lemmiwinks

Should I mention the fact that

1. Ike had Dave Brown and Danny Kannell throwing to him.

2. Ike was never the first target on throws.

 

Much to your chagrin, Ike isn't bust, he didn't

live up to his selection, but was still productive.

Same could be said about Shockey, his bark

has certainly been louder than his bite.

 

No Ike caught balls from Eli Collins Warner.....Ike only played his first 2 years with those other bumbs

 

Oh remember that Dallas game Elis rookie year..That come back...Ike had 3 catches in that game

 

Collins started 7 games in 99...Ikes best year...For 5 years with Kerry 1 year with Eli, Warner..2years with Kennel.......Kennell started 97-98...If Ike caught any passes for Brown it couldnt be any more then 2....in 97 Ike only caught 2 passes ...Brown went to the Cards in 98..He could have never caught a Ball from brown...

 

Oh and in 99 Kenell only started 9 games...So Ike only caught from Kennell for a 1 and 1/2...

 

And if you want to compare the two why not just pick the 2 seasons they played together

 

02

Ike 27c catch 386y

Shock 74C 894y

03

Shock 48C 535y

Ike 60C 608Y

 

Oh by the way...Any one who says Ike is better WR then Shockey is a TE is retarded....Shockey is top 5 NFL...Ike was never top 15 in the NFL...So stop being stoopid

Good job picking his 2004 stats. What about his other ones?

WHOOPS. Speaking of 7th overall wideouts, would you have rather

had Reidel Anthony who is probably working in a Jiffy Lube in Florida,

Yatil Green who is selling insurance or Rae Carruth? A man who was

found guilty of hiring a hit man to murder his pregnant girlfriend at the time.

 

You choose Nem, which one would you rather have?

 

How about Derrick Mason

Bout G-D time

Honestly, Luke sucked ass. Sure he had a decent year before the injury but still he was terrible. Something tells me (well all the rumors I've been hearing) that this Whimper guy is ready.

 

I heard that last year when he was on the practice squade he was going a "good Job" against Osi...But I guess we wont know until Preseason when we can watch him in action

 

And I agree...Luke sucked....Only think we could count on was False starts and back problems

When the fuck did wizdom become a Mod???

Who cares about Mel Kiper? Rumor has it he takes money from agent who are trying to boost their clients status in the draft.

 

You can thank the Jets for making this guy so famous.

 

Also...Isnt his wife some big wige for ESPN and got him the job?

Oh by the way....Who picked behind Dallas....Oh thats right KC...the same team who has been shoping there QB for the last few months, they would have jumped on Quinn ....I really think what dallas got we werent offered

Who cares....its done with. Reese also said he received offers to trade down but they were trying to "low ball" him. Maybe they got desperate and uped the offer...What the cowboys got may not have been what we were offered....We had no leverage because we dont need a QB...

I liked the first 2 picks..Think they bring depth and play making ability. 3rd...Not sure what to think on this one...Dont realy know much about him besides he is a good rusher....Here I will have to give Reese the benifit of the doute....Reese was the reason for Osi & KIwa so the guy doese know good pass rushers when he see them....4th on...Got good value...I like DeOssie..Dont know much about the rest but from what Iv read they were goo choices...Over all I have to give this draft an big A

Even if the trade were just for depth I would be for it...

The guy is an idiot....Every other site on the web sides ESPN gives the giants high marks...Seen nothing lower then a B and some sites gave us an A

Shit by my estimation, SHockey and his 50 some odd receptions that did not go for Td's would have cost us over 250 yards in penalties last year

 

I was thinking the same think when I read that

A great defense!. Yes, we know they were better, but please compare both offense and you'll see that overall 2006 has more talent, not to mention the fact that Eli was more highly touted than Simms. Simms was booed when he was drafted, Eli was cheered.

 

Simms was tougher, when the going got tough, he dug down. When the stakes were higher, he raised his game. Eli hasn't done that yet.

 

You know what your right...Eli doesn't have numerous come from behind wins ....Oh and why dont you compair the Coaching and play calling while your at it.....And by the way...Eli was Booed and is still being booed...Oh and simms is the Most over rated QB the Giants ever had...Go back and what those videos again...Eli is 10X the QB simms was at that point...and by the way that was Simms 6th year

Well, seeing that both Ruben Drougnes (sp)and Brandon Jacobs are short yard back. I can see them both spliting time in goal lines situations.

 

Fine.....Be that way

 

Yds - 1250

YPC - 4.5

TD - 10

Catches - 30

Yards - 310

TDC - 2

 

So what your saying is he will carry the ball 2X more and only have one more TD then last year? Sorry but I have to say 15+ at the least....

11-5.

 

11 carries 5 yards? Wow he sucks....

How many Yards / Yards per carry / TD's / rec / rec yards rec TD's do you think he will have this upcoming season?

 

Here is mine

 

Yards = 1478

YPR = 4.8

TD's = 17

Rec = 20

Rec Y = 269

Rec TD = 3

 

 

I'd take it

I dont think the Giants really want Briggs...I think they are trying to drive up the price on the Skins....I dont think Reese really wants to pay him 5-6 Mil a year...Mainly because he is cheap

You have got to be kidding right? Bust? A bust doesnt lead his team to the Playoffs 2 years in a row even thow they have one of the worst D's in the game...A bust doesnt throw 54 TD's in 39 games...A bust doesnt improve every year....48% comp 52% comp 57% comp..If he keeps improving at that rate he will be 61% passer this up comming season. ...."He doesnt show any emotion" Why is is good when he throws a game winning TD and bad when he throws an Int? Ever hear the whole "act like youve been there before". In the Day of the "show boat" everyone wants a QB to be yelling and screeming...Why? what doese this do? Motavate your team....Think back to all the times your parents yelled at you...After a while didnt you just drown them out? Also...If our D could hold another team in the 4th quarter We would have won at least 3 more games...not including the playoff game...So dont kill the guy that helps us to ba a top 10 scoring O ...Kill the D that is ranked in the mid to late 20's....

ITS OVER>>>>>WILSON MIGHT HAVE FLUNKED THE PHISICAL http://mvn.com/nfl-giants/

Is that a reliable source?

 

 

Theys guys were reporting this trade could happen before anyone else was...They were right about Plax, LA, and a few more before the fact....Theys guys are good!!

Where did you get that?

 

Ive got my sorces... :brooding:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just playing http://mvn.com/nfl-giants/

He'll have to pick a new number. His stats look pretty good though. He's consistantly a 15-16 game starter which is something we've been sorely lacking at LB.

 

 

He is a 5 time probowler...This is a great trade

I am going to reserve judgement on the trade until I see what we are giving up, but if it is Strahan for Wilson I think the FBI should start investigating Reese for Grand Theft.

 

The early reports are Tuck and we swaped First round picks...They are at 21 we are at 20...even if we threw in a 4th or 5th this is a hell of a deal

My bad...I dont travel much to GD these days