarantee that Spag's scheme would continue to fool every opponent year after year. I was reading an article on the strategy of the Cowboys and it shows just how important (and crippling) the salary cap can be if you don't constantly adjust. Sometimes, you just have to let your great players go because if you don't, you won't be able to compete in the future thanks to the cap. Check it out...very good article (IMO): http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/05/03/witten-wisdom-the-cap-related-secret-behind-cowboys-replacement-draft-picks/

Personally, I'd rather go with the kids with good legs. Nothing more frustrating than paying big bucks watching a player (who was great in college, but always hurt in the NFL) go on and off the injured reserve list. I'd rather keep Charles Dieuseul on the team at league minimum, who is much younger, faster, stronger, and has fresh legs with a mind eager to learn and dying to prove himself. Curry has "medical red flags" all over him and chronic knee problems. I hate watching players go back and forth on the injured reserve list - especially high paid players. Very, very frustrating.

Take up golf Naz. It's the one sport that will make you forget about football during the summer. It's a game that hooks you down deep and can devour all your thoughts about anything else. Once you hit that perfect drive 300 yds, you'll think you can do it again and when you discover how hard it is to do it again, you just can't give it up until you do it consistently.

Actually...his contract was 3.36 million guaranteed with a 1.608 million signing bonus (3.966 million). He had 24 career tackles so that works out to $165,250 per tackle. Pretty sweet gig. On the other hand, when you break it down for baseball players, it's insane. Like A-Rod has made $53,930 for every plate appearance he's made as a Yankee. As prolific a HR hitter he is, he nets $389,490 per homerun. What's worse is the multitude of pitchers who lose more games than they win and still net on average 7.5 million a year. There's pitchers that look like they are throwing batting practice that get 25 starts a year and pocket 300K per game. There's worse things than failing in professional sports...like not getting a contract in the first place that resembles winning the lottery.

I'd love to have his bad luck. Free college ride with no debt, get to tell people he played in the NFL, and starts out at 27 years old with about 3 million dollars and a degree in anthropology. In hind sight, he avoided numerous concussions and several years worth of additional NFL body hits and still has a full life ahead of him - real life, not the fantasy life he hoped for. Bad luck is being a soldier making 13,000 a year and getting your legs blown off, fighting in a war that makes no sense at all. Or finding out your wife is knocked up by her brother from Kentucky. Or being 95,000 dollars in debt for a degree that no one will hire you for and finding out the only job you can get is a part time job at McDonalds. Or cliff diving and misjudging how far out you have to leap to avoid a rock cropping 80 feet below. I understand where you're coming from. It's a dream job to be able to make millions playing a sport typically played by kids for free. Getting a free education and handed a few million to start off real life is pretty dang sweet though.