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I was really pulling for LeKevin Smith, and I'm not quite sure why he's gone yet, unles it's off-the field issues. He's got a much different playing style than Cofield, really quick and disruptive off the snap.

I can't even make any kind of judgement on this pick. I haven't gotten one glimpse of him in action, and I'm just starting to read some of these scouting reports. Seems like he can have more upside than the remaining OT's on the board.

I don't like this pick, I would have been happier with quite a few other prospects ahead of him, but, we weren't exactly going to find a stud down here. It is what it is.

Prospect Profile: Barry Cofield By: TFY Draft Preview Date: Mar 20, 2006 . http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/511281.html Full Name: Barry Cofield School: Northwestern Pos: DT Ht: 6-4 Wt: 304 40: 5.01 Year: 4Sr Bio: Three-year starter who posted career numbers of 63/6.5/13 as a senior after junior totals of 52/5/15. Pos: Athletic prospect who flashes ability. Plays with good pad level, gets leverage on opponents and immediately changes his angle of attack, pursuing to the sidelines with speed. Relatively instinctive and reads the action. Resilient and stays with the play. Neg: Stymied at the point and very slow shedding blocks. Not a penetrating lineman. Analysis: Possessing outstanding computer numbers, Cofield is an average worker who has yet to meet the expectations of NFL scouts. Offers potential at defensive tackle or as a two-gap lineman but must take his game to the next level.

I don't think so. I believe that having Vince Young as his QB will only help his game. Tennessee is a great place for him.

That was actually a good one.

I actually like O'Callaghan above all the other OT's, I just don't know if he only projects to right tackle. Otherwise, he is the best mauler type out there, something our OL has lacked. One thing we've learned, the pick is usually someone we won't think of.

I'll tell you, I wouldn't be dissapointed with Jon Scott if he's still there and if we don't use our 1st 4th round pick on a DT. Anyone else?

That all depends on what you think of Cutler. My humble opinion, I'm not a big fan, but I suppose it can't hurt that he doesn't have to be thrown into the fire. They gave up a lot in this draft, and we'll see if it pays off for them.

Wow, Cleveland is going a bit LB crazy. Gotta respect that.

Babutunde, LeKevin Smith I'm very high on, Kyle Williams, and then maybe Orien Harris.

There aren't going to be clear winners or losers for quite some time, but it's never too early for an opinion. I agree that Buffalo is having the worst draft so far, and I'm not terribly impressed with Baltimore's draft either. Denver, Minnesota, and Jacksonville's drafts I haven't been terribly impressed with.

So far, I think Carolina and Philly have done a great job so far given their draft spots. Houston, despite not taking Reggie Bush, is putting together a really solid draft, and San Fran and St. Louis have seemingly improved a lot of need areas they were in dire need of.

Who are the top 5 winners and losers of the draft so far.

It's funny how these guys get labeled as only being able to do certain things at their respective positions. Someone like Babutunde can always be taught and end up working hard to become more of a two-gap DT.

I've seen Kiwi in a few games, and tracked him through the week of the Senior Bowl, and I never came away impressed. He would always get the accolades, but from what I saw, he just gets stopped in his tracks and pushed around way too often. He's a physical specimen, and he could bulk up, I just hope he's able to develop some consistency, and become more of a physical player altogether. What's worrisome to me is that it's very tough finding a DT on the 2nd day. Always productive looking back in hindsight, but I would have been much happier selecting Moss with our first pick, and using the #2 on either Wroten or Dvoracek.

I'm hoping either Babatunde Oshinowo or LeKevin Smith are one of those 4th rounders.

http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/525778.html Best Players Available after the first day By: TFY Draft Preview Date: Apr 29, 2006 A look at the best players still available on the board. Full Name School Gabe Watson Michigan Max Jean-Gilles Georgia Mark Anderson Alabama Alan Zemaitis Penn State Ko Simpson South Carolina Demetrius Williams Oregon Darnell Bing USC Victor Adeyanju Indiana Andre Hall South Florida Stanley McClover Auburn Marcus Maxey Miami-Fl Jerome Harrison Washington State Greg Eslinger Minnesota Will Blackmon Boston College Parys Haralson Tennessee Anwar Phillips Penn State Ray Edwards Purdue Mike Hass Oregon State Charles Gordon Kansas Barry Cofield Northwestern Montavious Stanley Louisville Jeff Webb San Diego State Rodrique Wright Texas Joe Toledo Washington Babatunde Oshinowo Stanford Ryan O'Callaghan California Dee Webb Florida Julian Jenkins Stanford Kyle Williams LSU DonTrell Moore New Mexico Jason Avant Michigan Jonathan Lewis Virginia Tech Mike Kudla Ohio State Pat Watkins Florida State Timothy Day Oregon Guy Whimper East Carolina Ryan LaCasse Syracuse Marcus Hudson North Carolina State Owen Daniels Wisconsin Spencer Havner UCLA Leon Washington Florida State Rob Sims Ohio State Jesse Mahelona Tennessee Jonathan Scott Texas Todd Watkins BYU Orien Harris Miami-Fl Demario Minter Georgia Mike Bell Arizona Hank Baskett New Mexico James Wyche Syracuse Quinton Ganther Utah Nate Salley Ohio State Martin Nance Miami-Oh Brian Iwuh Colorado Jermey Mincey Florida Tim McGarigle Northwestern Wali Lundy Virginia Greg Blue Georgia Fred Matua USC Rob Ninkovich Purdue Antonie Bethea Howard Freddie Roach Alabama Jeff King Virginia Tech Jonathan Orr Wisconsin Zach Strief Northwestern Lawrence Vickers Colorado P.J. Daniels Georgia Tech Eric Henderson Georgia Tech Isaac Sowells Indiana LeKevin Smith Nebraska William Kershaw Maryland Omar Jacobs Bowling Green Michael Robinson Penn State Titus Adams Nebraska A.J. Nicholson Florida State Dawan Landry Georgia Tech Taurean Henderson Texas Tech Omar Gaither Tennessee Domata Peko Michigan State Derrick Martin Wyoming Skyler Green LSU Kevin Boothe Cornell Dale Robinson Arizona State Elvis Dumervil Louisville John Torp Colorado Brandon Marshall Central Florida Marvin Philip California Albert Toeaina Tennessee Dion Byrum Ohio Hubert Walker Central Missouri State Brandon Johnson Louisville Ingle Martin Furman Dan Stevenson Notre Dame David Kirtman USC Jeromey Clary Kansas State Chijioke Onyenegecha Oklahoma Michael Toudouze TCU Kedric Golston Georgia Ryan Plackemeier Wake Forest Terna Nande Miami-Oh Chris Harrell Penn State Joshua Tinch Louisville Josh Lay Pittsburgh Stephen Tulloch North Carolina State Darrell Hackney UAB Ben Obomanu Auburn Darrell Hunter Miami-Oh Travis Williams Auburn Will Montgomery Virginia Tech Reggie McNeal Texas A&M Troy Reddick Auburn Willie Colon Hofstra Chris Taylor Indiana Charlie Peprah Alabama Bruce Gradkowski Toledo Adam Stenavich Michigan Gerald Riggs Jr. Tennessee Gilbert Harris Arizona Greg Lee Pittsburgh Terrence Whitehead Oregon Garret Mills Tulsa McKinley Boykin Mississippi Jamar Williams Arizona State Jahri Evans Bloomsburg State Jason Hall Tennessee Brad Butler Virginia D.J. Shockley Georgia Calvin Lowry Penn State Tony Tella Miami-Fl Justin Wyatt USC Damarius Bilbo Georgia Tech Quadtrine Hill Miami-Fl Mike Degory Florida Terrence Pennington New Mexico Kai Parham Virginia Brett Basanez Northwestern Tommy Jackson Auburn Henry Anderson Oregon State Matt Bernstein Wisconsin Wendell Mathis Fresno State T.J. Williams North Carolina State Dennis Roland Georgia Will Allen Texas Moe Thompson x-South Carolina Jarrad Page UCLA Anthony Mix Auburn Tim Dobbins Iowa State Nick Reid Kansas Cory Rodgers TCU Steve Weatherford Illinois Mark Setterstrom Minnesota Jahmile Addae West Virginia Melvin Oliver LSU Naufahu Tahi BYU Alton McCann West Virginia Donovan Raiola Wisconsin Gerrick McPhearson Maryland Cedric Humes Virginia Tech Charlie Johnson Oklahoma State Cameron Vaughn LSU J.D. Runnels Oklahoma Tim Massaquoi Michigan Devin Aromashodu Auburn Charles Bennett Clemson

"If the Giants stayed at No. 25 they would have picked Kiwanuka anyway." Didn't see that one coming.

http://giants.scout.com/2/525842.html Giants Busy on Draft Day By: Paul Schwartz Giants Insider Date: Apr 29, 2006 Move down and get the guy you targeted. Move up and land your man. It was unconventional and in some ways a bit baffling, but the Giants yesterday believe they manipulated the NFL Draft to suit their needs. In the first round, the Giants nearly traded completely out of the round, dropping from No. 25 to the 32nd overall pick to shockingly select Mathias Kiwanuka, a pass-rushing defensive end from Boston College. That might sound odd, considering the Giants already have two of the NFL's supreme pass-rushing defensive ends in Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora. Then, a team that eschewed two more highly-touted receivers went against its tendency of preferring towering targets to trade up in the second round to nab tiny speed demon Sinorice Moss of Miami. Of the myriad of players the Giants could have taken, no one anticipated them scooping up a defensive end. "It's my philosophy and shared by people in this organization you never, ever have enough pass rushers,'' GM Ernie Accorsi said. "They are like home run hitters and pitchers. You just never have enough of them.'' The Giants sure have plenty of them. Strahan and Umenyiora are Pro Bowlers and getting to the quarterback is also the strength of second-year Justin Tuck. Plus, the Giants just signed LaVar Arrington, one of the most gifted pass-rushing linebackers in captivity. Where Kiwanuka fits in may be a mystery but coach Tom Coughlin said "Scheme-wise we can arrange that,'' and Accorsi added "Suffice it to say we wouldn't have picked him if we didn't feel he would be on the field.'' It was quite an unpredictable afternoon for the Giants. In the second round, they swapped second-round picks with the Colts (moving up from No. 56 to No. 44) to take Moss, younger brother of Santana Moss, a played Accorsi coveted five years ago. The Giants also gave their third-round pick (87th overall) to the Colts. Moss was the Giants top-rated receiver in the entire draft. "We do have big receivers,'' Accorsi said. "We needed that type of receiver. He is not a possession guy. Speed kills.'' Owning the 25th overall pick, the Giants opted to trade with the Steelers, acquiring the 32nd overall pick - the very last selection in the first round. The Steelers moved up to take Ohio State receiver Santonio Holmes. In return, the Giants acquired two draft picks from Pittsburgh - a third-round pick (96th overall) and a fourth-round pick (129th overall). It was the fourth time in the last six years Accorsi orchestrated a trade in the first round. In all, the Giants began the day owning six picks and ended it owning seven. Trading down seven spots was only a minor risk in the eyes of the Giants. There were seven players remaining on the board "we could have lived with'' according to Accorsi and five players "we would have been happy with.'' Three of the five were still there at No. 32 and Kiwanuka was the highest-rated of the five. After No. 25 and before No. 32, the Giants would have been happy with defensive tackle John McCargo (who went to the Bills at No. 26) and cornerback Kelly Jennings (who went at No. 31 to the Seahawks). If the Giants stayed at No. 25 they would have picked Kiwanuka anyway. Moss is only 5-8 and 185 pounds but he's been clocked at 4.39. He figures to fit in immediately as a slot receiver and jet-quick compliment to Plaxico Burress and Amani Toomer. Moss was not very productive at Miami operating with a far weaker passing attach than his brother Santana enjoyed. "I don't want to put that on him, but if he's as good as his brother that would be great,'' said Accorsi, who added the Giants would have taken Moss in the first round if other options weren't available.

Fair enough...but for the people who do follow the draft and college football, like myself, can certainly vent. Kiwi, to me, certainly was a bit of a headscratcher. I like the rest of the picks, but sometimes, I just can't stand reading afterwards the same old lines from Accorsie and Coughlin about how highly rated Kiwi was, and that they were set to take him at #25 and so on and so forth. Bottom line, didn't like the first pick, but I can't complain about the other 2.

Gateb, everyone is allowed their opinion. People are allowed to disagree with a pick.

Still available... Winston Justice Jimmy Williams Daniell Bullocks Richard Marchall Sinorice Moss Nick Mangold Demeco Ryans Not a bad list.

Now, we got find out what the Bills gave up. Remember, if we traded down to the Bills for a 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick, they would would have been much better picks.

Not really...it's a fair deal, but we didn't rob them. They're still at the end of the 3rd and 4th rounds.