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Does anyone know the exact reason why he was released?

 

Was it that he wouldnt restructure his contract or was he

not fully healthy??

 

But too many times the Giants have let players go only to

show off their talents on another team.

If you have facts please respond.

You're not going to get the actual reason.

Coughlin, who did not say Green would be released when asked specifically about him, addressed a few other issues yesterday

http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?...3880.xml&coll=1

I thought that maybe NY would resign him at a lower salary, but after the arts i have read. I see this as less likely.

I'm also shocked that Barret Green was cut like Money and agree about him possibly declining to take a pay cut. As for Emmons, I belive the Giants are leaving him here for competition reasons. While the Giants are interested in Julian Peterson, I think the Giants will end up with a high drafted LB that they will have attempt to be the WLB. Since Emmons did get some decent playing time at WLB, he has some versatility. The Giants could have him in two battles, one for the SLB vs Reggie Torbor, and the other for the WLB vs the draft pick.

 

As for Whittle, I'm not all that shocked about his re-lease. Yes he's very versatile (he can play LG, RG, C, and he can long snap). He was making over a million dollars this year (correct me if I'm wrong) and they needed some more cap space.

i am guessing here but maybe Ny did not cut emmons so not to accelerate his Bonus money.

In all fairness Green has been hurt more than emmons, don;t get me wrong i like what i saw out of green when he was not injured, I loved it when he stuck up for manning when trotter was acting like a toolbag that one game.

But IMO this is simple math, the guy has not played, who is to say that he will be healthy next year, and for how long?

Again I see him resigning with NY for less momey. What team is gonna drop 2mil on this guy? He now has to prove himself again....this is the nature of the beast.....in the NFL.

The release of Barrett Green and Jason Whittle comes as a surprise to me. I thought that Carlos Emmons seemed like a better bet to get, and Whittle's versatility seemed to be enough to ensure his roster spot. The Giants really went out on a limb this past season for Green by keeping him on the active roster for several weeks before reluctantly placing him on IR. To add to that, a lot of Green's injury problems stem from misdiagnosis by the Giants medical staff. Factor in both Green's comparative youth (he is 4 years younger than Emmons) and Reggie Torbor waiting in the wings at SLB, and Emmons, to me, appeared to be a more logical choice for release. With Whittle, I suppose his salary was too high the justify his role on the team, despite his versatility. Interestingly enough, I heard from a fairly reliable source that Coughlin wanted to cut Whittle and keep Wayne Lucier instead at the end of the 2005 preseason. But Wellington Mara intervened and asked that Whittle stick around, and Coughlin obliged. I don't know if I buy that story (since it would suggest Whittle's departure should coincide with Lucier's triumphant return), but perhaps Coughlin thinks less of Whittle than I initially presumed. Anyway, here are some thoughts on these roster moves:

 

Barrett Green = OUT, Carlos Emmons = IN (but for how long?)

 

- Green getting released likely means one fo two things: either he is not healthy, or he refused a pay cut. I don't buy the line of reasoning the Coughlin wanted to get rid of Green because of his injuries. If that was the case, it would have happened earlier. The timing of this (a week or so before the start of free agency) indicates that a new contract agreement could not be reached ... or Green's knee is in worse condition than reported.

 

- Emmons not getting released has some interesting implications. It could mean the team fully expects him to be healthy and starting at SLB in 2006. Or it could mean that the Giants intend to enter 2006 with the same starting trio of LBs they had entering 2005: Emmons at WLB, Pierce at MLB, and Reggie Torbor at SLB. In that case, I imagine they would draft a pure WLB with a high draft choice to develop behind Emmons.

 

- Of course, Emmons could be on the way out, too. I have a hard time believing the team will keep him around at $4.0 million this year. Either the Giants are confident they can restructure Emmons (a development which may certainly have sealed Green's fate), or they intend to release him as well and use the savings to sign a new starting WLB in free agency.

 

- Regardless of the undertones of the Emmons/Green scenario, I imagine the team is going to either bring in a solid WLB via free agency (either big-name like Witherspoon or an unheralded guy like Leber), or invest a 1st or 2nd round pick in one. Green's departure combined with Emmons's situation makes that a lock.

 

Jason Whittle: Ex-Giant Again

 

- Whittle getting cut has two possible ramifactions -- 1.) the Giants are optimistic they will re-sign Bob Whitfield, and/or 2.) They intend to bring in another OL (likely LT) through the draft. They only have room for a standard 8 OL on next year's roster, and right now they have 6 guys guaranteed to be on the roster, barring injury: Petitgout, Diehl, O'Hara, Snee, McKenzie, Seubert. That being said, I can't imagine they would cut Whittle unless they are confident they can retain Whitfield, otherwise they are entering free agency with 2 key back-up spots to fill.

 

- This move may be a precursor to Seubert moving to OC part-time, or it could be a precursor to the Giants finding O'Hara's replacement. Since O'Hara is entering a contract year, it's possible that they may be prepared to draft an OC and let O'Hara walk in 2007.

 

- Assuming Whitfield returns and Seubert can successfully serve as the primary back-up to OG and OC (thus having 7 out of 8 lineman in place), the Giants may also be positioning themselves to add a rookie LT with a premium draft pick. They can develop that player while having veteran depth in Whitfield and Seubert.

 

- While the "Seubert to OC" is nice, the Giants just might add another vet interior lineman in free agency and forego investing a draft pick in a LT.

IMO green was released because he did not want to renegotiate his contract. I also believe he will resign for the league min depending on offers he gets from other teams.

I completely agree with this statment:

- This move may be a precursor to Seubert moving to OC part-time, or it could be a precursor to the Giants finding O'Hara's replacement. Since O'Hara is entering a contract year, it's possible that they may be prepared to draft an OC and let O'Hara walk in 2007.

I see seubert starting and not part-time next year, i see him having a good camp....

the real twist here will be the CBA....IMO