So Long to Another Champion

[mickeef2]

Looks like the end of the line for Mike Timlin. Thanks for all the huge outs.

One of my favorite Timlin moments:

 

[LorfTVP]

 

Mike Timlin's years with Boston were a mixed bag but he had a solid 3.76 ERA in 409 innings with the Red Sox and a 3.57 playoff ERA. Good man. It's a shame to see ghim go but he was sort of a torturous pitcher to have in the bullpen this year. Time for a move back to the NL. If there was a Middle Relief Hall of Fame, you'd be in the pantheon, Mike Timlin.

[mickeef2]

His time was definitely up, no doubt. But over the span of '03-'08, we probably didn't have a more reliable arm in the bullpen than his.

[LorfTVP]

His time was definitely up, no doubt. But over the span of '03-'08, we probably didn't have a more reliable arm in the bullpen than his.

 

Haha, well, maybe '03-'07. There's a reason we buried him in middle relief this year.

 

What do you think about Masterson, rotation or bullpen? Honestly, I like him in the bullpen for now, and I feel like his presence defines everyone else's roles a lot more clearly. Delcarmen, though he can still be better, has settled nicely into a good pitcher. So, Papelbon, Okajima, Masterson, Delcarmen...that's a great way to end a game. We'll need a fifth starter/bullpen Tavarez type though.

[mickeef2]

Haha, well, maybe '03-'07. There's a reason we buried him in middle relief this year.

 

Again, though, I'm talking about the entire span of time. Obviously this year he was garbage.

 

What do you think about Masterson, rotation or bullpen? Honestly, I like him in the bullpen for now, and I feel like his presence defines everyone else's roles a lot more clearly. Delcarmen, though he can still be better, has settled nicely into a good pitcher. So, Papelbon, Okajima, Masterson, Delcarmen...that's a great way to end a game. We'll need a fifth starter/bullpen Tavarez type though.

 

Tough call on Masterson. He was pretty good as a starter last year, and you don't want to stunt his growth in that regard by relegating him to the 'pen. But I'd rather go into next year with 5 solid Major League starters (so add a Lowe or someone else through free agency) and let the kids (Buchholz,Masterson, Bowden) continue to develop slowly. At this point, it's easier to find a 4th starter than a reliever of his caliber.

 

As for Delcarmen, unfortunately, I don't know if I share your enthusiasm. He just seems to be schizo- unhittable for a week, then he can't get anybody out. You would think he'd have it figured out by now. I'm still for keeping him around, but I don't know if he's ever gonna reach his full potential.

[LorfTVP]

Again, though, I'm talking about the entire span of time. Obviously this year he was garbage.

 

 

 

Tough call on Masterson. He was pretty good as a starter last year, and you don't want to stunt his growth in that regard by relegating him to the 'pen. But I'd rather go into next year with 5 solid Major League starters (so add a Lowe or someone else through free agency) and let the kids (Buchholz,Masterson, Bowden) continue to develop slowly. At this point, it's easier to find a 4th starter than a reliever of his caliber.

 

As for Delcarmen, unfortunately, I don't know if I share your enthusiasm. He just seems to be schizo- unhittable for a week, then he can't get anybody out. You would think he'd have it figured out by now. I'm still for keeping him around, but I don't know if he's ever gonna reach his full potential.

 

True, true. I dunno though, 74 innings of a 3.27 ERA, a 1.12 WHIP, and a .205 BAA is pretty damn solid. Thing is, it's knowing when to trust him in big situations. He's not really a frying pan sort of guy. He really picked it up when Masterson joined the bullpen at the end of the year though. I think he just needs a defined role and he's fine for the 6th and 7th. This was only his third full season and it's damn impressive, all things considered.

 

An old drug dealer I know played high school baseball with Manny Delcarmen.