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On the other side of this, Ive loved Danny Dimes response to this. He basically just said Bakers approach is not the approach hed have taken. Throwing shade without talking shit. Shurmurs response was great too.

Eli was great on this too.

“I thought he did great,” Manning said, via CBS Sports. “I told him what to say. He didn’t listen to me, though. He took the high road.”

LOL

He's making 18 million every year the next three years in cap alone, not including incentives.

 

18 million he's one of the highest paid lineman in the NFL.

 

If that doesn't bother you then I don't know what to say lol

 

He's making the same money OBJ is.

no he is making less and only about 35 of the 62 is guaranteed

Part of it is coach sending a message to the whole unit. Couple this with dumping Smith after is horrible outing in Dallas seems to have been the right move.

We are still very much a work in progress but a lot of positives yesterday.

 

I can see before week 8 Getty trading for a Oline stater

 

Man I want your optometrist!!!

This is just not going to happen which is why average players like Solder get paid so well when they are available.

The guys we have are just going to have to continue to work hard and learn to play together / in synch with more regularity.

Granted it is only pre - season but after 3 weeks who do you think has performed the worst:

Jonathan Stewart -- 10 carries / -5 yards / 1 fumble lost

Alec Ogletree -- Hell bent on continuing our recent trend of getting torched by TEs

Patrick Omameh -- Can't pronounce the last name but suspect it rhymes with "0 Lay" (sp? couldn't make the accent e )

thoughts??

Personally I liked Chubb more than Barkley at #2. Partly based on position. Apparently the Giants had the same pre-draft grade on both dudes.

I also liked James Daniels in the 2nd. I think he went 2 or 3 picks after us. Hernandez seems solid however.

We will see what happens but I would be surprised to see this team win more than 5 or 6 games this year.

The Bills now have both the 21st and the 22nd picks in the first round. There was some speculation that they would offer both + Cordy Glenn for the giants #2. I would think they might have to give a litte more to get it done.

Who knows, maybe the Browns will go Barkley at 1 and then offer the Giants the moon to move from 4 to 2. That could work out really well for us for a number of reasons.

Our offensive line was dreadful and we were 29th in sacks. If they do anything other than trade back for extra picks I will be upset.

You do realize that whether or not you read that article has nothing to do with Eli's consecutive game streak?

Tell it to Schrodinger

I am very worried that I am not worried enough!!

If the O-Line can just be average the Giants should win a lot of games this year. Still have to do it.

 

 

Tye and Lacosse are both having very good nights from what I've seen.

I think Lacosse has the edge over Tie based on blocking. What this probably comes down to is Lacosse or Smith. Doubt they will go 4 TE and a FB. We'll know soon enough

Goodson has definitely looked the part in the first 2 pre season games. the sack in the Browns game in particular was a thing of beauty.

I thought Flowers held his own against the Browns. The sack on Smith at the end of the half was on Smith IMHO. You can't hold the ball that long, especially in the 2 minute drill.

What concerned me the most during the Browns game was the inability of Pugh or Richburg to get any push at all in the run game. Those guys are supposed to be the strong point of the OL and they played like shit.

It is interesting to note that DRC has been taking practice reps and some pre-season snaps lined up as Free Safety. If they think they can get away with using him in that roll ( great ball hawking skills offset by less physicality and mediocre tackling ) they may be able to keep an extra CB with the knowledge that DRC can move over if they have an injury issue at Free safety

The purpose of the PSLs is to limit the number of individuals that have season tickets which is good for business even if it does suck for fans.

Take me for instance, I have a decent seat in the lower level, almost never miss a home game and other than tickets and parking bought 2 or 3 bottles of water all year. think I'm what they are looking for? Hell no. Far better to have a company own the seats and use the for entertaining clients or rewarding employees. Guy goes to 1 game every 3 or 4 years with his kid is going to drop hundreds on food and apparel and shit.

Voluntary means voluntary. I get that. But the optics of blowing off your teammates to hang w/ Manziel? Just horrible.

at some point we are going to need a 4th serviceable corner as well. Probably wind up w/ a salary cap victim / veteran on downside

Don't necessarily feel like we got better this wknd. Maybe we held serve which means it was a C+ draft at best.

JPP listed as questionable with shoulder injury

Vernon was limited in practice with a wrist injury

Guess we are going to find out about depth this week.

Reese has been an absolute disaster. He has under performed every other team in the league at the draft which, as I recall, was supposed to be his strength.

From ESPN

The players the Giants drafted since Jerry Reese became GM in 2007 combined to play a league-low 10,767 offensive and defensive snaps in the NFL this season. Other teams' picks over the same span averaged 16,448 snaps per team, or about 53 percent more snaps than the Giants' selections."

just horrible

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-giants/post/_/id/45849/a-stunning-stat-on-how-bad-the-giants-are-at-the-draft

ouch. thats worse then that old rick roll thing

Assuming Collins is cleared of any wrongdoing, his path to an NFL team will be interesting to watch.

After Thursday night’s first round, his agent told teams that Collins would not sign with any team that drafted him after the third round and would re-enter the draft in 2016. However, players who go undrafted in a given year cannot re-enter a future draft.

Collins would now have to sign as an undrafted free agent, which means he will only receive a league-minimum contract. As a result, his signing bonus will be relatively paltry.

Apparently the whole UFA deal is now capped.

Here's Nick Saban

In the offensive ruts that we did have, how many times did we constantly see this Oline line just get pushed back 2-3 yards, ball carriers dropped behind the line of scrimmage, quarterback under duress even from just 3 to 4 d-lineman at times, and lately Captain Holding Penalty William Beatty.

 

Everything begins and ends with the offensive line. Guys like Walton and Jerry are sub-par. Richburg is either out of position or not ready yet, Pugh has been only okay, and Beatty is average. Collectively these five are disgustingly atrocious. Schwartz will certainly be an improvement but that's not enough.

 

If you ask me where the priority free agent money and draft picks go, it's to the offensive line. We need to bring in at least two solid veteran offensive lineman, and supplement that with at least one draft pick, better to have two.

 

If you look at the rest of the offensive positions, there's not much more that you're really worried about. OL OL OL damnit!!!

Well said.

The only thing i would even begin to argue here is that Beatty is average. He was a one man drive killer this year.

They cut Connor? I would have thought Hynoskis injury would have got him on the roster.

So we are going into the season w/ no blocking TE and no FB ??