Iceman_NYG

14 hours ago, Virginia Giant said:

Damn bro. Even soft r that doesn’t land right. 

I mean that more in the 'buddy' sense - no disrespect

19 minutes ago, BlueInCanada said:

We're giving Jones a year 6.

Why would Indy give up after two?

They will if he gets injured again is what i mean.....DJ has gone through 3 coaches, 3 OCs and shitty offensive line his entire career. I hope he has a good year so we can utilise it somehow considering the QB market.

On the flipside...not cool by NY fans booing Barkley when he attended the NBA game between the Knicks and the 76ers

Funny how when other guys get hurt they just 'get hurt' but with DJ its perilous! - if Richardson again has a season ending injury - Indy is definitely in the market. So are Pittsburgh if those 2 niggas dont pan out there. Dallas will NOT give Dak an extension if he pulls another Dak this season. Its a crapshoot - we just dont know.

11 hours ago, TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt said:

For sure.  Shurmur got a quick yank.  He could have gotten a second year.

As I said - i think the players just didnt connect with the guy...hence the quick yank

Judge never ever was Head Coach material - it overwhelmed him and in Shurmur's case - i think he lost the locker room and that was why he was let go.

Waller hanging around with his BS 'Im still thinking about it' is pissing me off. Just fucking walk away and make your Illuminati and Runyan are good additions on the OL - think thats why they didnt focus too much on the line in the draft 

3 hours ago, Herc said:

Yeah this looks like it was a pretty good draft

Yeah....no WTF moments atleast...

11 hours ago, mastershake said:

Thanks. I love the Nubin pick...very unsure about the Phillips pick. I trust and hope they see something in him that I don't which defies the stats because the pass coverage numbers (eg passer rating) against him are terrible.

I loved the TE pick - from everything i read - this guy was the the 2nd best behind Bowers.

15 hours ago, BlueInCanada said:

I mean owners/GMs dont have to tell players shit if they think it's helping the team.

Rodgers got no warning about Love, and I believe Favre had no idea about Rodgers.

Eli was never told about Jones.

They clearly had a high rank on Penix and in the most recent article I've read the GM said they looked at the Green Bay situation and valued adding a QB behind Kirk.

 

Rodgers sat for what? 2 years behind Favre? But he was young....Penix is already 23....this pick doesnt make any sense. Worse than our situation paying DJ 40 mill this year.....and he IS going to be the starter unless Lock lights it up the first couple weeks

15 hours ago, mastershake said:

Personally I want us to load up on DB's the next two rounds, but couldn't get upset with RB/OL

Good call!

7 hours ago, mastershake said:

I love the pick. Safety is/was a big need to address.

Me too....i loved the pick....best safety available at that time

7 hours ago, Sephiroth said:

Look at ALL the good players that went between our old #2 pick and the new one.

Brian Burns har better be fucking worth it.

He will be - just look at his film - kids damn good! Schoen knows what he is doing....in a coupe years this contract will look like chump change

11 hours ago, mastershake said:

This is all accurate, but also the context is one where if you're drafting a QB in rounds 1-2, you're more likely to be given a chance to start, given the team invested premium assets in your. Some guys rounds 3-7 rarely if ever get a chance to start, and the little they get might be backup work at best. For instance, the guys drafted in the top 12 this year are all going to be given a shot to start most likely at least a couple dozen games, while those in rounds 3-7 are more likely to be considered backups.

I'd be interested to see it expressed not as a % drafted but as a % given a chance to start, say, >= 20 games. The current denominator is all drafted, but I'd like to see it as among those who were given a chance to start 20 or more games, or some similar threshold.

Especially considering some recent drafts have been real duffers for QB's in the first round. Look at 2021-2022. Lawrence is a mid range starter, the rest are most likely backups, or maybe bottom tier starter in Fields.

- Trevor Lawrence

- Zach Wilson

- Trey Lance

- Justin Fields

- Mac Jones

- Kenny Pickett

Daniel Jones has been better than all of the above....

20 minutes ago, GorillaNJ said:

 

And Odell did that in 12 games....pre injury Odell was truly special

1 hour ago, gmenroc said:

Marcellus Bennett...was a free agent signing, not a draft pick if I remember right

Ah yes...Martellus Bennett...yeah he wasnt a draft pick...but was good for a while

Who was that Black Unicorn guy - he was good albeit briefly for us

About as happy as I can be for Round 1 - got the guy I was hoping theyd get since I knew they were not going QB this year. Lock starts the year until Jones is healthy. And then Jones takes over. This is whats gonna happen this year.

2 hours ago, TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt said:

Belichek just broke down all of the QBs in the draft and delineated all of their flaws.  He said none of them and I quote are Eli Manning, Tom Brady or Patrick Mahommes...A real coach that knows QBs.

Dude knows what hes talking about....

15 hours ago, Mr. P said:

I think everyone we draft is going to be awesome. It’s more fun that way. 

I knew from Day 1 we fucked up with Eli Apple....it was confirmed the moment his mom started yapping on his behalf

10 hours ago, Mr. P said:

 

Id take pre injuries Odell over pre injuries Nicks.  

Hell Id take pre-injuries Odell over anyone....

11 hours ago, Sephiroth said:

 A Letter to NFL GMs.

I'm starting to really like this kid.

Wow - I hope we get Denver etc to trade for our spot and we can trade down and get this kid. Or pray and hope is there at No.47. At any rate - no matter how good the kid might be, the risk is too much at No.6

4 hours ago, BronxRik said:

There's just so much talent across the board this year I don't think trading away picks, future picks, is a good idea. Use them now, make a trade, maybe 2 for some more, and grab some decent players. They don't have to be superstars but it just seems like there are many guys out there who could be here for years, this year. 

The pundits are going batshit crazy over this year's QB class, but I just don't see 4 HOF QB's in this class. I'd like us to be in the "damn, wish we made moves like the Giants did" in future conversations for a change. 

And as for Manning, it's a pipe dream, but it's my pipe dream. 

Of course, I have hope every year and absolutely nothing has come of it, LOL, so what do I know? Can't wait for Thursday dude. 

It means Jones balls out this year, and somehow or the other we suck dick in 2025 - Jones gets injured maybe - and we get a high pick and swing for Manning in 2026

14 hours ago, Mr. P said:

What’s your problem?

Nothing....you just weren't making a lot of sense - thats all...

50 minutes ago, Mr. P said:

 

and I’m explaining the difference between saying that on draft night and saying it 6 years later. 

You arent explaining a thing

7 hours ago, TaylorBanksCarsonVanPelt said:

Bro... tons of those assholes would say LT.... for the sane ones they would say LDT.  I would wear my Giants gear proudly there.  Went into a cool bar and a Marine asshole said the LDT is the real LT.  Two of his Marine bros said hold up there.  I found out one was from Dallas and another from DC who had witnessed LT destroying the Broke Backs and the Washington Epithets..  It was a great scene.  I finally told him... look at some NFL film and get back to me.. It was 2000 when that happened... 24 years ago.

fuck me....2000 was 24 years ago....i feel old