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The words "Eli" and "good pass" are never in the same sentence, although one could say "Eli couldn't throw a good pass, if his live depended on it".

So now you disagree with each other. Is there a problem in fag camp?

Hold on! Go back and read the title to this thread. It's asking why so many are suggesting the Giants will go with a WR in the first round. I'm addressing that question. I'm not bringing Manning into this thread because it isn't what the thread is supposed to be about. If you want to get into an Eli bashing thread, go for it. I'm sure we'll all have a few things to say. In the meantime, this thread has no place for discussion about Helicopter. Besides, the Giants, even if they had the number one pick overall, would not be drafting a QB. So why bother? Short of a career ending injury or a complete failure on his part, Manning is here to stay. So, back on topic, let's get him a legit WR so the Giants can have a record setting tandem along the lines of Peyton and Marvin, Montana and Rice, . . .McNabb and Owens. . .hehehe

If my eyes don't deceive me I think we have our first Eli compliment from any of you....

You do how ever bash Eli for all the Giants misfortunes but now are saying he needs a WR and it is this glaring hole that will make the team much improved. Flip/flop. On Giants.com we needed to replace Eli with anyone to get better.

(gulp) I hate to say this because it going to open a whole can of garbage. but you can't fault the WR or TE for the 3 and outs problems. I actually blame Eli and the O-line for this.

 

C'mon, how many times was Shockey and Burress was WIDE open and Eli couldn't hit them? How many times was the O 3 and 2, and then one of the O-linemen got hit with a false start. believe me, I think the WR are the last people to blame for this.

Oh shit. Here we go....

Speaking for myself, I don't start too many threads, but I respond to them. That said, if I am repeating my belief, say, that Burress is a cancer on the team, it's only in response to someone else claiming he is the greatest thing since canned beer. So the repetitive nature of my replies is in response to the repetitive nature of the originating posts.

That said, I think we have a good thing here and I will do my part to contribute to its success.

Please help us understand. Mix it up ?? What do you want a song and dance routine ?? We see flaws in the product and we offer solutions to discuss.

You know exactly what I am talking about.

Latest mock draft from FOXSports.com

 

Don't these people know that we have other glaring needs that have to be addressed before WR? I really hate self-proclaimed "experts"...and not only that, why IF we WERE going to draft a WR, why wouldn't it be Sinorice Moss? These guys are silly....

They get paid to write. Correct or not they still get paid.

Wow! Is the Cold War thawing? Or am I about to be sucker punched?

Virtually no...but if I ever meet you....

A MB feud is really stupid. You guys can go on and on trying to piss Giants fans off all you want just now without me involved. I really don't think you believe half the trash you spew. Your only goal is to grab as much attention as you can and piss people off. With that in mind a sensible Giants fan can never win against you.

If you ever refer to me as what you did on the other board again, though there will be hell to pay.

I have a whole network going so that idea won't work. I'll just move over to a different monitor. Your not going to get rid of the Fab Four that easily.

I have no issues with any of you guys...yes, even that flamer Carbo. I just wish you'd mix it up a bit. It's really getting old.

I'm bringing a brick into my den to watch the draft then.

Watch the draft online. That way you can throw your brick thru your PC.

...and the discussions and /or posts about them continue. This time it's posts about ignoring them.

sam adams has played in a 4/3 system

 

See Ravens, Baltimore 2000

Why does that team and year seem so familiar?

"I'm sticking by my friend and I'll support him and his family as he gets help battling his problem," Moss said.

We'll see.

too words you should take from that post...

 

antagonize and disturbing...

 

two words in which you and your clan have brought new meaning too...

New meaning - Not very good at either of them.

Never mind- I just saw it in another thread...

Anyone know what channel it will be on Cablevision in NJ?

Snitch

What was you did to be snitched on anyway? I mean, for someone to snitch there must have been a wrong - no? What did you do? Additionally it seems you are angry for being snitched on which gives more possibility to the notion that you did something wrong. What was it?

That should be "you're", not your.

What was you did to be snitched on anyway? I mean, for someone to snitch there must have been a wrong - no? What did you do? Additionally, it seems you are angry for being snitched on which gives more possibility to the notion that you did something wrong. What was it?

Only thing you said that I agree with: "How about the Giants have the worst secondary in the league?"

Another serious post tainted by vermin spit.

Tim Lewis will be under the microscope this season.

Snitch

Old

No. That would be the dolt who has chosen to relyoneli.

:explode:

Either not much happens in his life or his webmaster sucks. No news since 2005 and it's about an injury.

I wonder then if I will get this channel living in NEPA. I doubt it. I already have Comcast-Philadelphia and why would I get Comcast-NY then. When there is local programming, Comcast-Phl goes to Foxsports programming. I also have Foxsports-Pittsburgh which plays the same exact programming. MSG does the same once in awhile by playing foxsports programming. I do get YES. I would like to get SNY. A few years ago Adelphia Communications were actually going to get rid of MSG and replace it with YES. Had a lot of subscribers complaining.

Satellite TV may be in your future if you desire this channel.

http://www.nj.com/printer/printer.ssf?/bas...7360.xml&coll=1

More than the Mets

Sportsnet New York debuts tomorrow with hopes of being television's WFAN

Wednesday, March 15, 2006

BY MATTHEW FUTTERMAN

Star-Ledger Staff

In a business where buzz counts almost as much as the bottom line, Jon Litner won't be using a traditional yardstick to measure the success of the area's latest regional sports network.

Litner, chief executive of Sportsnet New York, better known as the new Mets channel, wants to overhear someone on his 6 a.m. train from Connecticut to Grand Central Station telling a buddy about something he saw on the channel's "Sportsnite" highlight show the night before.

He wants to see sports fans peer into SNY's street-level studios on 51st Street and Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan. He wants to turn on his car radio and hear that his team of reporters has broken a major story.

In other words, he wants SNY to be more than just a billboard for the baseball team that owns it. He wants the channel to make a difference and alter the sports media landscape in the nation's top market.

"Sports is one of New York's cultural institutions, and it's not dissimilar to Broadway," Litner said earlier this month in anticipation of tomorrow's SNY launch date. "We've got an opportunity here to satisfy the appetite people have here for deep, rich local sports coverage and information."

As Litner spoke, there was a palpable sense that the curtain is about to rise. A handful of technicians busily reran cables and relaid the studio's lighted logo on the set's carpet. An anchor would soon show up for a rehearsal of "Jets Nation," a weekly magazine show.

"I came here because we're going to be different," said Tom Healy, a director for SNY who had worked for Fox News. "We're not concentrating on one team. We're going to be the most comprehensive place for fans to get their news."

For the moment, forgive Litner and his staff for neglecting to mention the main purpose of SNY: Making Mets owners Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz a lot wealthier by giving them the same thing George Steinbrenner has with the YES network. Launched four years ago this month, YES is now valued at more than $1 billion, produces annual profits of more than $100 million, and ensures the Yankees' owner of always having enough cash to go after the sexiest free agents on the market.

That's the easy part. With every major cable company in the region expected to pay a combined $170 million a year to put SNY on basic cable, Wilpon and Katz are well on their way to becoming media moguls. In addition, they are likely to see a substantial increase in the amount of money they get for selling the broadcast rights for Mets games; Fox Sports New York had been paying them about $45 million a year.

"There is no reason, given the way the business works, why SNY shouldn't be able to take in 90 or 95 percent of the money YES does," said Leo Hindery, who created YES for Steinbrenner and his partners.

But the bigger issue for SNY, which Katz and Wilpon co-own with Comcast and Time Warner, will be to convince local fans they really do need a fourth regional sports network; that MSG, YES and FSNY (not to mention ESPN) don't already give them everything they need; that the next time the cable bill goes up a couple of bucks, it will be for an invaluable source for constant chatter about local sports -- the television equivalent of radio's WFAN.

"The question is, am I going to watch Sportsnet instead of ESPN's "SportsCenter"? Do I just want to see the local slant?" said Rick Gentile, who teaches about sports media at Seton Hall's Stillman School of Business. "Sports fans want all sports, not just local coverage, and it is very hard to beat SportsCenter at the game they invented."

For now, Litner, who left his post as chief operating officer of the National Hockey League to create SNY, is less focused on ESPN than on his main local competition at MSG and YES.

YES offers all Yankees all the time. There are replays of old Yankees games, "Yankeeography" documentaries, Yankees broadcaster Michael Kay interviewing players, Yankees fans playing poker against Red Sox fans, and so on.

MSG, meanwhile, focuses mostly on its namesake arena, Madison Square Garden -- except perhaps when the news involves unsavory details about the management of the teams that play there. MSG famously gave little mention earlier this season when a former top Knicks executive accused Knicks general manager Isiah Thomas of sexual harassment.

As for FSNY, national programming dominates when it is not showing local games.

By contrast, the business plan that Litner persuaded Wilpon, Katz, Comcast and Time Warner to buy into calls for SNY to be everything the area's other regional sports networks are not -- the ultimate source of all local sports news.

"This is a model that has worked at our stations in Chicago, Baltimore and Philadelphia," said Jack Williams, president of Comcast's Sportsnet stations.

Litner has hired nine anchors and attached a reporter to every major New York-area professional team. In a media world increasingly bent on "narrowcasting" to niche audiences, Litner has decided to go broad.

"Sportsnite," the station's highlight show, will air at 10 a.m., 6 p.m. and 1 a.m. from its street-level studio in Midtown, which just happens to be in a Time Warner-controlled building. Needless to say, Sportsnet got a good deal on the rent.

Steve Greenberg, an investment banker with Allen & Co. in New York who advised Wilpon on the media venture, said the Mets' partners helped provide the three main ingredients for a new regional sports network: compelling programming, top-flight management and distribution.

"A partnership arrangement -- and Time Warner and Comcast -- brings a certain amount of legitimacy from day one," Greenberg said.

Since Time Warner and Comcast control about 50 percent of the region's cable households, SNY was able to avoid a nasty fight over getting access to those company's cable systems.

In addition, since those companies have deals to carry channels owned by Cablevision, the region's dominant cable provider, Litner has been able to move quickly toward a deal to gain access to Cablevision's system, something that took YES 16 months. SNY executives expect the Cablevision deal to be complete by tomorrow. They expect a deal with DirecTV to be done by the beginning of the regular season on April 3.

One drawback of this sports television trend is that smaller cable distributors, such as Patriot Media in central New Jersey, often claim they cannot afford the more expensive sports channels, driving away some of their subscribers to satellite service.

The SNY plan is not without risks. While devout Mets fans will be there to watch the team's games, will anyone tune in for other programming? Because SNY will not have a pro team's games to carry during the winter, can its live schedule make do with college sports from October through March?

Finally, with so many other options for sports news, can the annual investment of several million dollars in SNY's news-gathering operation actually pay off?

Ultimately, industry experts say, the channel's success probably will rise and fall with the Mets. If the Mets are good, fans will watch, allowing SNY to promote its news shows and other programs to a captive audience before and after games.

The alternative, as Gentile says, is fairly obvious.

"If the Mets are dreadful," he warned, "come July, everyone is going to stop watching."

So says the Snitch

Call me what you want but you know I'm right.

You can complain about some thing you liked, I mean for god sakes you gargled

Unless you find it fun trading posts with this mud puddle why are you wasting your time? This guy and the intellect he brings are with out value.