JayD

I am sure that every GM has stories similar to things like this in all sports. Just last month at the baseball waiver wire I read that Cashman almost accidentally claimed Frank Thomas when he has like 3 years and 38 mil left on his deal and Giambi was there as was Tino. Woke up the next morning to thankfully find out that the Sox pulled him back.

 

Shit like this happens all the time. With that said, we would have been in a lot better shape in 2003 had Parcells took over in 97 than Fassel thats for shitting sure.

 

My guess is this shit is being placed out there now, because even if COughlin has another playoff season, if its not a successful one he will be gone. He goes 9-7, 8-8 again and just gets in, those plans of last January will just be made 12 months later. Basically IMO the idea is being thrown out there now, letting Giants fans know, that anything less than a deep playoff run and things will change.

 

My friend ran into Parcells this past summer up at Saratoga. Said something like "hey Bill you done coaching? " and Bill said something cryptic like, "I am done coaching far away from this place". I truly believe he would love nothing else but to come back here on his high horse and win again with the Giants and beat Jerry Jones in the process, will it happen? Who knows.

Its crazy to think the loyalty and patence the Giants have shown to several coaches that were horrible. Fassel never got us to the playoffs twice in a row. But when It comes to Coughlin its all your fired if you dont get us deep into the playoffs? Even after he brought this injury riddled team there the last 2 years in a row. And we should have won against Philly.

When Coughlin has players that buy into his system and are willing to put the team before themselfs, there are not to many coaches that are better. Looks like he is slowly getting that team, and I for one want to see what comes from it over the next few years. The only coach I'd take over him at this point would be BB. Another than that Im more than fine with Coughlin sticking around for a long time. Its so sad how most NY fans have ZERO loyalty, or patence. Championships teams are not built over night.

Toxix Tom has never won a Super Bowl and never will. He, as a leader and Head Coach has all the abilities found in a turd of dog shit.

What ever dude. Coughlin brought a expantion team to the championship. Has had us in the playoffs 2 years in a row. Cower never won a superbowl either, till 20 YEARS LATER.

From what I heard ( from Coughlin) is that he's going to the doc because of back problems. I think he's very lazy. If it shows on the field, I hope they sit his ass.

There has been a fire in this kids eyes in the last 2 games. While on the field he looks very confident. To me though, if he only improves in the INT catagory, by say 3 or 4 less, then he will be doing great. Well over 3000, and 24 TD's, with say 12 INTs. I'd be more than fine with that

Whatever. Stay, go, I dont care anymore. It seems we have some pretty good cemistry right now. I just dont want him to f that up.

Belichek wins 2 superbowl a decade. Cower wins one every 20 years or so. Tit man is done. This shouldnt even be a discussion.

On the other hand, if Coughlin is gone, than that means we sucked this year. I dont think that is in line with reality.

I'll be surprised if the cowboys even give us a good game. I think we are going to just stomp the shit outta them.

Who gives a shit if he's beaten Phil's stats twice or twenty friggin times. Jay, here's the stats that count in football. Wins and losses, and points scored/against. nothing else. If you ask fans that have supported this team in the last 20-25 years and were asked who they could choose between Eli and Simms based on what Eli has done right now, most would pick Simms. Simms was a tough son of a bitch, and had a winning mentalty and played for Parcells when parcells was actually a coach and not a rent a coach. Guy had the biggest game of his career when they needed it the most. To say that if it wasn't for the defense, most would not know who Simms was, frankly pisses all over Simms career, you can't just make it better by then saying you have nothing but love for the guy in the next sentence.

 

And seriously Jay, as much as I think Eli has the tools to get to a higher level, there are other factors that have lead to the fact he hasn't gotten there. He actually has to improve quite a bit to get to be a very good QB. His accuracy has not been good, he doesn't go through his progressions fast enough and he's made some bad decisions at crucial times. These are all fixable, and if he does he can get a lot better very fast.

 

Nothing would make me happier if Eli stepped up and became the man, looked into the TV camera and said "happy now, Boohyah??". All I want is for this team to win.

Im aware that alot of fans would choose Sims over Manning so far. But thats only cause they are seriously misinformed. It took Sims 5 years to have his best year. Eli has beaten that twice already. There is just no denieing it. I in no way want to "piss" on Phill, Guy was a class act, and a warrior, but just go look at the stats, he was never a great QB, (accept in the superbowl game) and many years boarded on even beening good. The truth of the matter is we had one of the best defenses of all time during our superbowl runs, with a very effective power run game. If Eli had a top 5 defense (keep in mind, we went to the playoffs twice with one of the worst defenses in the league) we probably would have went to the superbowl last year. Why does Eli have to improve alot to be a good QB? Add 5% to his completions and he's over 60%, add 500 yards to his total for the year and he's over 4000. Add any more TD's and he still has scored more in a single season then any QB we have had since the 60's. Beating only HIMSELF. If you think Eli needs to dramaticly improve going into his 4th year, you would have been calling for Phil Sims head by his 4th year. And many were.

Im with you though, I to want nothing more than to win. It just pisses me off that people dont understand what a good QB we have. Im sure he will improve, and probably end up being the best QB we have ever had.

Egg, I think I can honestly say that including myself, the majority of Giant fans feel Eli can be a top QB. No-one can deny that there are times when Eli shows he has talent, but it's too sporadic obviously and he has to put it altogether. But all kidding aside, we think he can be the man. If he got to the level of Phil Simms for example, we'd be happy.

 

As for soap opera, no offense, but there wasn't a bigger soap opera in football last year than Romo. And honestly he's a decent QB, but nothing special and his pro bowl selection to me was ridiculous. I mean Egg, as I said before, if Bledsoe had to step up his game just a little for the rest of the season, then Romo never gets on the field. I just find it hard to understand all the hype all of a sudden behind a guy who took 4 years to get the job, and only got it cause they ran out of options.

If he got the level of Phil Sims???????????? Brother, Eli has already beaten Phils best regular season stats, twice. If we didnt have the defense we had back then, most wouldnt know who Phil Sims was. Dont get me wrong, I got nothing but love for Phil. But Im setting the bar much higher for Eli. He Doesnt need to improve all that much to be considered a VERY good QB in this league.

I loved and defended Tiki for MANY years. He was our foundation. Thats what makes this all the worse. To find that I've been supporting a arrogent jackass this whole time. A person who thinks nothing of throwing his team mates and coaches under the bus, then acts like a 5 year old when someone try's to defend themselfs aginst his negitive comments. Fuck TV Barber

Tiki was a great player and hero for the Giants

He now works for the media

Therefore his opinions DO NOT MATTER

There is no ''feud'' with Eli

None of this will affect the team

 

Go Giants 07

Do not matter to who? They sure as hell matter to me. He was supposed to be a class act. He was our John Elway, our Emit Smith. Now the man has reduced himself to the likes of Me Shawn, and TO types. In some ways worse. May God PLEASE see it fit to let the Giants take the whole thing this season. That will silence horse teeth, milk dud head forever.

If it isnt Eli's job to talk, why are there always 25 microphones in his face?

I can't condone banning him. Maybe taking him in a dark alley and beating the shit out of him.......

Well ok

Bad Egg=needs banning.

I'll sign up for that. Mods, why is this clown still allowed to post here? Didnt you ban the fag 4 for these same type of threads?

Seriously, I wish Coughlin cut his ungrateful ass as soon as he came here. Not many would even remember who he was by now. Let alone having to look at his Giant horse teeth, and glistening milk dud head on TV

Barber, our all time leading rusher and greatest Giants RB to date. I, for one, refuse to turn on him.

The man pisses all over the team I have loved since I was 10. He should jump off a bridge. Seriously. Fuck Tivi Barber.

I dont even care what Tivi has done on the field anymore. As far as Im concerned, he can jump off a cliff.

Perhaps Eli should worry about himself rather than what Tiki says. I can't remember a time that fans were so giddy that their QB actually defended himself publically against what amounts to nothing more than the observations and opinion of an ex-player. It's especially embarrasing if what Tiki said is true.

 

It's also sad that a starting QB, whom the franchise gave so much up for, HAS to defend himself in this manner against ANYONE in his FOURTH year in the league. Remember, Tiki isn't the only one questioning his leadership skills.

 

Perhaps Eli should stop talking to the press and just play better when the season starts. If he plays well and they win, nobody will question anything.

 

This recent exchange between Manning and Barber, along with the Strahan hold out, makes the Giants look like a joke. This is a bad soap opra, not a professional organization.

You keep saying his "FORTH year"? He is about to START his THIRD year as the starting QB. Translation, he has only played 2 full years as the starting QB. And in those 2 years has more TD's then any QB we have had in over 60 years. Dumb ass :brooding:

I give some credit to Eli on this. He was absolutely right to respond to this because Tiki did make him seem like a fool here. He deserved a right to respond.

 

However, he's wrong about "Tiki's heart". For the umpteenth time I say this, Tiki Barber may have announced his retirement during the season, but the fact that it was a distraction to the extent that it affected the team like they are saying is total bullshit. Tiki played his ass off, when he could have just as easily said fuck it. After the Skins game when the Giants needed the win to get into the playoffs, Tiki simply dragged them into it. Questioning his heart by anyone but Tiki, is simply ridiculous.

 

Now, before I'm told I'm on the Tiki bandwagon here, the only thing I can say about his performances on TV so far is that he is extremely unprepared to be on live TV. Yes, Tiki's lips are way too loose, but some of the things coming from his mouth seemed forced and panicked. I think NBC is showing him up and exposing him for his lack of experience. a couple of weeks ago, Tiki was on Leno, and I thought he was simply awful, like he was trying to hard to be an entertainer but he was still an athlete and being treated like one.

 

Anyway, with the way Tiki is going on in his next chapter, he looks more and more like the fool he's trying to paint some of his former mates. he's going to come out of this looking real bad.

I'll take it a step further and say Tivi is a complete fucking joke at this point. Most teams in the NFL would have cut his ass after serveral years of shitty play, and some MAJOR fummbling issues. He should be down on his damn knees thanking the Giants, and Tom Coughling, that anyone even knows his damn name. Instead he pisses on the Giants, there quarter back, the coach, every chance he gets. If I had a Barber Jersey I would be calling for a public bomb fire, and with a smile on my face I'd toss that rag on top of the pile and stike the match myself. Tivi is nothing but a peice of trash, and his brother can kiss my ass too.

I mean this all in the best way possible though.

Tiki who?

Sept. 9. Giants 35 Dallas 15

Physicians find a near lethal dose of thorazine in Dallas QB Tony Romo's blood supply when he is found slumped, semi-conscious, half-dressed, in his car, still in his driveway, five minutes before game time. Meanwhile, the Giants' offense blows a few new holes in the Texas Stadium roof.

Sept 16. Green Bay 10 Giants 41

An expert FBI hostage negotiator is rushed into the Packers' dressing room 15 minutes before game time, where Brett Favre is holding Tony Kornheiser at razor point in a toilet stall. Favre threatens to drown Kornheiser if he's made to go out there and face the Giants. Jeremy Shockey! catches his third TD pass of the season, a 99-yarder on which the Packers' defender can be heard tearfully begging, "Please don't let me catch you, Mr. Shockey."

Sept 23. Giants 47 Washington 14

Hours after this game in the nation's capital, as the Giants step off the train on their return to New York, fullback Brandon Jacobs finds Redskins' All-Pro safety Sean Taylor, squashed and stuck to his knee. "I thought I'd scrubbed him off after the game in the shower," Jacobs tells the New York Post's Steve Serby, "but I guess I missed a spot."

Sept. 30. Philadelphia 7 Giants 24

Eli Manning throws his seventh and eighth TD passes of the season, both to Plaxico Burress. Manning and Burress have become the most lethal QB-receiver tandem in the league. The Giants capitalize on several Eagles penalties, including a 15-yarder when officials discover Philadelphia coach Andy Reid's two sons running a flourishing black market gun and drug bazaar on the team's bench.

Oct 7. Jets 20 Giants 23 (OT)

Jets' coach Eric Mangini takes heat for giving the Giants' offense the ball at the beginning of overtime. Tapes of his sideline conversations reveal Mangini hysterically repeating, "All work and no play make Jack a dull boy," to his frantic coaches upstairs in the booth. Eli Manning's passer rating is ahead of Ben Roethlisberger's, Phil Rivers' and Rex Grossman's thus far. Big Blue is 5-0.

Oct. 15. Giants 37 Atlanta 10

As the teams line up for the opening snap, Antonio Pierce whispers across the line of scrimmage, "We're going to put you guys in a rape stand and do to you what Mike Vick did to his dogs," and the game is over quickly. The Giants' defense picks up its league-leading 18th sack of the year.

Oct. 21. San Francisco 21 Giants 48

Amani Toomer catches 13 passes. The defense sacks 49ers QB Alex Smith six times. Kiwanuka runs one fumble back for a touchdown and is on his way to a Pro Bowl season. At the start of the second half, Smith, desperate to avoid any more pounding, is found in a blond wig and silicon breast inserts impersonating a 49ers Gold Rush cheerleader.

Oct 28. Giants 42 Miami 10

Not until they are at 40,000 feet, midway across the Atlantic, are Dolphins players told they're not just visiting London on vacation, but actually have to play the Giants, and the plane erupts in panic. Coach Cam Cameron is severely injured, trampled by the Dolphins' starting defense, which rushes the cockpit in a vain effort to force the plane to turn around.

Bye Week.

Mike Strahan is arrested having sex with Brooke's Astor's moldering two month old corpse. But coach Coughlin is willing to overlook Strahan's flaunting of the NFL's good conduct clause "for the good of the team."

Nov. 11. Dallas 0 Giants 2

The first "forfeit" in the league's modern era. On Friday before the game, Texas Ranger search parties with bloodhounds and Geiger Counters locate the abandoned Cowboys team buses at Groom Lake, north of Las Vegas, otherwise known as Area 51 to UFO buffs. America's team has disappeared. The Bush administration and the Pentagon refuse to discuss the team's disappearance, claiming national security concerns about Area 51. But Giants' fans know why the 'Pokes went missing before visiting the Meadowlands.

Nov. 18. Giants 27 Detroit 13

Manning has his fourth 400-yard-game of the year. His QB rating is 111.3; Peyton's is 87. The Lions lure 75-year-old Hall of Fame linebacker Joe Schmidt out of a local shuffleboard tournament to play when no one else will suit up.

Nov. 25. Minnesota 6 Giants 31

Sinorice Moss scores two TDs on kick returns. Big Blue cruises to a 11-0 record getting ready for its game against the Bears, the team that beat them last November in the Meadowlands and sent the Giants into a slide from which they never recovered.

Dec. 2. Giants 24 Chicago 0

Too terrified to scramble in the pocket, Chicago QB Rex Grossman begins 'taking a knee' with 8eightminutes left in the first quarter. The Bears' LB Brian Urlacher meets Brandon Jacobs head-on at the goal line late in the first half, and post-game forensic testing of the spatter patterns in the end zone result in Urlacher's cause of death reading: "Tried to tackle one big motherfucker."

Dec. 9. Giants 38 Philadelphia 9

All week long the Eagles talk smack about ending the Giants' unbeaten streak. But the night before the game Donovan McNabb begins serial, uncontrollable projectile vomiting and is too weak to play. Shockey! snares his 14th TD pass of the year and would have a 15th, but he stops one yard short of the goal line to slug Brian Dawkins in the ball sack. Eli Manning is asked to host Saturday Night Live. He tells them to fuck off, he's got some football to play.

Dec. 16. Washington 17 Giants 58

The Redskins are late coming onto the field because after the pre-game so many were crowded around team chaplain Msgr. Liam O'Herlihy begging him to offer them Last Rites. Many of the Redskins appear wild-eyed and dazed, foaming at the mouth, a few on their backs flailing their legs crazily as the Giants kick off. Tom Coughlin does the Top 10 List on Letterman: Top Ten Reasons Why I Still Won't Laugh. The Giants are 14-0.

Dec. 23. Giants 41 Buffalo 0

On Thursday before the game, the Bills call in renowned psychologist Dr. Phil. At a nationally broadcast team meeting, Dr. Phil tells them that it's okay for a grown man to weep and sob. With Dr. Phil looking on, the Bills vote not to play the Giants. A national uproar ensues. Condoleeza Rice, a huge football fan, intervenes with Coach Coughlin - saying she thinks the game should be played. Behind the scenes, the Secretary of State pleads with Tom Coughlin and Eli Manning and Jeremy Shockey! and Plaxico Burress to take it easy on the Bills. They respond: "Fuck you, Condi."

Dec. 29. New England 10 Giants 50

The Giants complete a historic undefeated season. During the game, Pats QB Tom Brady is heard offering up various super models and actresses he knows for sexual favors if Giants defenders won't grind his ass into the dust on every play. The Giants' final TD is scored by Gibril Wilson, who blocks a field goal and carries the ball, with the placekicker's leg still attached to it and dragging behind him, 87 yards for a touchdown. Afterwards, a triumphant Tom Coughlin still won't smile, but tells me, "Hey, asshole, you picked the wrong Giants' season to write about in your stupid book."

1:35 PM ON MON AUG 20 2007

BY LEITCHhttp://deadspin.com/sports/nfl-season-preview/nfl-season-preview-new-york-giants-290987.php

I think his head looks like a milk dud

13 play 81 yard drive against the Giants starting defense...Desean Foster has sixty some yards on about five carries...this is not a "rip" or a "joke"...Dem the facts, Lubeck...

 

Alarming to say the least...

Oh no, we didnt do great in THE FIRST PRE SEASON GAME, the sky is falling. How long have you been watching football?

You classless Giants fans whooping it up after an injury... I hope the Midgets are 100% healthy when they march into Texas Stadium in September...

Come on who are you trying to kid?