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I like Bentley, it would certainly suck if he went to the Beagles.

Worst thread ever

OK I'm done with that. Feel free to add more pics of the newest Giant

Four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Sam Madison talked with host Rich Eisen via Dolphins cam on NFL Total Access to talk about Adewale Ogunleye's holdout, Miami's quarterback competition and Madison's charity event. NFL Total Access airs Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. ET/PT (aired June 15, 2004). NFL Network NFL Network Analysis, opinions, features and more! Download Super Bowl XXXIX radio broadcasts and highlights to your MP3 player! Field Pass Listen LIVE to NFL games, plus watch video news and features of your favorite team. Rich Eisen: Who better to get the pulse of all things Fish than the guy who is third all-time on the list of interceptions for Dolphins' history? That would be Sam Madison on Dolphins cam. How you doing, Sam? Sam Madison: Hey, Rich. I'm doing really good, and I must say that you look extremely well today. Eisen: Thanks, just for you Sam, thank you. And I must say that you look pretty fresh for a guy who just had two picks in practice. We heard about that today! Madison: Well, thank you, things are going well down here for me. The defensive line is doing extremely well and getting some pressure in on there, and I've just been at the right place at the right time, like I've been for the last seven or eight years. Hopefully it will roll over into the new season. I need a couple new picks. Eisen: And you've had the third-most interceptions for the past six seasons, Sam. What makes a good cornerback in terms of getting a pick? Is it luck or instinct, or both? Madison: Pretty much a little bit of both. You know, some guys say we are lucky, but I go off instincts, and I think that's why I'm one of those guys who, like you said, have had the most picks over the last couple years. Definitely, having guys like Jason Taylor, Adewale (Ogunleye), Junior (Seau) and Zach (Thomas) putting pressure on the quarterbacks, it allows me to do my job and makes my job a little easier. Eisen: Let's talk about Adewale right now. What is the latest with this guy, Sam? Madison: I really can't tell you right now. Hopefully he will do the right thing. He has had two excellent seasons. He is one of those guys we depend -- myself and Patrick Surtain -- to get pressure on the quarterback, which he has done, and it allows our job to be a lot easier. But I definitely hope both sides can come in to an agreement, because not only is he a great player, but he is a great friend of mine, so I hope both sides can work it out. Eisen: We recently spoke to Junior Seau on Dolphins cam last month, and he was either oblivious to it or didn't want to talk about it. But are you guys talking about this sort of stuff? Or are you just going about your business? Madison: No. You know, you have fun with it and talk about it in the locker room, but it's one of those things that most guys go through. You know, myself, I went through it when I was coming up, and Zach and Jason and Junior's been through it, and Patrick Surtain, and it's gonna be a lot of other players that will go through the same thing. But it all falls to him and his agent to get things done -- and to the Dolphins organization. And I think it's gonna work out well, and hopefully they get him in here to camp and get him going. Eisen: What advice would you give him, as someone who has gone through it? Madison: Come to camp. (Laughs) Eisen: Would you have taken that advice when you were going through it? Madison: Come to camp. (Laughs) Eisen: (Laughs) Well, very good. Well, come camp, who is going to be quarterback? We're putting you on the hot seat, and there seems to be several hot spots -- so to speak --with the Dolphins. Who is gonna be the QB? Madison: I'm gonna say it like this: Come to camp, Wally. ( Laughs) I don't know. That is a very touchy subject here in South Florida. Those two guys are really competing, and now that Sage Rosenfels has put in his bid as well, I think it's gonna be very tough in training camp and come the preseason to have all three of those guys competing. But I really can't say because all of them are getting work in and doing a good job and -- besides today with me picking off a couple passes -- but they are doing a great job and the best man will win. And I think it's great for our team for every position to have competition, to have battles, and that's just one of those positions that have those battles. Some of the slots are locked in; Ricky Williams has his slot locked in. Eisen: It's interesting. You say that, Sam, because this is a great way to show fans the way that competition works in camp, because if you get a couple picks, wouldn't you say that might affect, in a way, the quarterback race going on right now? How do you go about your business at camp? Madison: Well, you kinda put that aside. Most people say that corners have to have amnesia, and I think that quarterbacks also have to have that. You know, after a sack or getting pounded or throwing an interception for a touchdown, then coming right back out and making a drive. With those guys throwing an interception, they have to come out and get that out of their brain and work hard. But this defense, we have 10 out of 11 starters coming back, and we have guys that have been together for a while, and we know the ups and downs of each other's games and we have a pretty good defense. And for those guys to have a new system and have new play calling, it's pretty tough for them to come out when we have been playing together for the last four, five and six years. We know what we're doing, and it's kinda unfair for them to be going against us because for the last six or seven years we have had one of the top five defenses in the league. Eisen: So what's been going on this offseason, Sam? Would you call it normal for the Dolphins? Madison: Yes, it's definitely normal, and for the past few years the defense has pretty much carried this team, and we've made some additions to our offense. David Boston is looking great, being that some people have said that he is not doing what he is supposed to be doing early on, but the guy is doing what we have been asking him to do. He is just a class act. He is just a quiet person; once he gets out on the field, in the locker room, or in the weight room, he just goes out and does what he has to do, and I think that he will be a great pickup for us if he can have that breakout season like he did in Arizona a couple years back. So I'm looking for big things from him. I talk to him all the time every day. The only thing he is having problems adjusting to is the weather down here. Pretty much everybody has to do that. Eisen: Let's talk about your charity event that you are having down there: "Cuts for a Cause." Tell us about that, Sam. Madison: Well, it's something fun that I wanted to do for fun. A lot of guys have golf tournaments, other guys have fishing tournaments or bowling tournaments, and I wanted to do something different. So I was trying to get old-school people like Joe Rose in here to get a haircut before he goes on TV looking a mess, but it was fun and it was a great turnout even though we had a little rain. We had live music, some hors d'oeuvres, bottled water and juice as my drinks, but it was fun and a lot of guys turned out, and I think it's something that is going to be very popular in years to come. Sam Madison is begging Adewale Ogunleye to settle his differences with the Dolphins. Eisen: So people just come and get their hair cut? That's basically the gist of it? Madison: Yeah, pretty much. It was held in Hollywood, Florida. You know, the mayor and a lot of other bigwigs were there. It was basically like a meet-and-greet and it was basically trying to get people back into the Hollywood community, and it turned out great and it was fun, and we raised some money for the kids. Eisen: I love it. Bigwigs, and it's called "Cuts For a Cause," and it's put on by a guy with no hair. I love it. Madison: Pretty much trying to get you guys to look decent, trying to get you guys to come onto my level. I see a little peak in the front. (Laughs) Eisen: I'm close. (Laughs) I'm close. It won't take much, and next time I'll be there. Madison: Hey man, don't hang on, just let it go. (Laughs) Guys with bald heads like myself and Jason Taylor with the bald heads, we just let it go. Eisen: Hey, if I'm guaranteed to look as good as you and Jason Taylor if I went and let it go. Thanks for joining us, Sam. Madison: Hey, thanks for having me, Rich. Eisen: Sure thing. Sam Madison, the first-ever cornerback selected for the Pro Bowl from the Miami Dolphins, joining us on Dolphins cam.

MADISON OWNS THE JETS

Things we need: 1 FS, 1 OLB, 1 DT and 1 CB

Messiah, did you delete my thread?

Damn, the second paragraph is deceiving!

Then what the hell is with that article?

I agree but seeing as how he is the leader of the O-Line and he was an alternate for the Pro Bowl, I don't think we will let him go.

Even with the cap savings? If we release Petitgout, we'd be saving the most money. Why have a T with a bad back (even though he has played in either 15 or 16 games) when you can save a boatload of money and get a younger, more disciplined T? I'm not bashing Luke but money is of the essence. The most vital thing in the world is money

A contract extension has been discussed

They will be on the Giants for the next 2 years. Likely at their positions

Don't know when the article was written but it was written before the new CBA. Why don't we save as much money? I can deal with the false starts and the holding calls, Petitgout, when he's on the field and when he's not committing penalties is pretty good. But he has a bad back and an expendable contract. If we save alot of money from cutting Petitgout, then why not? More room couldn't hurt

Which is why I listed those names. And Whitfield is an UFA, he hasn't decided if he's gonna retire or not.

In the quest for $$$, anything is possible. Diehl, Snee, McKenzie and pretty much O Hara are locked in for at least 2 years. Petitgout, with his fat contract and bad back is not a lock Wouldn't have a problem with your second paragraph

Brad Hopkins, Mike Williams, Rex Tucker, Kevin Shaffer, Jon Runyan (I believe), Damion McIntosh, Stockar McDougle, Jason Fabini and Anthony Clement. And this year's draft class is deep in T like D'Brickashaw, Winston Justice, Eric Winston, Marcus McNeill and Jonathan Scott.

He can be moved to LT but fuck it, then we get a new LT.

Team Report: Inside Slant The biggest fish in the Help Your Salary Cap Sweepstakes is veteran offensive left tackle Luke Petitgout, who will earn almost $5 million in base salary this season -- more so than the base salary of any other players. That includes quarterback Eli Manning, running back Tiki Barber, defensive end Michael Strahan and wide receiver Plaxico Burress. Losing Petitgout now would make money available, and it must be said that he didn't exactly have a magnificent season in 2005 -- or in 2003 or 2004, for that matter. Another veteran almost certain to go is cornerback Will Allen, like Petitgout a one-time first round selection whose performance has dropped in the two critical areas of interceptions (he had none last season) and tight man-to-man coverage. You were saying? And McKenzie could very well be moved to LT. And if the rookie has qualifications and if he's a first rounder, why not? Happens all the time, T is one of those positions where the rookie can step right in from day 1 (first rounder in this case, not an Street FA like Ian Allen)

Money, you might need to create a new mock offseason plan with the new salary cap! I'm a firm supporter of the BPA strategy but sometimes you have to use the best player in a certain position. Now, I think most of us agree that Puke Petitgout (I love that name) will be cut based on his salary and the cap savings. That would leave a hole at LT. We could A) move McKenzie to LT (which had been predicted last offseason) and Diehl to RT (he has experience there) and move Seubert to the starting LG role. That could work But we cannot have Diehl moving positions every year. Let him remain at LG Now, we cut Puke and sign an OLB and CB. IMO, the OLB problem is resolved (Emmons won't get cut because Green did get cut and the successor to Emmons to Torbor) and CB is still an issue but a slighter one now. Peterson will never be the same player again as Paul Schwartz said and I predict that he will get cut. That leaves Madison as the only lock to start at CB. Now we have Webster who could be a potential starter and can compete this year for the #2 CB slot. But he's no sure thing so we draft a CB (my boy Antonio Cromartie).

From that list, I really like Norwood, Dvorcek and Mike Bell.

We're all hoping we get a Nathan Vasher or a Tom Brady in the late rounds but that's not the reality of it. Beyond the first and second round, you're looking at BPA, above average players, ST and projects.

Surprises come in all packages but no one really expects a 3rd rounder to make an immediate impact. Like in the third round, I have the Giants drafting Roger McIntosh or AJ Nicholson, I don't expect them to make an impact once they step foot on the field. They need work.