lemmiwinks

Vince Lombardi went to the same high school I did.

I win.

Oh big deal.....I had Cooking with God...He ended up getting suspended for making sangria when the teacher wasn't looking...

This has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever seen....

They have us ranked 31 in "Title track" (Past and future titles expected)

We have 3 Superbowl Victories and multipule "Championships"

Yet they rank

Tampa (1sb)

Bal (1sb)

Denver (2sb)

All ahead of us??

Couching...This is a joke

Cards (0 playoffs in past 10 + years)

Texans

Are both ranked higher then us

Total Rank

Seahawks

Jags

Chargers

All ranked as better teams then the Giants??? We have more titles just this past year then they do in their history...

How about total history...How about best coaching staffs ever....BP tree alone has produced 6 superbowls, The Owen tree has produced 7 NFL chanpionshipd and 4 SB titles....

I hate these stoopid things

Certainly Manningham is not going to be expected to be the brains of the organization, but he has natural football instincts that has nothing to do with intelligence. His intelligence shouldn't be a problem with the position he's playing......unless he isn't smart enough to stay out of drugs.

 

Depending on what you read, the Quarterback should be one of the smartest players (if not the smartest) on the team and the talking heads say any QB who scores less than 25 on the test means he is a major risk.

 

But Vince Young was an outstanding QB who also scored "6" on his wonderlic.

 

QB Dan Marino scored a "14"

 

QB Jeff George scored a "10"

 

LB Roderick Green scored a "3", yet went on to have a good career with the Ravens, and then the Forty-Niners where he was their top pass rusher

 

RB Darren Davis scored a "4", yet was an all-Big 12 running back at Iowa State and the first player in school history to rush for over 1000 yards three times in a career. Ended up as a stellar RB in the Canadian football league with consecutive 1000 yard years along with 247 yard game in 2002 and 298 yard game in 2003

 

So bottom line: Manningham isn't going to be taking tests on geography and science as a Giant. His job will be to run elusive routes and catch the ball.

Thats great and all but Vince Young killed your arguement..LOL

He is a Wr...He doesn't need to be smart to be great...Look at Chris Carter...He is half a retard

Rarely do I have anything positive to say about Nas, but, I think that he was just trying to be humorous. I think that he, like most of us, believe that last years draft was triple A.

yeah....

ESPN

DE Wallace Gilberry - (6'2 , 268, 5.0 - 40 yard)

Strengths: Possesses adequate-to-good height and bulk and tough, aggressive and active versus the run. Hands continue to improve and he does a decent job of getting off blocks, finding the ball and pursuing. Generally displays good leverage out of his stance. He is a good open-field tackler for his position. Displays good initial pop and will stand some OT's up with his short area explosiveness. He displays some quality power moves as a pass rusher. Plays with a great motor and is relentless. Excellent experience at the highest collegiate level and has been exceptionally durable as well as reliable throughout his career.

Weaknesses: Lacks any elite qualities. Does not display good top-end speed or closing burst as a pass rusher. Will struggle to turn the corner as an edge rusher and will never be much of a threat in that facet of the game. Tried to line up at linebacker during Senior Bowl week but appeared stiff in coverage and clearly lacked the speed necessary to turn and run with tight ends. Plays power-DE in college but does not possess elite size and will need to improve his base in order to contribute as a situational run-plugger type. Gets good initial pop but will struggle to anchor versus bigger, stronger OTs.

Overall: Gilberry was redshirted when he arrived at Alabama in 2003. In his first three seasons (2004-06), he played in 37 games (25 starts) and recorded 108 tackles, 33.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks. As a senior, he started all 13 games at left defensive end and delivered 80 tackles (27 for losses), 10 sacks and two forced fumbles. Gilberry underwent arthroscopic surgery on his right knee the summer before joining the Tide in '03. Gilberry is a tough run defender who makes the most of his natural ability and is capable of providing quality depth but he doesn't have a great deal of upside and he isn't a great fit at any one position. He isn't big enough to develop into an every-down two-gap end, he lacks the burst of an every-down one-gap end and he isn't athletic enough to move to outside linebacker full time. Keeping all of that in mind, Gilberry projects as a late fourth or early fifth round pick.

DE Antonio Reynold, (6'2 , 252, 4.799 - 40 yard) SI (6'2 255, 4.85 40 Yard)

SI

BIOGRAPHY: Senior totals included 31/5.5/3 when he moved into the starting lineup. Junior numbers included 37/4.5/1 when he played in 13 games.

POSITIVES: Athletic prospect with an inconsistent game. Plays with excellent pad level, gets leverage on opponents and quickly changes direction or immediately alters his angle of attack. Pursues down the line making plays laterally and quickly closes on the ball.

NEGATIVES: Inconsistent in college and has been marginally productive. Lacks bulk and handled at the point. Slow finding the ball and not instinctive.

ANALYSIS: Reynolds has flashed ability in pass two seasons yet has been plagued with sporadic and unproductive play. He offers the skills to be en eight defensive lineman at the next level if he ever puts forth the effort.

PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent

S Nehemiah Warrick (6'0 , 211, 4.54 - 40 yard)

Strengths: Gets adequate knee bend in backpedal and closes quickly when receivers catch the ball in front of him. Shows good range, has long arms so doesn't have to be in perfect position to get hands on the ball and capable of covering the deep half of the field when plays with sound technique. Has good size, tall enough to add more bulk to frame and can line up in the box. Plays with a mean streak and flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Has experience returning kickoffs as well as punts and can contribute on special teams.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal instincts, takes too long to locate the ball and vulnerable to play action. Takes too many false steps and lacks the second gear to recover once caught out of position. Turns shoulders too quickly when trying to funnel receivers inside and is vulnerable to effective double moves. Gets caught looking into the backfield too much, doesn't appear to read routes well and allows receivers to get behind him when asked to cover the deep half of the field. Has big hands but lacks ideal ball skills and isn't much of a playmaker in coverage. Shows adequate-at-best upper body strength, doesn't show a violent punch and takes too long to shed blocks. Doesn't always take sound angles to the ball and could make more plays in pursuit. Fails to wrap up at times and is an inconsistent open field tackler. Missed one game with a knee injury in 2006, missed one game with an ankle injury in 2007 and durability is a minor concern.

Overall: Warrick enrolled at Hutchinson (Kan.) CC in 2004, walking on to the team and recording 36 receptions for 516 yards (14.3 average) and four touchdowns as a freshman wide receiver. He moved to cornerback in 2005 but transitioned to safety during the season, turning in 60 tackles, two interceptions and eight pass breakups on his way to NJCAA first-team All-America honors. In 2006, he transferred to Michigan State and appeared in 11 games (10 starts) in his first season with the Spartans, posting 45 tackles (3.5 for losses) and three pass breakups. As a senior in 2007, Warrick played 12 games and had 61 tackles (one for a loss) and three pass breakups. He missed one game in '07 because of a lower leg injury and sat out a game in '06 after twisting his knee. There's a lot to like about Warrick's size, speed and burst but he is a far better football player than athlete at this point and there is some concern he will never realize his potential because he makes too many mistakes for a player with his experience. With that in mind, he projects as a late fifth or early sixth round pick.

OL / OG Andrew Bain (6'3, 325, 5.299 - 40 yard)

Strengths: Possesses adequate height and excellent bulk. Is thickly built and well-proportioned. Displays adequate short-area mobility and plays with good body control for size. Physical and can engulf defenders when gets squared up at the point of attack.

Weaknesses: Consistently comes out of his stance too high and loses power at the point of attack as a result. He plays under control but lacks ideal initial quickness out of stance. Is massive but not explosively strong. Absorbs defenders too frequently instead of initiating contact. Looks hesitant too often and also leaves his feet more than he should. Lacks ideal experience and is still learning position. Overall technique and awareness need improvement. While has some experience lining up at tackle, lack of agility would be exposed there at the NFL so doesn't have great versatility.

Overall: Bain was redshirted in 2003. In his first three seasons at Miami (2004-'06), he played in 32 games (14 starts), primarily at left guard. As a senior in 2007, he started 10 games at left guard, missing two because of a quadriceps injury. Bain also saw action at right guard and offensive tackle with the Hurricanes. Bain lacks the height and feet to ever become more than a backup guard in the NFL. However, he has excellent bulk and enough short-area mobility to work with so he projects as a late round pick or rookie free agent.

OL / OT Glenn "Digger" Bujnoch (6'3 , 287, 5.2 - 40 yard) SI (6'5 285, 5.29 - 40 yard)

SI

BIOGRAPHY: Three-year starter at right tackle who saw time at tight end early in his college career.

POSITIVES: Hard-working small-area tackle who projects to guard at the next level. Quick in all aspects of his game, makes terrific use of angles and body positioning, and attacks assignments. Stays square, effectively places his hands into defenders, and keeps his feet moving. Plays with a good degree of intelligence and keeps his head on a swivel.

NEGATIVES: Struggles to adjust and beaten by quick opponents. Lacks a dominant base and does not get much movement run-blocking.

ANALYSIS: Bujnoch has been a productive and mostly durable prospect in college, yet he must improve his playing strength for any chance at the next level.

Super Mario

 

Hey Next Year Pac Man with be covering Super Mario

Giants Drafte Grade: D- .... again!!!

DAM you PRINCE!!! If you didn't have diplomatic immunity I would... ...Uh are you even a real Prince.....YOU SIR ARE A LIER!!!

merged topics.

 

We have two more picks left. I wonder if we go Kicker with one of those.

Didn't we sign Tynes long term?? Maybe punter that JF can teach up??

6-4 235...Another big guy

good site for highlight videos

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/viewprorank.asp?ra_key=132

http://vucommodores.cstv.com/sports/m-foot...jonathan00.html

SINGLE-GAME HIGHS

SOLO TACKLES: 9, twice, most recently at Tennessee, 11/19/2005

TOTAL TACKLES: 14, at Arkansas, 9/10/2005

 

2006

Defensive captain... Started every game at middle linebacker, extending career consecutive start streak to 27 games... Named Second team All-Southeastern Conference linebacker in coaches' ballot... Recipient of team's postseason Most Valuable Linebacker Award... Topped Commodores with 67 solo tackles and 93 total tackles, and ranked among team leaders with four quarterback hurries (T-1st), six tackles for loss (T-5th), 2.5 quarterback sacks (5th) and two forced fumbles (T-3rd)... Achieved at least five total tackles in all but one game... Started season in strong fashion, earning team's Defensive Player of the Week honors against Michigan after setting career highs in solo stops (12) and total tackles (14) in front of 109,000 fans and a national ESPN audience at Ann Arbor... Also blocked a Wolverine field goal attempt... Returned in Week 2 to produce another outstanding individual performance at Alabama, racking up 13 total tackles and a pair of forced fumbles in narrow loss to Crimson Tide... Contributed seven tackles in Commodore road win at Georgia and 10 total tackles and a sack in road win at Duke... Shared team's Defensive Player of the Week honors after nine-tackle, one-sack effort in narrow home loss to Florida... Helped Commodores stage late comeback against eventual national champion Gators with two individual defensive plays: an interception of Chris Leak attempt deep in Vanderbilt territory and timely tackle for loss of QB Tim Tebow on third down that halted another second half Florida drive.

 

2005

Showed continued improvement in every game as starter at middle linebacker... Concluded season as team's third leading tackler with 47 solo stops and 63 total tackles... Established new season career highs in virtually every defensive category, including tackles for loss (3) and quarterback hurries (2)... Also contributed a quarterback sack and two defensed passes... Named team's Defensive Player of the Week after nine-tackle performance versus Kentucky... Played superb game in season-ending win at Tennessee, posting 10-tackle effort... Set single game career high with 14 tackles in early season road win at Arkansas... Totalled at least four tackles in nine games.

 

2004

Played in every game, starting final four outings at middle linebacker... First collegiate start came at LSU... Set single-game career highs in primary tackles (7) and total tackles (9) at Kentucky... Contributed seven tackles versus Florida... In first start, had five tackles and forced fumble at LSU... Posted five tackles in finale versus Tennessee... Co-Defensive Player of the Week at Kentucky... Special Teams Player of the Week versus Eastern Kentucky.

 

2003

Redshirted. Earned scout team Defensive Player of the Week honors after UT-Chattanooga and Mississippi State games.

Cool thanks

Pick 165

Please tell me about him

Just stop. As a punt returner he could redefine the meaning of "Special Teams."

That's fucked up

 

And a cruel way to welcome one of our newest Giants

With that score I don't know if he could read what we write about him

WOW check out the highlight real over on Giants.com....This is very fast fro a guy his size

At what point Did JR or anyother coach say Moss was done here??? He was drafted in the 2nd 2 years ago??? Wouldn't it be a bit early to dump him???

Q: This is the second year in a row you have picked a receiver high. Does that say anything about Sinorice Moss?

 

A: Well, no it doesn’t say anything about Sinorice Moss. It says we are trying to pick good players. This guy is a good player. We are trying to pick good players. We are not giving up on Sinorice Moss. I think he is going to come in and have a big year for us because, again, last year to me with Sinorice Moss was like a rookie season for him because he missed most of the time his rookie season with injuries. So Sinorice has got something to prove. And I love players coming in that have something to prove. So he definitely has something to prove and I think he will do. We are definitely not giving up on Sinorice Moss.

This is great man Thanks....For a guy that was to young to recall any of this I thank you

This is what I think

Yeah I agree...I hate it when our 2nd year QB is inconsisitent

 

Sir Manning to the ProBowl!! Sir Manning SuperBowl MVP!! Sir Manning Leage MVP!! Sir Manning Hall of Fame!!! Sir Manning wins so many SuperBowls they rename it the Eli Bowl!!! All Eli Bowl commercials will have to have a pic of Sir Manning in the bottom right corner of the screen!!

 

Mark My words Sir Manning is as close to god as you will ever come!!

I did it again...SuperBowl MVP....I rock!!!

That was the first of many playoff's for Mr. Manning. I cant wait till next year when he takes us to the Superbowl and wins it...That will be great, I have already ordered my Giants superbowl ring

I was only off by one year

So we got him before the supplemental draft therefore no pick given up?

Well yes & no....We signed him after the Sup draft...But still not pick given up

I stand corrected. Even if it was myself who corrected me.

 

Fran had em w/ Minny. It hasnt been since Tittle in the 60's, a tad before my time. I remember them talkin before a game about Eli poss. breakin a team record if he got 25 TD's, I swear I do.

Fran Tarkenton had 29 in 1967..His first year with the G-men

Y.A. Tittle had 36 in 1963...which I think is the team records...

Does anyone know where one could find a list of Giants records and who owns them?

http://mvn.com/nfl-giants/ <----Thats a link

Good signing...very little to no risk...I like it

I love Tiki for what he has done on the field the last couple of years....That being said he always and I mean always... bashed...he bashed Fassel when he was here he bashed Strahand for his hold out a couple of years ago. He repeatedly bashed Tom....I truly think we will be better as a team then we were when he was here. There my not be as good a Giants RB as Tiki ever again...But as far as the locker room goes he was a constant headache and from what I have read and heard from other players he wasn't liked by the rest of his team do to his arrogance

Um...Why are you arguing with a cowboys fan...They would be nothing if it weren't for the Giants...Remember the whole Mara giving Landry to the boys so that the "new" franchise would be successful...Stoopid Cowboy fans...The Giants are one of the if not the most storied and historic team in the NFL....The cowboys are only a successful organization because of the Giants charity...