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You only need review what happened over at giants.kiddie.com after my departure, and the others you choose to besmirch. That board is all but a graveyard now, populated by know nothing dolts, homers, and dunces.

Let's see. C'mon, waddya say? Leave for 30 days and see how much of a graveyard this place becomes.

Your disputing facts that are indisputable. Most other posters aren't as sensitive and delicate as you, and have not opted to run out the door, whining and snitching, when faced with a differing opinion. Stop speaking for others.

Put your money where your mouth is. Leave for 30 days and see what happens.

Indeed, Snitch.

We both know who the real snitch is,Carbo. You are guilty as charged. Don't pretend to not know what I am referring to either. The jig is up.

i tend to disagree...before the FAB 4's arrival this section remained baron...the only things in here were stalks of tumbleweed blowing around and about 12 different moderators...

 

since our arrival, messageboard attendance has gone up as has membership role...people want to tune in and hear what is to be said...they come here to learn

 

if posters feel intimidated to post on an internet message forum bc of the strong exsistance of an established, well versed group, then i feel very sad for the state of America...

No one is intimidated so get over yourself. Most of those who tradse posts with you and your butt sniffers just like to point out what a fucking morons you are.

Let's put this to the test. You and your aliases leave for 30 days and we'll see how deserted this place gets. Deal? You can check by being a guest.

You and I both know that in your dark, secretive world, FB doesn't stand for football. . .does it?

I'm not following you.

Also, I notice that you have not denied my statement. So it is written so it is fact.

Just think: If these 'four' wasn't posting here....this Giants talk forum would be empty.

I disagree. There would be more people here posting not empty as you say. These people who refuse to be reasoned with cause intelligent posters to say fuck it and leave. This group is the reason this section isn't more populated.

Ah, yes. When presented with logic and facts, the personal attacks fly. The last resort of the truly ignorant.

Here's another one...You are ignorant about FB and you know it.

Where do you come up with this stuff? You're worth the price of admission!

No one ever says you are funny so you do it yourself. That's classy.

Somebody call the whaaaambulance. The Snitch is whining again.

Who's the real snitch here Carbo? Me thinks it's you and you know what I am referring to.

its always the ones who are not afraid to take risks that go down in history as great invoators of there time...the FAB 4's way of thinking...perhaps there is a way in adding Brett Farve in the package and we would be killing two birds with one stone...

 

first bird...we will have a competitve WR whos potential has yet to be seen and is untapped...and he is young

 

second bird....we will have an ULTRA competitive future HOF QB at the helm that would not quiver at the thought of taking the reigns from Eli's hands if need be, or on his own discretion

 

its time to prepare mission statements to several parties of authority...

You're just jealous that they've become more popular than those other four guys from Liverpool.

...at you not with you.

You wouldn't trade Matsui??

In a second but would you trade Soriano straight up for Matsui? I didn't think so.

Any deal that would send Soriano to the Mets would have to include Milladge. Too bad we couldn't work that trade out last year.

The Rangers wanted more than the Mets were willing to give. This article hints that the asking price this year would be much less. I would trade Diaz and cash for him but no prospects at all.

Lasting Milliadge Would have to be in the deal

If you were the Nats?

What do you think?

Trade for Soriano

Soriano is offensive -- just why Mets need him

Wednesday, March 22, 2006

Alfonso Soriano is acting stupid, immature, selfish and unprofessional.

And the Mets should trade for him.

Soriano's shocking refusal to take the field for the Washington Nationals on Monday night -- in protest of the team's orders to move from second base to left field -- creates an opportunity for the Mets. Last July, when the Texas Rangers were trying to deal Soriano, they kept asking the Mets for too much in return. Now, Washington should be willing to give him away.

And if that's the case, the Mets should take him.

To focus on the handful of things there are to dislike about Soriano is to lose sight of all there is to like about him. Sure, he's going to make $10 million this year. But his salary got that high for a reason.

Soriano is, at the bottom line, a huge bat. He is a player who once drove in 102 runs as the Yankees' leadoff hitter. He is a low on-base percentage guy, yes. But he hits home runs. Steals bases, too.

Kaz Matsui has been a mystery in his two years as a Met, but we know for certain that he is not (a) a quick healer or (b) a good second baseman. The Mets can count on his return from his latest knee injury if they want to, believing their lineup is good enough whether he hits or not. Or they can go out and get a guy who'll give them 35 home runs, 30 stolen bases and 100 RBI.

They can throw Anderson Hernandez out there, hoping he'll develop into an All-Star, or they can get a guy who's already been an All-Star four times.

With the Nationals having miscalculated the strength of Soriano's aversion to the outfield, the price should be much lower than it was last July. If it's Victor Diaz, or even if (wildest-dreams time here) the Nats would take back Matsui and part of his contract, Mets GM Omar Minaya should jump at this one.

Now, Mets fans are inclined to fear the worst, and history has provided many good reasons for this. But every argument against bringing Soriano to Queens has holes:

His defense is bad, yes, but it's not as if he'd be replacing Bill Mazeroski here. The Mets' current options are Matsui, who stinks at the position when healthy, or Hernandez, who admitted last week that he's having trouble learning how to turn the double play. Soriano will cost them runs at second base, but he'll make up for it with his bat -- a lot better than either of those other two would.

The Mets' lineup appears to be their strength, but it's not without its question marks. Assuming a top five of Reyes, Beltran, Delgado, Wright, Floyd, in some order, there's a pretty fair dropoff after the No. 5 spot. Adding Soriano to the mix makes the lineup the best in the league. And the Mets need only look across town to the Bronx for their example.

The Yankees are a 95-to-100-victory-per-year machine in spite of shaky pitching and utterly horrendous defense. How do they do it? They have an All-Star-caliber offensive player at every position. Not most positions. Every position.

Contrary to what's happening in Washington right now, Soriano is no malcontent. He was a happy, likable, productive Yankee (remember, they only traded him because they were getting Alex Rodriguez back), and there's no reason to think that, if he were back in New York and playing second base, he wouldn't be happy. Also, everybody who has been to the Mets' clubhouse this spring has noticed the impact of Julio Franco, whose absolutely solar personality might be just what Soriano needs in his life.

It's $10 million, sure, but it's only money. The Mets, in the first year of their TV network and in a very winnable National League, are going for it. Soriano, as a free agent, would be off the books in 2007. And do you really think, if the Mets are in contention in July and need a starting pitcher, that Fred Wilpon will tell Minaya, "Sorry, O. We spent that money already on Soriano?" No chance.

Soriano is being silly, putting his reputation and his paycheck in jeopardy. He is worthy of no one's sympathy. If your boss called you in tomorrow and told you he was changing your job, you might be upset. You might not like it. You might not feel qualified for the position to which he's moving you. But you'd do it. Heck, you have bills. You'd have no choice.

But if the reason Soriano is pulling this stunt is so that he can get traded to a different team, the Mets should help him out.

Didn't he get into it with Bledsoe last year?

I think it was the FG kicker if I remember correctly.

He doesn't have TO's ego, he has an ego but nothing like TO. I don't think he destroys team like TO either, he can be an asset to us, I'm not niave enough to believe he'll be a role model and team player, but he won't sink the ship, he's a great reciever, he'll make the catches that get thrown his way and he'll go over the middle no matter who is waiting for him.

 

The day he was released I started a thread wanting him here, I never do that when players are released, i want Key, our offense would be unstoppable with Plax, Key and Toomer at WR.

I agree. You cannot compare this guy w/ TO's ego and idiocy or, unfortunately, his talent but I still think he will be an asset to the team with out a doubt.

Any chance he can convince EA to follow him off into the sunset? Tom Coughlin?? Tim Lewis???

Carbo? Lockhart? Floyd? Nosebleed?

I'd rather see Bud Selig hang 'em up. The worst thing Tagliabue has been is a hypocrite.

Redskins are getting better, the Cowboys are getting better while EA signs backup safeties with knee injuries - pitiful.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way to the Dallas bandwagon

He seemed to be well liked but no one seemed too upset. Interesting indeed.

I knew it. And I know many other things, also.

Reading this doesn't count.

Yes, your eyes are deceiving you. I don't know what I say that can be construed as a compliment. I just said that the thread isn't about Manning. It's about the weakness of the WR position on the Giants. If someone wants to get into an Eli Manning bashing party, that shouldn't be too hard to arrange.

Listen to Mr. Backtrack..... Check your quoted post in my post...the part in bold...it's in Nemesis' too and tell me that's not a compliment.

If anything Sigmund Freud would be happy.

Jacobs had a problem learning the playbook?

Is that why he only came in on GL situations? Why does this guy know this and no one else I know of know it?