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Blah, Blah Blah, Jones contract has us all fucked up!

Falcons just gave Kirk Cousins their left leg, and he's coming off an Achilles tear at his age. But we're giving Jones $40 mil which is killing us. Give me a fucking break.

1 minute ago, Sephiroth said:

What kind of dog shit advice has Barkley been given his entire career? Dude could have gone anywhere and come back as a Giants media personality for the rest of his life, now he's got NO CHANCE of that ever happening.

Hope he enjoys being Penn State's radio color commentator.

He even changed agents. He's not happy about last year, it's clear from his words at the end of the season.

It sucks, the running back market is just an exchange of players from one team to another. Josh Jacobs is in Green Bay today and Aaron Jones is out. Go figure.

5 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said:

Oh yes the whole "a player should take less to stay here" lol 

Do you ask your boss for a pay decrease?  

Also like Pdoub just posted, the Giants never even tried to make him an offer.

Any money Saquon got last year would have been an increase on his previous contract.  It's has to do with how big on an increase. Clearly he didn't agree with their assessment.

They didn't make him an offer this season. They tried to make a deal last season,  and during the bye week the previous season.

13 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said:

We could of paid Barkley instead of Jones last offseason. 

But yeah I'm sure the 60 million Jones has made his first two years of the deal (possibly 80 if he gets hurt) has nothing to do with it. 

If the Giants wanted to extend themselves to sign Barkley last year, they would have. He could have also taken less to stay if he wanted to badly enough, he didn't.

If the Eagles want to extend themselves by signing him, that's on them. Schoen is handling this correctly.

I'm sorry he's gone, but considering that he signed so quickly for our rival would lean into the idea he probably had no intention of agreeing with us.

And again, because we are paying Jones, has nothing to do with us paying Barkley. 

Need a new jersey

You play the best guys regardless of if they are injury prone.

It's stupid to base value on being injury prone. He may also stay healthy.

Giants aren't replacing Jones. He's the starter next season.

16 hours ago, Sephiroth said:

I don't love Adoree either but what else are we going to do for that price at that position? Dude made so many business decisions during the second half of the season... but for 9 mil you're probably either looking at washed-up Stephon Gilmore or rolling with an unproven high draft pick otherwise.

Josh Dobbs is estimated at 2 mil per season. Dude made 1.5 this year and I feel like he's still under valued.

I don't see him getting $9 million from anyone else so not sure what we'd be offering him that. There are cornerbacks being released and will be released that are better than him.

Josh Dobbs deserves at least top level backup qb pay. He was traded for twice last season. I think he's worth more than $2 million. If we could do it for that price I'd be okay with it.

I'd take him as a backup in a heartbeat. Stupid Denver is basically paying his wages this year. That said if he's heading to Pittsburgh he has a better chance there to start.

Yeah once you said bring back Adoree at 9 million a year you lost me. He was the weakest corner on the team last year. Time to move on.

And Josh Dobbs is worth more than 2 million a year now. Minshew is a better option but he's too expensive and he probably hopes he can go somewhere to compete. 

Chiefs money will go to Chris Jones, that's the priority. They are good at running back.

6 hours ago, UK-Giantsfan said:

we are getting a bit lucky in recent games Boo ....... but i'll take it. ( 99th minute winners are special things )

shame that Utd crumbled in the second half yesterday but City are light years ahead i'm afraid

Light years is correct UK. The fact we held out as long as we did was amazing. We'll see what the new regime does but it's painful right now.

I think you'll win it. I just think they are all keyed up to get Klopp over the line. That said, Arsenal are not going away this year. Rice has made the difference.

On the other end, Jeez Sheffield United have just brought nothing to the Premier this year, awful stuff. And I thought Burnley might stay up , but they are toast also. 

If the guy has had enough, he's had enough. See Andrew Luck.

Some of these guys want out before their bodies take too much of a beating. It's not a bad thing.

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i don't think Schoen is going to go back on his word. I think the Giants take the best player available and it's not going to be a QB. 

Amazon deal kicking in. Good news for us.

Back on top UK. Think you will have more by seasons end.

17 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said:

Has either Landon Collins or that other safety done much since leaving the Giants?

Not saying they aren't good just I never tracked either of them.

Not much but it doesn't matter. DC gave him his money, I doubt they feel he was worth it.

If the other safety is Julian Love, then he just made the probowl.

We wouldn't pay Collins years ago and he was better. I am okay moving on. 

Having Sam Howell as your QB doesn't help matters.

Not sure why Michigan does this, if Wink has problems dealing with a younger Daboll, then how's that going to work with Sherrone Moore?

Not sure we are getting much better with this guy. The defensive players have gotten better through the draft and free agency clearly so I think that the defensive improves as the quality improves. I don't think we're moving the needle much with this hire.

3 hours ago, Herc said:

Maybe but Christ was Mahomes amazing navigating that pass rush tonight.  THAT’S the standard for “he shouldn’t need an o-line look at his salary”

Mahomes is great, not saying he isn't. But Kelce figures shit out on the routes and once they started getting the ball to him, they got going.

A good tight end is a big part of the offense, he's at another level. Just the way it is.

They can talk all they want about Mahomes, that team goes through Travis Kelce. You saw it again tonight.

Hope they do a better job laying it out than they did when I went to watch United and Arsenal this summer, it was shit.

Honestly, it's the wrong stadium, bad sight lines all over. I hate Philly but the Linc is better.