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that's not an ass. that's a meeting of two legs. nice titz tho

normally i wouldn't but he's been begging for it.

haha touchy. one of those guys who hates to say he's wrong, right? next time just say what you mean and no one will be confused by your ignorance you see, saying 'leading receiver' can mean several things. most targeted, most catches, most yards. specify like i did from the start

hi dog are you a boyz fan as well? are there more of us here? is it typical that there is such a complete lack of humor or amicability here?

haha I smell bullshit gunslinger why didn't you mention yards before? I've mentioned I was talking leading in catches 3 or 4 times in this thread, and you don't specify yards until you're proven wrong. cowardly, shameful i can't talk football with a coward, sorry btw you have to take the boyz off that list. witten led in recs, austin led in yards. guffaw!!!

I did some homework gunslinger. time consuming so hope ur apprec. I only looked at the last two years because it takes so long to chk every teams leader boards. 2010 6 teams with te's leading catches. combined record 46-50 I would also include san diego. gates had more catches than anyone other than sproles. and since rb's are the true safety valve in the passing game it doesn't help your argument. one could put an asterisk on the pats and include them considering both te's combined for more catches than any single wr/rb. And that rarely happens so they should be included in my opinion. combined record w/ pats and chargers incl. 69-59 broken down thats 4 teams over 500 and 4 teams at or below. 2 and 4 resp w/o the pats and sd ofcourse. Not too damning by 2010 alone. 2009 8 teams with te's leading catches combined record 72-56 broken down thats again 4 over and 4 at/below .500 one of the losing teams btw is Tampa, who became one of the winners in 2010 with Winslow leading in recs. you tell me what the trend is. looks like to me there's two scenarios at play here. 1. teams who have elite te's use them often and without remorse, and they do it successfully most of the time. 2. teams who don't have elite te's, have to utilize the te because of poor wr/rb/qb play. these teams would not be successful throwing 100% to wr's.

I'm hoping the real Ron Mexico comes back this year.

hah no, I'm sure you know who Bavaro IS. He's still alive. I just think you were clueless that he led the team in recs. during a sb run. Ah, it's ok for you to be a douche to new members though? The point is gunslinger, not every te is the safety valve. Some are legitimate threats in their own rite. If the Gints were sporting Gates, you think he'd be Elisha's safety valve? You think he wouldn't be targeted more than Boss? If you have an elite te, and he's leading the team in recs., it's not like Boss leading the gints in recs. apples and oranges.

ok i understand. anything i say should be taken with a grain, i'm not a troll or anything It really depends on when we can get started. But as it stands, Cowboys, gints, eags, skins.

don't yah be jealous now.

yea i think i've had a little more heartache than u the last 10 years.

yah welcome

thank u joe.

Mite I suggest 'jintz in 2012' and may my brethren be more welcoming than yours have been.

Nothing wrong with that. A fluke sb victory is better than a fluke fumbled snap on a game winning fg in the playoffs. And yet there was not one "Giants in 2012" thread when I got here. Not only that but the fans here are overly sensitive, as if they're riding a long long losing streak. How do you see the East playing out next year?

haha you been hitting the wine too I used your team as an example, because it's your team. Not cause it's the last time a team was successful when a te lead in catches. You can look that shit up yourself gunslinger. You haven't been a fan long have you, I mean you were totally clueless that your team won a sb and a te lead in recs. too much gunslinger. Of the teams you listed, all but cleveland's te would be an upgrade over boss.

WR's led most every team in catches that year, I just double chkd. Sure the running game was every teams focus, but that's neither here nor there. WR were the number one target on most teams. any other psuedo facts you got for me?

There will be football. bank it. both sides too greedy to let that happen. players are just trying to shorten training camp, before they finally give in.

This is what I was looking for. Discussion. A little biased, but better than the a one-liner from a guy who didn't even know his own team history. If we have 9 weaknesses on offense, and 6 on defense we wouldn't be competetive at all. No team would. 6-10 would be a miracle. Kevin Boss might be a good te. They're a dime a dozen. Great one's are harder to come by. Boss is consistently a non-factor, with 2-3 highlights per year. So let's not get carried away. Maybe Gilbride sees him for what he is, a nonfactor. I know you didn't call me a troll, I'm saying I'm being treated like one.

Yes I'm going out on a limb and saying we win it all in 2012. Is that inflammatory to you? that's the sensitivity I'm talking about. It's a discussion starter, and don't look now, but here we are.

Isn't all talk this time of year redundant? No one's twisting your arm to read or reply to me, chap.

again, I haven't flamed anyone. You guys are seriously a bunch of assholes. I just want to have a good time talking football, when there is no football talk to be found.

You guys are so sensitive about this team, it's almost as if your team stinks and you guys are tired of hearing about it. Come on. You've got a great team, and I'm looking forward to watching them play my boyz. If you don't want to debate about it, no need to be an a-hole. It's more like this: If your front 4 can get press. = you don't need a good secondary if your front 4 don't get it = you better have a good secondary so go back and look at your storybook season. look at the games where the pressure was absent and tell me how your secondary performed.

haha is this guy real? I take it you don't remember the '86 giants? Aren't you a giants fan?

after you started getting pressure you had a 'good' secondary. Or at least what appeared statistically as a good secondary. funny how pressure can do that. Youre pass defense was the worst in the league thru the first 3 weeks, if I remember correctly, and again later in the season showed some definite weakness when the pressure wasn't there. 1. no shit? Did you hear OBL is dead? 2.refer to no. 1. so are you gonna find someone in fa or did Goff really do just fine? I doubt both would be the case. Jerry is more likely to cover our weaknesses in fa, than the tischs covering yours. Our oline won't be a problem. BTW storm, I came here to talk football. I'm not a troll, I"m not inflammatory. You guys wear your hearts on the old sleeve here don't you? If you don't want a differing viewpoint/opinion here, let me know and I'll move down the road. If you guys would rather look at the same old 4 month old posts than debating with another team's fan on a new one, I don't have a problem finding a new place to talk football.