JackStroud

C'mon Jack. Vick has a hamstring issue. And going as far as to say a team that is 2-6 is "ferocious" is just silly. I know you love your Giants but seriously. Face it. Both teams suck balls this year.

 

I'd like to see the season play out a bit more before I declare it lost

Right now we are growing stronger.........two Cancers- Wilson and Baas are removed.

 

Andre Brown is returning and our D has become dominant.

 

Lets talk again if we lose 2 more games......right now I like our chances.......two games out in a Division full of weaklings

 

did we sukk balls.......sure, but there were issues that have been addressed........once again the Giants and Philly are proving how important a consistent Franchse QB is to have or have not

Eli has no touch on the screens

When Andre returns the red zone problems will end

I like mike

Didn't like the charade to gain an NFL record

Manziel has a natural gift from God

He's practically unstoppable

What separates Manziel is his passing ability, not his running ability......he's going to be a handful

If we don't get him, I hope he winds up in the AFC

Do you really think Manziel taking the same runway as the slow footed Eli? Manziel has nerves of steel

I see him going to Tampa or Miami........or some kind of weird Jerry Jones trade down to grab him.....The Vikings are another possibility

Wilson is a great back when he gets a huge hole to run through

If he has to break tackles or find a seam or follow a blocker or block a blitzing player......he is the worst NYG RB in team history

Yes worse than Rocky Thompson

Thompson and Wilson have the same YPC around 3 and ROCKY avg 28 yds to Wilson's 26 in KR

I've actually seen Wilson fall to the ground to avoid being hit by an attacking Blitzer......I've also seen him tossed like a rag

I know a lot of you read Wilson's college stats and seen the incredible acceleration but its fools gold in a block 1st play action offense

I could see how increasingly nervous Eli got as he was hammered, had no protection and always had to complete a 3rd and long due to Wilson's many many no gains on 1st and 2nd down........Wilson also has a hard time catching a swing or screen pass and does not

Find open space to catch them........the guy is clueless

I liked 6-2 more than 2-6 but for some reason I think this team has some power in their giddyapp.......I feel better about this 2-6 team than some of those flawed 6-2 teams

Oh I forgot Quinn wont have Brett Favre to kneel at Quinn's feet for #23 LOL

Surprised to hear Favre is having memory problems.........I didn't know he got hit that much...stayed too long

Hillis has not even hit his stride.......hes not in football shape yet

the man ran for 1200 yds just a few years ago

Andre Brown is as good a back as we've had since Tiki........were loaded at RB now.........we don't need any midgets back there........let him try out for slot back if he has hands.....otherwise he is a very expensive KR in an era when most kicks cannot be returned as wasted a 1st round pick as we have ever had IMHO.

I know and Tiki is a Baaaaadd man..........this is a tough audience

Always has been

Always will be

I'll take the kid on my team any day...........and Tiki too

Not too many people liked Tiki's pronouncements (actually I think he was right on the money) It took Manning a long time to step up.

Read this whole Wikipedia and get back to me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Manziel

He's completing 80% of his passes this year and has a 180 QBR

And he's playing the best teams in the Country.......only Freshman QB ever to win the Heisman

Eli completed 60% of his passes in College with an average 138 QBR

Lets not even go to the rushing numbers

Ok Wilson is the 8th Block of Granite and he's money on 1st and 2nd downs

LOL Give me a break Nas........but thanks for the welcome

I'm feeling pretty secure that Wilson, Baas are done for the year, and I wont have to watch Ol Iron Pants try to prove that a college scat back can be a feature RB for the Giants til next year.......hopefully we win another Trophy and the Ol Goat retires

Stubbornness is Coughlin's middle name

The Giants won and a win is a win, but I don't think I'd go as far as to say that the Eagles were physically abused by a team that was unable to score a touchdown. My team was just crappier than yours was this weekend. And beyond that, a bet is a bet. I lost and am willing to pay up on my bet.

I would

The Giants D has become ferocious

McCoy and Adrian Peterson both held to 2 YPC??? No one scored on our D for 10 Qtrs

I don't know what happened but I like the trend.......Vick took himself out before he got killed

I'm not so sure

I see him as a future HOF QB........he's a young kid, he'll mature

He posses very rare talent.......sort of a Kapernick, Romo Combo

Yeah I meant to say Yankee Stadium

These were the Baby Bulls

I believe 2 of them were Tucker Fredrickson and Steve Thurlow.

The others were:

Ernie Koy

Chuck Mercein

Ernie Weelright

Smith Reed

I remember the rotation as Fredrickson, Koy and Mercein

Fredrickson hit with a ferocious impact........I remember Jim Brown saying anyone who ran that hard would get injured, and Brown proved a prophet

Fredrickson blew out his knee and was never the same

We used to have a trio long ago they called the Baby Bulls- Tucker Fredrickson and two other beefy RBs, one was Ernie Koy......I forgot the other guys name.....they played our games at Yankee Stadium then and you could scalp a ticket out on the street for $20

Those three punished people.

BJ, Hillis, Brown and Cox, and Conner........No lightweights in that group....Brown is probably the smallest but he plays downhill, and seems bigger than he is.

We went from the worst RB tandem to the best through injuries and free agents......who knew? I'd put those guys up against any 5 RBs in the league right now and would not trade even up.

Sometimes you have to go through change and hard times to sharpen your Sword.........Its Hillarious watching the best Runners in the league going up against our front 7 right now and avg 2 yds per carry.

JPP one QB pressure yesterday. Has a negative pass rush grade in 6 of 8 games this year

Yeah but he's active, and playing the run very well........for a guy just off back surgery he's remarkable........having said that I'd like to see some DeMonster in there.

^{Hey don't get me wrong....when they are in the hunt and crowing after a few wins strung together its easy to hate a few of them}

^{Jeeez can you imagine how they feel.......they run their long time decent HC out of town and what happens......he goes on an 8-0 run with the leagues worst team LOL}

NoSilverLiningsPlaybook

Sorry, after seeing that movie (twice), I cannot hate the Eagles anymore, which frees me to concentrate on The Cowboys, and 49rs

They are cursed, but give us an awful hard time despite their futility

_{I think having your team physically abused was enough punishment for you.}

_{do you think we are in any position to gloat.......were 4 games from even getting to a do-over}

_{Are we playing the best in the division right now......probably, but its a big league and being an alpha dog in the NFC East is no longer the badge of honor it once was}

_{I just got a big kick out of what happened to Dallas yesterday......what a jinxed team that is}

Jack , we have missed your in depth analysis and level, balanced mind around here ..... I knew that some ingredient had been missing recently on Sportswrath .....and now it has returned ...I feel complete

hmmmm I don't know if you are being serious or sarcastic but I missed you guys too

GMB has one sane Moderator- Roanoke and a board full of yahoos........Well YA Title is a good poster too.....and a Mod

Yeah but they beat us......that left a bad taste.

They are a handful........next time we wont be gifting them Wilson's Red Zone fumbles.

You can't hurry up 0 production Jack. 3rd string QB... Nuff said.

Yes except your 1st string QB is not a 1st string Q either.......hes a wildcat QB......you should have picked up Alex Smith or Fitzpatrick when they were available.

Quick Question- What if Johnny Manziel falls to you in the 1st round....would you want him? He scares me......he's like a Romo without the mistakes

Yeah like make him a slot receiver to back up Cruz.........I agree he looks good in space

there is no space in a regular pro set backfield......they insisted an tried an tried to fit a square peg in a round hole

obviously the rocky Thompson coaching staff had a lot more brains, and less stubbornness

I doubt Wilson will play again this year....there is no need and he risks serious permanent injury

Sorry Greed.........your team is lacking a few pieces.........what happened to that hurry up offense

no buy in by the Vets?

Why not give Hillis a few games to get in shape before declaring a slow footed gemope

His game is clean. He makes the tough yds, he blocks, he's smooth on the short passes........Connor too

Also Hillis is injury free and relatively young...........he has a 1200 yd yr under his belt

Its hard to imagine how he became available to us.

The downside is Nicks is playing like Nicks again.......I wanted to win without him and allow us to re-sign him......he's not reading the script properly.

Whats really Fnnnnn WIERD is its not even hard..........we only are 2 games behind........Wash and Philly are NO threat......and we play the Cowboys again

We get Andre Brown back next game.

Nicks woke up............I thought Cruz got hurt but like in the movie "Heaven Can Wait" after a crushing smashing, he got right back on the field after a cautionary Xray..........that's when I knew the football God's had reversed their jinx on us........then came the Miracle in Detroit......you have to believe our destiny has reversed,

It was a 5 "FG only game" in SFO that allowed us to win our 1st Lombardi if you recall.