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Yea I like this pick. I think he is a very good project. Tackles that have quick feet are hard to find. He has a lot of upside.
I can't even make any kind of judgement on this pick. I haven't gotten one glimpse of him in action, and I'm just starting to read some of these scouting reports. Seems like he can have more upside than the remaining OT's on the board.
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I like this pick. His only obvious weakness is the pass rush, something we definitely don't need from our DT. He's a big, strong guy and I think has the potential to join our rotation.
I don't like this pick, I would have been happier with quite a few other prospects ahead of him, but, we weren't exactly going to find a stud down here. It is what it is.
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Prospect Profile: Barry Cofield
By: TFY Draft Preview
Date: Mar 20, 2006
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http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/511281.html
Full Name: Barry Cofield School: Northwestern Pos: DT
Ht: 6-4 Wt: 304 40: 5.01 Year: 4Sr
Bio: Three-year starter who posted career numbers of 63/6.5/13 as a senior after junior totals of 52/5/15.
Pos: Athletic prospect who flashes ability. Plays with good pad level, gets leverage on opponents and immediately changes his angle of attack, pursuing to the sidelines with speed. Relatively instinctive and reads the action. Resilient and stays with the play.
Neg: Stymied at the point and very slow shedding blocks. Not a penetrating lineman.
Analysis: Possessing outstanding computer numbers, Cofield is an average worker who has yet to meet the expectations of NFL scouts. Offers potential at defensive tackle or as a two-gap lineman but must take his game to the next level.
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Also, I can't wait for Lendale to be labelled as a "bust." All of you who are saying you wanted him right now will pretend like you knew he would suck and praise EA for passing on him, just like you would have.
I don't think so. I believe that having Vince Young as his QB will only help his game. Tennessee is a great place for him.
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We're gonna go with Mark Anderson because we can never have too many pass rushers
That was actually a good one.
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Jon Scott would be a great pick here. I didnt think he would fall this far. Guy Whimper is a tackle we are high on. Ryan O'Callaghan is another top tackle still there.
Rodrique Wright
Jonathan Lewis
Greg Eslinger
DeMario Minter
Pat Watkins
Orien Harris
Dee Webb
Marcus Hudson
Alan Zemaitis
I actually like O'Callaghan above all the other OT's, I just don't know if he only projects to right tackle. Otherwise, he is the best mauler type out there, something our OL has lacked.
One thing we've learned, the pick is usually someone we won't think of.
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I'll tell you, I wouldn't be dissapointed with Jon Scott if he's still there and if we don't use our 1st 4th round pick on a DT.
Anyone else?
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The Broncos have had a great draft so far. Trading up to get their QB and then trading for Javon Walker.
Losers... Well i'd say the Texans for passing up on Bush. Williams will be a good player but no matter how good he does he will be in Bush's shadow.
That all depends on what you think of Cutler. My humble opinion, I'm not a big fan, but I suppose it can't hurt that he doesn't have to be thrown into the fire. They gave up a lot in this draft, and we'll see if it pays off for them.
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Wow, Cleveland is going a bit LB crazy. Gotta respect that.
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ORIEN!
Babutunde, LeKevin Smith I'm very high on, Kyle Williams, and then maybe Orien Harris.
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The Eagles are having a hell of a draft. Oakland is looking pretty solid. Arizona really helped their offense. Green Bay got two really good LBs but a solid draft so far. Houston did a good job helping defense and offense.
There isnt any clear winners as of right now IMO, the second day picks will seperate some of these teams.
By far the worse -- Bills.
There aren't going to be clear winners or losers for quite some time, but it's never too early for an opinion.
I agree that Buffalo is having the worst draft so far, and I'm not terribly impressed with Baltimore's draft either. Denver, Minnesota, and Jacksonville's drafts I haven't been terribly impressed with.
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So far, I think Carolina and Philly have done a great job so far given their draft spots. Houston, despite not taking Reggie Bush, is putting together a really solid draft, and San Fran and St. Louis have seemingly improved a lot of need areas they were in dire need of.
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Who are the top 5 winners and losers of the draft so far.
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he is a two-gap DT. He won't ever make the eye popping plays but he is going to clog up the middle and won't be pushed around in the run game. I would love him in the fourth.
It's funny how these guys get labeled as only being able to do certain things at their respective positions. Someone like Babutunde can always be taught and end up working hard to become more of a two-gap DT.
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I've seen Kiwi in a few games, and tracked him through the week of the Senior Bowl, and I never came away impressed. He would always get the accolades, but from what I saw, he just gets stopped in his tracks and pushed around way too often.
He's a physical specimen, and he could bulk up, I just hope he's able to develop some consistency, and become more of a physical player altogether.
What's worrisome to me is that it's very tough finding a DT on the 2nd day. Always productive looking back in hindsight, but I would have been much happier selecting Moss with our first pick, and using the #2 on either Wroten or Dvoracek.
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I'm hoping either Babatunde Oshinowo or LeKevin Smith are one of those 4th rounders.
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http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/525778.html
Best Players Available after the first day
By: TFY Draft Preview
Date: Apr 29, 2006
A look at the best players still available on the board.
Full Name School
Gabe Watson Michigan
Max Jean-Gilles Georgia
Mark Anderson Alabama
Alan Zemaitis Penn State
Ko Simpson South Carolina
Demetrius Williams Oregon
Darnell Bing USC
Victor Adeyanju Indiana
Andre Hall South Florida
Stanley McClover Auburn
Marcus Maxey Miami-Fl
Jerome Harrison Washington State
Greg Eslinger Minnesota
Will Blackmon Boston College
Parys Haralson Tennessee
Anwar Phillips Penn State
Ray Edwards Purdue
Mike Hass Oregon State
Charles Gordon Kansas
Barry Cofield Northwestern
Montavious Stanley Louisville
Jeff Webb San Diego State
Rodrique Wright Texas
Joe Toledo Washington
Babatunde Oshinowo Stanford
Ryan O'Callaghan California
Dee Webb Florida
Julian Jenkins Stanford
Kyle Williams LSU
DonTrell Moore New Mexico
Jason Avant Michigan
Jonathan Lewis Virginia Tech
Mike Kudla Ohio State
Pat Watkins Florida State
Timothy Day Oregon
Guy Whimper East Carolina
Ryan LaCasse Syracuse
Marcus Hudson North Carolina State
Owen Daniels Wisconsin
Spencer Havner UCLA
Leon Washington Florida State
Rob Sims Ohio State
Jesse Mahelona Tennessee
Jonathan Scott Texas
Todd Watkins BYU
Orien Harris Miami-Fl
Demario Minter Georgia
Mike Bell Arizona
Hank Baskett New Mexico
James Wyche Syracuse
Quinton Ganther Utah
Nate Salley Ohio State
Martin Nance Miami-Oh
Brian Iwuh Colorado
Jermey Mincey Florida
Tim McGarigle Northwestern
Wali Lundy Virginia
Greg Blue Georgia
Fred Matua USC
Rob Ninkovich Purdue
Antonie Bethea Howard
Freddie Roach Alabama
Jeff King Virginia Tech
Jonathan Orr Wisconsin
Zach Strief Northwestern
Lawrence Vickers Colorado
P.J. Daniels Georgia Tech
Eric Henderson Georgia Tech
Isaac Sowells Indiana
LeKevin Smith Nebraska
William Kershaw Maryland
Omar Jacobs Bowling Green
Michael Robinson Penn State
Titus Adams Nebraska
A.J. Nicholson Florida State
Dawan Landry Georgia Tech
Taurean Henderson Texas Tech
Omar Gaither Tennessee
Domata Peko Michigan State
Derrick Martin Wyoming
Skyler Green LSU
Kevin Boothe Cornell
Dale Robinson Arizona State
Elvis Dumervil Louisville
John Torp Colorado
Brandon Marshall Central Florida
Marvin Philip California
Albert Toeaina Tennessee
Dion Byrum Ohio
Hubert Walker Central Missouri State
Brandon Johnson Louisville
Ingle Martin Furman
Dan Stevenson Notre Dame
David Kirtman USC
Jeromey Clary Kansas State
Chijioke Onyenegecha Oklahoma
Michael Toudouze TCU
Kedric Golston Georgia
Ryan Plackemeier Wake Forest
Terna Nande Miami-Oh
Chris Harrell Penn State
Joshua Tinch Louisville
Josh Lay Pittsburgh
Stephen Tulloch North Carolina State
Darrell Hackney UAB
Ben Obomanu Auburn
Darrell Hunter Miami-Oh
Travis Williams Auburn
Will Montgomery Virginia Tech
Reggie McNeal Texas A&M
Troy Reddick Auburn
Willie Colon Hofstra
Chris Taylor Indiana
Charlie Peprah Alabama
Bruce Gradkowski Toledo
Adam Stenavich Michigan
Gerald Riggs Jr. Tennessee
Gilbert Harris Arizona
Greg Lee Pittsburgh
Terrence Whitehead Oregon
Garret Mills Tulsa
McKinley Boykin Mississippi
Jamar Williams Arizona State
Jahri Evans Bloomsburg State
Jason Hall Tennessee
Brad Butler Virginia
D.J. Shockley Georgia
Calvin Lowry Penn State
Tony Tella Miami-Fl
Justin Wyatt USC
Damarius Bilbo Georgia Tech
Quadtrine Hill Miami-Fl
Mike Degory Florida
Terrence Pennington New Mexico
Kai Parham Virginia
Brett Basanez Northwestern
Tommy Jackson Auburn
Henry Anderson Oregon State
Matt Bernstein Wisconsin
Wendell Mathis Fresno State
T.J. Williams North Carolina State
Dennis Roland Georgia
Will Allen Texas
Moe Thompson x-South Carolina
Jarrad Page UCLA
Anthony Mix Auburn
Tim Dobbins Iowa State
Nick Reid Kansas
Cory Rodgers TCU
Steve Weatherford Illinois
Mark Setterstrom Minnesota
Jahmile Addae West Virginia
Melvin Oliver LSU
Naufahu Tahi BYU
Alton McCann West Virginia
Donovan Raiola Wisconsin
Gerrick McPhearson Maryland
Cedric Humes Virginia Tech
Charlie Johnson Oklahoma State
Cameron Vaughn LSU
J.D. Runnels Oklahoma
Tim Massaquoi Michigan
Devin Aromashodu Auburn
Charles Bennett Clemson
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"If the Giants stayed at No. 25 they would have picked Kiwanuka anyway."
Didn't see that one coming.
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http://giants.scout.com/2/525842.html
Giants Busy on Draft Day
By: Paul Schwartz
Giants Insider
Date: Apr 29, 2006
Move down and get the guy you targeted. Move up and land your man. It was unconventional and in some ways a bit baffling, but the Giants yesterday believe they manipulated the NFL Draft to suit their needs.
In the first round, the Giants nearly traded completely out of the round, dropping from No. 25 to the 32nd overall pick to shockingly select Mathias Kiwanuka, a pass-rushing defensive end from Boston College. That might sound odd, considering the Giants already have two of the NFL's supreme pass-rushing defensive ends in Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora.
Then, a team that eschewed two more highly-touted receivers went against its tendency of preferring towering targets to trade up in the second round to nab tiny speed demon Sinorice Moss of Miami.
Of the myriad of players the Giants could have taken, no one anticipated them scooping up a defensive end. "It's my philosophy and shared by people in this organization you never, ever have enough pass rushers,'' GM Ernie Accorsi said. "They are like home run hitters and pitchers. You just never have enough of them.''
The Giants sure have plenty of them. Strahan and Umenyiora are Pro Bowlers and getting to the quarterback is also the strength of second-year Justin Tuck. Plus, the Giants just signed LaVar Arrington, one of the most gifted pass-rushing linebackers in captivity. Where Kiwanuka fits in may be a mystery but coach Tom Coughlin said "Scheme-wise we can arrange that,'' and Accorsi added "Suffice it to say we wouldn't have picked him if we didn't feel he would be on the field.''
It was quite an unpredictable afternoon for the Giants. In the second round, they swapped second-round picks with the Colts (moving up from No. 56 to No. 44) to take Moss, younger brother of Santana Moss, a played Accorsi coveted five years ago. The Giants also gave their third-round pick (87th overall) to the Colts.
Moss was the Giants top-rated receiver in the entire draft.
"We do have big receivers,'' Accorsi said. "We needed that type of receiver. He is not a possession guy. Speed kills.''
Owning the 25th overall pick, the Giants opted to trade with the Steelers, acquiring the 32nd overall pick - the very last selection in the first round. The Steelers moved up to take Ohio State receiver Santonio Holmes. In return, the Giants acquired two draft picks from Pittsburgh - a third-round pick (96th overall) and a fourth-round pick (129th overall). It was the fourth time in the last six years Accorsi orchestrated a trade in the first round. In all, the Giants began the day owning six picks and ended it owning seven.
Trading down seven spots was only a minor risk in the eyes of the Giants. There were seven players remaining on the board "we could have lived with'' according to Accorsi and five players "we would have been happy with.'' Three of the five were still there at No. 32 and Kiwanuka was the highest-rated of the five.
After No. 25 and before No. 32, the Giants would have been happy with defensive tackle John McCargo (who went to the Bills at No. 26) and cornerback Kelly Jennings (who went at No. 31 to the Seahawks).
If the Giants stayed at No. 25 they would have picked Kiwanuka anyway.
Moss is only 5-8 and 185 pounds but he's been clocked at 4.39. He figures to fit in immediately as a slot receiver and jet-quick compliment to Plaxico Burress and Amani Toomer. Moss was not very productive at Miami operating with a far weaker passing attach than his brother Santana enjoyed.
"I don't want to put that on him, but if he's as good as his brother that would be great,'' said Accorsi, who added the Giants would have taken Moss in the first round if other options weren't available.
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gateb is not suggesting that people aren't entitled to opinions. He's suggesting -- and I agree with him wholeheartedly -- that people who don't follow the draft closely yet invariably hate who the Giants pick are being silly.
Fair enough...but for the people who do follow the draft and college football, like myself, can certainly vent. Kiwi, to me, certainly was a bit of a headscratcher. I like the rest of the picks, but sometimes, I just can't stand reading afterwards the same old lines from Accorsie and Coughlin about how highly rated Kiwi was, and that they were set to take him at #25 and so on and so forth.
Bottom line, didn't like the first pick, but I can't complain about the other 2.
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The faith, or lack of faith, put into EA right now by you guys is pathetic.
Gateb, everyone is allowed their opinion. People are allowed to disagree with a pick.
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i like it..... Maybe we can get jimmy williams or McCargo
Still available...
Winston Justice
Jimmy Williams
Daniell Bullocks
Richard Marchall
Sinorice Moss
Nick Mangold
Demeco Ryans
Not a bad list.
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Now, we got find out what the Bills gave up. Remember, if we traded down to the Bills for a 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick, they would would have been much better picks.
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we just completely robbed the Steelers, too, bravo.
Not really...it's a fair deal, but we didn't rob them. They're still at the end of the 3rd and 4th rounds.
Giants 4th Round Pick (124) - Barry Cofield, DT, Northwestern
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I was really pulling for LeKevin Smith, and I'm not quite sure why he's gone yet, unles it's off-the field issues. He's got a much different playing style than Cofield, really quick and disruptive off the snap.